Leixia Videos & Discussion

Great matches and good to see you both playing Leixia against each other. :)

Some stuff I randomly noticed:
- you use your meter a lot better Zero, you don't miss opportunities to finish etc anymore
- remember to punish WS B with 3B and 6KK with 6KK
- since when does WS B BE guard impact stab verticals? o.O
- also you both seem to love 4A and WS K :) (and AA BE which I don't use that much now that I think of it)
- I would have used a lot more 66BB, if I were you. You backstepped so much after little pokes like 2K, you would have probably gotten a lot of counter hits, and even if Leixia steps and whiffpunishes it, it's not the end of the world.
- nice post guard burst combo after 22B with 8B+K ~ G ~ AA BE

The only thing I didn't like is that Leixia mirrors NEVER end because nobody really does damage, lol. It takes an eternity to win enough mindgames for one round. ^^
 
Kalas said:
Great matches and good to see you both playing Leixia against each other. :)

Some stuff I randomly noticed:
- you use your meter a lot better Zero, you don't miss opportunities to finish etc anymore
- remember to punish WS B with 3B and 6KK with 6KK
- since when does WS B BE guard impact stab verticals? o.O
- also you both seem to love 4A and WS K :) (and AA BE which I don't use that much now that I think of it)
- I would have used a lot more 66BB, if I were you. You backstepped so much after little pokes like 2K, you would have probably gotten a lot of counter hits, and even if Leixia steps and whiffpunishes it, it's not the end of the world.
- nice post guard burst combo after 22B with 8B+K ~ G ~ AA BE
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- I still have to work on which stuff to punish with which move, (ie: I usually go for 6KK since it always works, but it gives up dmg on stuff like WS B as you said)

- Yeah, I hit him with CH 66B 90% of the time I went for it and didn't do the 2nd B. (I really wish that move was hit confirmable, lol)

- AA (BE) is really good when you can CH confirm it. He did it better than me since I didn't think of using it much.

- WS B (BE) has the same aGI as 4A+B. Well it did prepatch... now it just does High and S low horis and stabs.

Kalas said:
The only thing I didn't like is that Leixia mirrors NEVER end because nobody really does damage, lol. It takes an eternity to win enough mindgames for one round. ^^
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LOL, yeah, after watching it again, those matches were about twice the length of a Mitsu mirror. Didn't feel like it while we were mashing it out though. Probably cause we're both aggressive players.
 
And by the way, WTF with FC 3B's garbage ass tracking? Lol, she just goes swinging in the opposite direction if the opp. leans to one side.
 
definitely fun matches. I enjoyed those matches. I totally agree w/ the fc 3b whiffing :(. it makes life tough. I like doing aa BE since at the end if it hits you're even so lei can usually win if we both press buttons, which I like to do. I think I need to learn to break better, rarely had you in the red during those matches if I remember right.
 
MTfighter said:
definitely fun matches. I enjoyed those matches. I totally agree w/ the fc 3b whiffing :(. it makes life tough. I like doing aa BE since at the end if it hits you're even so lei can usually win if we both press buttons, which I like to do. I think I need to learn to break better, rarely had you in the red during those matches if I remember right.
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Nah, I think I was only in red maybe once every 6 fights. Maybe use 4B or something.
 
Still working towards NEC 13. Here's a few select games against my offline friends from the Philly/South Jersey crew. Mostly recorded these for myself for analyzing, but some good stuff was in there. Not highest quality, but should at least be watchable enough. Lots of... blue in the first two vids though, heh.

Zero vs Sporko(Voldo) 1 (Bibulus in BG playing Magic online)

Zero vs Sporko(Voldo) 2 (See 1:50 for Air GI in action)

Zero vs 350z(Ivy) 1 (That CS...)

Zero vs 350z(Ivy) 2 (I know I was mashing B, but...)
 
