SCV Ivy FAQ & General Discussion

SCV Patch coming on March 21st... speculations on what they've fixed for Ivy?

<Pure Speculation>
Something with her CE - maybe make it faster, hits people right after Guard Crush or GI?
Probably not making it hit mid... that would be too buff.

1B BE no longer gets free damage on block
66B BE launches on normal hit.
1K and 66K safer on block.
</Speculation>
 
Ivy will be massively buffed in the patch. More damage on her best moves, new move properties on a few, you won't be disappointed.

She will get a few nerfs but they won't really affect her much.
 
Ring said:
Ivy will be massively buffed in the patch. More damage on her best moves, new move properties on a few, you won't be disappointed.

She will get a few nerfs but they won't really affect her much.
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Is that inside knowledge?
 
I just want her close range speed boost and whip move hit box fix. give me those and I will dump my main and move right back here. I will give her Guy Fawkes mask too and take my V for Valentine online.
 
I was practicing some of her combos in training when I noticed something wierd. When I tried to do the 3[K] - 3B tech trap the launch would only send them high enough for a 6B8 when I had the counter hit setting turned on in the menu options. I always thought that a tech trap hit gave CH properties despite how the starter hit landed as long as the moves result in the same crumple or knockdown. Did they make it so you have to land the 3[K] as a CH for the 6B8 to land after the 3B or is this just the training mode's bs shenanigans again?
 
Ring said:
Ivy will be massively buffed in the patch. More damage on her best moves, new move properties on a few, you won't be disappointed.

She will get a few nerfs but they won't really affect her much.
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That's good news. Any possible changes to iCS?
 
Asodimazze said:
I reaaaaaly hope she won't get buffed too much...
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I have to agree

What I like most about Ivy in SC5 is how she cant be spammed and winning with her requires a little more planning and care, not only good reactions and instant CH punishers or simple mixups

Up until SC5 I had never even considered maining her
Xianghua will always be my SC girl, Leixia is fallback but not the same :sc2xia3:
 
One thing that I really hope gets changed are some of these nike(just do it )CE's, like xiba,hilde,maxi and a coulpe of others (though I feel those are the worst offenders).
 
I sinned again. Moved to Leixia to try out another character, and, well, ashamed to say that it actually helped my winning percentage some. But... that's not the point. The point is that I'll probably go back to Ivy again at some point, because I always do.

So I was thinking. I got some advice earlier that I should learn Ivy's CS throw in order to be any good at her. Tried that, and I really don't think I'll ever get to a point where I can put those out consistently (yes, I read through the entire CS thread to get some hints at learning it).
So is it really, like, _that_ important? I mean, it's not that damaging over a normal throw? Or is that just me. Should you really give up on Ivy if you can't master CS or not?

What about the 22_88B(just) (up to five B hits) step attack? Can someone give me some hints on getting that right? I can't find any info on it. Do you need to press the buttons like _really_ fast, or do you have any hints as to what's the 'rhythm'?
 
Vanvid said:
What about the 22_88B(just) (up to five B hits) step attack? Can someone give me some hints on getting that right? I can't find any info on it. Do you need to press the buttons like _really_ fast, or do you have any hints as to what's the 'rhythm'?
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To get the 22_88 (B) BBBBB JF you have to press buttons following a rhythm.
The best advice I can give you is pushing B everytime the whip touches the ground: I am able to get the 5 JF very often, practice and you'll get it too.
 
Vanvid said:
So I was thinking. I got some advice earlier that I should learn Ivy's CS throw in order to be any good at her. Tried that, and I really don't think I'll ever get to a point where I can put those out consistently (yes, I read through the entire CS thread to get some hints at learning it).
So is it really, like, _that_ important? I mean, it's not that damaging over a normal throw? Or is that just me. Should you really give up on Ivy if you can't master CS or not?
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Short answer, yes you should master CS. I've found its the threat of CS that really makes it effective. Since its long range and tracks both ways (it might have a short break window - have to look that up) and relatively fast (17 frames) its a great tool for limiting your opponents options. If you always buffer CS after everything, your opponent really has to be careful.

Basically if you make your opponent consider a CS coming out after anything you do, CS is doing its job. They'll start ducking and then you can 2AB them.
 
Evan said:
Short answer, yes you should master CS. I've found its the threat of CS that really makes it effective. Since its long range and tracks both ways (it might have a short break window - have to look that up) and relatively fast (17 frames) its a great tool for limiting your opponents options. If you always buffer CS after everything, your opponent really has to be careful.

Basically if you make your opponent consider a CS coming out after anything you do, CS is doing its job. They'll start ducking and then you can 2AB them.
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in theory, that's true. but i definitely wouldn't say it's at all necessary to play her well. most people fear it's existence enough for it to be effective. it is awesome- but the rest of your game with her has to be solid enough for it to be usable anyways, and once you get there, it's not really needed.
 
godspu said:
in theory, that's true. but i definitely wouldn't say it's at all necessary to play her well. most people fear it's existence enough for it to be effective. it is awesome- but the rest of your game with her has to be solid enough for it to be usable anyways, and once you get there, it's not really needed.
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If your opponent knows you can't do it, it will put a big hole on your game though. You have to be able to whip it out now and again just to remind your opponent they have to be wary of it.
 
Dunno. If you can't be sure you can execute the move correctly I guess the risk of screwing up while fumbling with the controls will leave you open for attack? That's what usually happens for me, when I try to do something fancy that I don't know for sure.
 
godspu said:
true, but there's a huge difference between "mastering it" and "whipping it out now and again"
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True, but the more places you can use it the better. If you can only do it after AB,A then you start telegraphing it.

But if you can pull CS off after a single A or B, 7B, 4B, 2AB, 4A, 6[A], so fort and so on that gives you a lot of options. And if you can demonstrate to your opponent you can do those (especially if you catch them unaware) that will get them constantly thinking that one might be coming out.
 
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