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franman
[13] Hero
There is iGDR listed, aside from that there are only 2 moves that require just frame input upon successful hit: they are 214K B(during hit):B(just) and 1A:B(just).
Cervantes Moveset compilation & data
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docvizzo
[14] Master
4K and 4KK also need JF to get BT B+K. And for 1B+K Cancel the window is quite big...not really a JF.
Silent Joel
[12] Conqueror
WR B+K is a disgusting 80 damage. I've ducked throws and landed it but you have to be well quick.
docvizzo
[14] Master
Yo Where is the FD? Noboydy with the Guide?
Impact, block, hit, counter hit
Horizontal Attacks:
A: i13, -8, 2, 2
AA: i13, -6, 6, 6
aB: i11, -18, -4, -4
6A: i15, -2
3A: i15, -16, kd, kd
2A: i14, -6, 8, 8
1A: i17, -22, -12, -12
1AB: i17, -24, -6, stun
4A: i29, -3, kd, kd
4aB: i35, -16, stun, stun
4aBB: i35, -16, 2, 2
FC A: i13, -6, 8, 8
ws A: i18, -14, 2, 2
ws AB: i18, -15, kd, kd
Vertical Attacks:
B: i16, -14, -6, -6
BB: i16, -13, -3, -3
BBB: i16, -16, kd, kd
bA: i18, -15, stun, stun NOTE: up to -15 if the attack is an A. If its a B or a kick he auto GIs after his -13 until -16. Weird thing is he aut GIs Sieg's b6 but gets counter hit by NM's 6B, both i16.
bK: i26, 1, kd, kd
b2: i14, -8, -2, -2
6B: i19, -12, 8, 8
6BB: i19, -14, kd, kd
3B: i20, -13, kd, kd
2B: i16, -8, 2, 2
1B: i20, -13, -3, -3
1BB: i20, -12, kd, kd
4B: i15, -13, -3, -3
4BK: i15, -14, kd, kd
FC B: i15, -8, 2, 2
ws B: i18, -12, kd, kd
Kicks:
K: i13, -8, 2, 2
6K: i13, -16, 0, 0
3K: i15, -4, 6, 6
2K: i15, -14, -2, -2
1K: i29, -21, kd, kd
4K: i15, -10, 2, 2
4KK: i15, -12, 0, 0
FC K: i14, -14, 2, 2
ws K: i14, -12, 6, 6
Simultaneous press moves:
A+B: i3, 12 active
6A+B: i27, -8, kd, kd
3A+B: i21, -16, stun ,stun
2A+B: i19, -11, stun, stun
4A+B: ??, -21, kd, kd note: evades >=i14 moves
8A+B: i27
ws A+B: i20, -16, kd, kd
B+K: i3, 12 active
2B+K: i21, -15, kd, kd
2(B+K): i36, -15, kd, kd
2(B+K)seismo: i36, -10, 21, 21
4B+K: i23, -14, 6, 6
9B+K: i34, -12, kd, kd
ws B+K: ??, at least -44
8-way run moves:
66A: i19, -12, kd, kd
33/99A: i40, -12, kd, kd
22/88A: i35, -17??, -6, -6
44/11/77A: i30, -6, kd, kd
66B: i17, -14, kd, kd
33/99B: i40, -3, kd, kd
22/88B: i35, -12, kd, kd
11/77B: >i60, -20, 4, kd
44B: i25, -16, kd, kd
66K: i17, -6, 4, 4
33/99K: i17, -6, 4, kd
22/88K: i34, -10, 6, kd
11/77K: i35, -16, 4, 4
44K: i25, -5, kd, kd
44A+B: i44, -12, kd, kd
Special Stance:
iGDR: i17, -21, kd, kd
DC A: ?, 10, kd, kd
DC B: ?, -16, kd, kd
DC K: ?, -22, kd, kd
DC B+K: ?, -9, kd, kd
Edge Attacks:
236236A+B+K:
6bA+B+K: i19, -16, kd, kd
4bA+B+K: i21
22/88aA+B+K: ?, 13, kd, kd
ws a+bA+B+K: i20, 13, kd, kd
Jumping attacks
9A: i25, -2
9B: i33, -12, 4, 4
9K: i21, -8, 2, 2
not sure if 4A+B is supposed to GI moves but it evades from i14 and on
11/22/33/77/88/99 include the +10 frames from the silly step.
Will be correcting any mistakes as soon as i find any.
Best data out of Sieg, Maxi, NM so far. YARRRRR
Horizontal Attacks:
A: i13, -8, 2, 2
AA: i13, -6, 6, 6
aB: i11, -18, -4, -4
6A: i15, -2
3A: i15, -16, kd, kd
2A: i14, -6, 8, 8
1A: i17, -22, -12, -12
1AB: i17, -24, -6, stun
4A: i29, -3, kd, kd
4aB: i35, -16, stun, stun
4aBB: i35, -16, 2, 2
FC A: i13, -6, 8, 8
ws A: i18, -14, 2, 2
ws AB: i18, -15, kd, kd
Vertical Attacks:
B: i16, -14, -6, -6
BB: i16, -13, -3, -3
BBB: i16, -16, kd, kd
bA: i18, -15, stun, stun NOTE: up to -15 if the attack is an A. If its a B or a kick he auto GIs after his -13 until -16. Weird thing is he aut GIs Sieg's b6 but gets counter hit by NM's 6B, both i16.
