So let me get this straight: Nightmare/Siegfried 's flapjack ring out gets nerfed while ivy can still ring out with 2 A+G that is a much safer move?
What a load of bullshit.
Maybe I did not explain myself well (english is not my first language), what I'm trying to say is that that move has a area where it gets you and I believe that area is too big right now, @syntus even said that there are two areas
since I've gotten into E rank I've been matched with Ivy basically 80% of the time, it's insane, fortunately all this matches helped me learn how to punish most of the common moves with Nightmare, but yes the main strategy remains to get as close as possible.
EDIT: about the 2A+G throw I think...