Soulcalibur VI DLC Discussion Thread

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We need a barbarian female instead of Rock

@Nyte can she be small and skinny or does she need to be big like Rock
 
Rusted Blade said:
Waifus meaning what? Women?
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Waifu is a term used between fans of anime and Japanese manga. This term comes from a Japanese adaptation of the word "wife", and is used by fans to refer to a female character that he likes very much.
The male version of a Waifu is a husbando, a word formed by a husband.
 
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LisaK said:
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Waifu is a term used between fans of anime and Japanese manga. This term comes from a Japanese adaptation of the word "wife", and is used by fans to refer to a female character that he likes very much.
The male version of a Waifu is a husbando, a word formed by a husband.
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LOL, thank you Lisa, but I do know what a waifu is. This isn't my first day on the internet. :) The point of my comment was that the criteria being used in this instance seems to be "all female" characters--as has become increasingly commonly the case anytime that word comes up on these boards (and for all I know, most similar forums). I agree with ElegantRaven on this one; if the word is just going to be used scattershot to describe all female characters, then it's starting become something like a slur against the gender, rather than having it's usual more specific meaning. I might not have jumped straight to "vitriolic" like ER...but I'm also not saying she's wrong..

Maxxus said:
female chars are awesome however abuse is ridiculous.
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What exactly do you mean by "abuse"? Once the season pass finishes, female characters will be roughly 40% of the roster, and this will go down further with a second season. What strikes you as a reasonable proportion of female characters?
 
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Rusted Blade said:
LOL, thank you Lisa, but I do know what a waifu is. This isn't my first day on the internet. :) The point of my comment was that the criteria being used in this instance seems to be "all female" characters--as has become increasingly commonly the case anytime that word comes up on these boards (and for all I know, most similar forums). I agree with ElegantRaven on this one; if the word is just going to be used scattershot to describe all female characters, then it's starting become something like a slur against the gender, rather than having it's usual more specific meaning. I might not have jumped straight to "vitriolic" like ER...but I'm also not saying she's wrong..
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Hey, just letting you know I identify as gender neutral but the "she" pronoun doesn't actually apply to me, I'm male :p I can understand the mix up though considering my icon, I'm gay lol

Anyway, the reason I jumped straight to that word is because Norik has been using this argument every time he's involved in DLC character discussion. It's an incredibly weak and irritating talking point and comes off as really dismissive towards the idea of female characters in muh video games. I hesitate to call it sexist, but at the very least it is taking a small part of what makes female characters popular in the SC fanbase and applying it to all facets of said fanbase. I mean, are we really going to take a character like Setsuka, who is innovative and unique even compared to a lot of the pre-SC3 cast, and just slap the label of "waifu" on her as if she deserves no better, and then use that dismissive label to lump her into the argument of "ew no more waifus" in favour of advocating for bland male characters like Rock or Hwang? (I actually do like Hwang, but trying to be objective here.)
tl;dr: It's just a really toxic talking point, and comes off as slightly sexist even if that's not the intent.
 
Rusted Blade said:
if the word is just going to be used scattershot to describe all female characters, then it's starting become something like a slur against the gender
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Please stop, this makes you sound completely out of touch with meme culture and puts a huge negative spin on something that's a form of endearment and brightens up people's day. If you don't get it you don't get it, just don't be a busybody.
 
ElegantRaven said:
Hey, just letting you know I identify as gender neutral but the "she" pronoun doesn't actually apply to me, I'm male :p I can understand the mix up though considering my icon, I'm gay lol
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Oh, ok--noted.