I played a 28-game set with m216 Samshoking, a good Hilde player I see often in the 24/7 stream lobby. I uploaded replays of six of those games; three of me winning and three of him winning. I went 12-16 against him, but if would have been worse if he hadn't treated me as if I can JG. I wonder if I should post these vids in the Hilde matchup thread too. It seems like a pretty bad matchup.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_iI2KUM3Q-qKlSSQNiVEWrMP2WioQ8Lo
 
TiZ said:
I played a 28-game set with m216 Samshoking, a good Hilde player I see often in the 24/7 stream lobby. I uploaded replays of six of those games; three of me winning and three of him winning. I went 12-16 against him, but if would have been worse if he hadn't treated me as if I can JG. I wonder if I should post these vids in the Hilde matchup thread too. It seems like a pretty bad matchup.
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Watched the matches, and uh... didn't see you doing much wrong really. You do need to JG or at least GI her BE strings though. I liked your use of backstep 3B to punish 2As and such.

As for the matchup? I wouldn't say it's a terrible one, but it's likely in Hilde's favor just because of Leixia's fundemental flaws. Hilde has range and does a good amount of damage; specifically off of 22B whiff punishes. She can poke pretty effectively from range, but her stepkillers only work from Leixia's poke range. If you're at frame advantage, use more kicks or lows to discourage her 3A aGI use from time to time.
 
A couple matches from NEC. There were a few technical difficulties earlier in the day, so unfortunately none of the early pools were streamed. Thankfully, Malice was able to record these two fights for me.

Pool D WF - vs Ramon(Pyrrha)

Pool D LF - vs. Sandman(Siegfried) *This was a runback, since I put him in losers.
 
That was some solid play in the set against Ramon. You missed a lot of opportunities when you have 75%+ meter and could've taken a CE though, which hurt you in the long run.

TiZ said:
I played a 28-game set with m216 Samshoking, a good Hilde player I see often in the 24/7 stream lobby. I uploaded replays of six of those games; three of me winning and three of him winning. I went 12-16 against him, but if would have been worse if he hadn't treated me as if I can JG. I wonder if I should post these vids in the Hilde matchup thread too. It seems like a pretty bad matchup.
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If he does C3A on block Leixia doesn't have to JG because of 4A+B.

A big thing you could've done more of is wait for him to freeze up and throw him while he's stacking charges. Hilde can't break the respective throw break while charging it, so that's free damage and it makes him more likely to start twitch ducking. Also keep in mind that when a Hilde player is charging A, he's going to try to dump that charge at the first opportunity to do so because if it reaches level 3 it becomes extremely risky.

A lot of his sidestep went unpunished in that set. It doesn't hurt to guess with 4K as it'll either kill step for decent damage* or allow you to continue your offense with AA/2A/44B/whore twirl/other nonsense.
*for an i15 -2 on block move, especially if you take the CE

As for spacing against Hilde, you want to stay out of the mid ranges where her 22B/C3B/CE whiff punishes are most effective and where she can freely charge C2A to use as an approach tool. In her face or outer space are the best ranges to be at. Shutting down C1A and C2A pressure is also very important, as they are two of her best moves. Due to the way her charge mechanic functions, the timings on the C1 and C2 moves are very predictable and thus susceptible to OS JG.

All of these are minor in comparison to the main problem you seem to be having though, which is that you just aren't playing responsively. Playing off the most common responses people make in certain situations is a solid foundation to work from, but there's more to it than that. You have a tendency to always attack on approach, even at ranges where the opponent's movement makes running up and blocking the most safe and reliable tactic. This is the main reason you tend to struggle against characters with good zoning tools (Xiba's everything, Siegfried's everything, Cervantes aB and backdash, Mitsurugi 4B and 663K, Hilde 22B and 66K).
The other big mistake you were making is not punishing whiffs. Whiffing is the biggest mistake the opponent can make and it's something you have to take advantage of. You've obtained a good sense of how to make the opponent whiff through smart use of movement. You just need to start capitalizing on it for max damage and watching their health melt away.
 
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