ElegantRaven said:
It's an incredibly weak and irritating talking point and comes off as really dismissive towards the idea of female characters in muh video games. I hesitate to call it sexist...tl;dr: It's just a really toxic talking point, and comes off as slightly sexist even if that's not the intent.
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Oh, I was definitely thinking that the word, when used in that way, is misogynistic, before I saw your post. I didn't mean to suggest otherwise--but I know these boards well enough to know what comes after you describe a gender issue in those terms here, so you can handle that hand-grenade yourself. :D

sytus said:
Please stop, this makes you sound completely out of touch with meme culture and puts a huge negative spin on something that's a form of endearment and brightens up people's day. If you don't get it you don't get it, just don't be a busybody.
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Respectfully Sytus, you don't seem to have remotely tracked the meaning of my comments, so please go back and re-read before you ask me to "please stop". Using the term waifu may be a pretty harmless description of a social phenomena as it is usually applied, but the use that ER and I are pointing out here is a different meaning altogether. It's the "all women=automatically waifu" line, which is not just a) a person being extremely histrionic about the idea that female characters can be compelling in their own right, but also b) is a direct insult to every individual who ever supports a female character, regardless of the circumstances--it's an attempt to seize the high ground by creating a narrative for why anyone might want any such character--i.e., they can only be a crazed otaku. Like that's literally the only case to ever want a female character. In other words, an ad hominem--a logical fallacy, a non-argument that tars all opponents with the same feather without actually reaching to the merits of the question. ER is correct, that is toxic and not just with regard to the very idea of more women being in the game, but also towards a majority of fans who have no problem with plenty of female characters, who are just being drive-by insulted by the way the word is being used here.
 
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sytus said:
Please stop, this makes you sound completely out of touch with meme culture and puts a huge negative spin on something that's a form of endearment and brightens up people's day. If you don't get it you don't get it, just don't be a busybody.
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...The original usage of the word in this discussion was clearly not being used in this context though. Let's disregard "meme culture" for a sec and just acknowledge that it was used as a way to dismiss female characters? Not that hard.
 
Anyone know if Amy's SC4 outfit will come in pieces, or an everything outfit like 2B's?

Also if there is a barbarian female she should be buff like Rock. Honestly that'd be really cool, and make the most sense. But that's just my opinion.
 
Kyoju_Saru said:
Anyone know if Amy's SC4 outfit will come in pieces, or an everything outfit like 2B's?
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Theoretically, it should be broken up just the same as it was in SoulCalibur IV. I can't really come up with any reasonable justification for why it would be any different. So it should be four parts: Lace (neck), Dress (mid body), Socks (...socks), and Boots (feet).
 
Norik said:
Hell no we don't need more waifus.
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When the game has more than 50% women, THEN you can complain there's too many, not before. I'm not saying the game needs a 50/50 split, is not necessary, but as long as women are below 50% saying there are too many to add another is simply being a jerk to everyone who likes women characters. Is neither inclusive, nor productive.

How about no more Husbano's we have enough, hell another three were added this game, one guest and two real characters. As for women, we gained one guest, and have no where near 50%, so shove off bitching about too many womens, are you 7 and afraid of digital cooties or something?
 
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Heniek said:
I would totally go for a barbarian girl character. Even tho I still would preffer Rock that is perhaps the only replacement I could personally go for
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Maybe Bangoo's mother was a badass Native American woman and she can show up seeking her son.

She can use two tamahawks, borrow several of Aeon's soul calibur five moves minus the more animal and dragony stuff, instead replacing it with throwing the tamahawks as throwing weapons.

Her name could be Chooli a female Navajo name that means mountain.

If they feel like adding a more supernatural bent to some of her powers she could gain a translucent aura of various american animals like a bear, wolf, mountain lion, eagle ect while using some of her moves with accompanying animal noise.

For example instead of Aeon's flight and dragon breath there could be an eagle shriek as she takes to the air surrounded by a translucent eagle aura and reigns down a bombardment of tamahawks.

Would be kind of like a Native American version of Vixen.

Actually while doing the aura thing she could even keep some of Aeon's more animalistic moves.

Damnit I've sold myself, now I really wish this was a real character.
 
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I thought Rock was a white man that somehow ended up in America and ended up either adopting a native american or having a half native american child?

Even IF the parents of said child are 'dead' it could always be a presumed dead situation. I dunno maybe I have the whole Rock/bangoo situation all wrong.
 
Thylacine492 said:
Sorry, I misread your post, thank you for the correction. And yes, lore wise Bangor is an orphan.
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Orphan is fine as it leaves questions which can have unexpected answers. Hell Chooli could be a long lost older sister seeking her brother Bangoo. Or as I said, maybe the mother was presumed dead.
 
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