bK: i26, 1, kd, kd
b2: i14, -8, -2, -2
6B: i19, -12, 8, 8
6BB: i19, -14, kd, kd
3B: i20, -13, kd, kd
2B: i16, -8, 2, 2
1B: i20, -13, -3, -3
1BB: i20, -12, kd, kd
4B: i15, -13, -3, -3
4BK: i15, -14, kd, kd
FC B: i15, -8, 2, 2
ws B: i18, -12, kd, kd
Kicks:
K: i13, -8, 2, 2
6K: i13, -16, 0, 0
3K: i15, -4, 6, 6
2K: i15, -14, -2, -2
1K: i29, -21, kd, kd
4K: i15, -10, 2, 2
4KK: i15, -12, 0, 0
FC K: i14, -14, 2, 2
ws K: i14, -12, 6, 6
Simultaneous press moves:
A+B: i3, 12 active
6A+B: i27, -8, kd, kd
3A+B: i21, -16, stun ,stun
2A+B: i19, -11, stun, stun
4A+B: ??, -21, kd, kd note: evades >=i14 moves
8A+B: i27
ws A+B: i20, -16, kd, kd
B+K: i3, 12 active
2B+K: i21, -15, kd, kd
2(B+K): i36, -15, kd, kd
2(B+K)seismo: i36, -10, 21, 21
4B+K: i23, -14, 6, 6
9B+K: i34, -12, kd, kd
ws B+K: ??, at least -44
8-way run moves:
66A: i19, -12, kd, kd
33/99A: i40, -12, kd, kd
22/88A: i35, -17??, -6, -6
44/11/77A: i30, -6, kd, kd
66B: i17, -14, kd, kd
33/99B: i40, -3, kd, kd
22/88B: i35, -12, kd, kd
11/77B: >i60, -20, 4, kd
44B: i25, -16, kd, kd
66K: i17, -6, 4, 4
33/99K: i17, -6, 4, kd
22/88K: i34, -10, 6, kd
11/77K: i35, -16, 4, 4
44K: i25, -5, kd, kd
44A+B: i44, -12, kd, kd
Special Stance:
iGDR: i17, -21, kd, kd
DC A: ?, 10, kd, kd
DC B: ?, -16, kd, kd
DC K: ?, -22, kd, kd
DC B+K: ?, -9, kd, kd
Edge Attacks:
236236A+B+K:
6bA+B+K: i19, -16, kd, kd
4bA+B+K: i21
22/88aA+B+K: ?, 13, kd, kd
ws a+bA+B+K: i20, 13, kd, kd
Jumping attacks
9A: i25, -2
9B: i33, -12, 4, 4
9K: i21, -8, 2, 2
not sure if 4A+B is supposed to GI moves but it evades from i14 and on
11/22/33/77/88/99 include the +10 frames from the silly step.
Will be correcting any mistakes as soon as i find any.
Best data out of Sieg, Maxi, NM so far. YARRRRR
sephalump
Video games kill people
I have the guide if you guys want the frame data but I might have to wait until tomorrow. It's just before 3 here and I kind of want to crash for the night.
docvizzo
[14] Master
Yes PLEASE all Frame Data of the guide! Important tournament on 25.2 and i need FD soon....
docvizzo
[14] Master
Yo this is Cervantes Arena :) Your list isnt Cervantes at all :P
docvizzo
[14] Master
Oh and btw i asked dagotth (Guide Writer) , a Quickstep adds exactly 10 Frames when bufferd...so Astas 66K is i18, his 33K is i28 when buffered. Guess that will help you for further testings.
WingedPirate
[09] Warrior
It would be way better then a manually calculated frame sheet lol. Please post. Imma go get me a fucking guide now... Man but where are they ?
Oops I misread! It is indeed as awesome as I suspected XD
sephalump
Video games kill people
I had just gone to wal-mart, but they didn't have one so I just went to the game stop a couple stores down the strip. They happened to have collectors edition guides still in stock so I ended up getting probably the single best written and single best looking guide book I've ever gotten.
That said here goes. For the most part from what I can tell frames are the same on NH and CH so I'm not going to divide the results on different types of hit, I'll just make a separates with "/" when there is one. I'll also be listing all the moves in their complete form( so "AA" or "BBB") and just separating the separate hits on block with a semi colon. The book is very comprehensive but is missing some things like partially completed strings so we'll need to test for them. However I can't get on my system today to finish the list =\. It'll look something like this
Attack Command
Impact Frames
Frames on block
Effect on hit
AA
i13
?;-6
+3;+6
aB
i11
-18
-6
6A
i15
-2
+8
3A
i16
-15
Crumple Stun
2A
i14
-8
+8
1A:B
i17
-24
?;-6/ CH Grounded Stun
4A
i29
-3
Knockdown
4aBB
i36
-16
Stun; +2
FC A
i13
-6
+8
WR AB
i18
?;-15
?;Knockdown
Jump A
i25
-2
8
BT A
i16
-6
+6
BT 2A
i17
-6
+8
That said here goes. For the most part from what I can tell frames are the same on NH and CH so I'm not going to divide the results on different types of hit, I'll just make a separates with "/" when there is one. I'll also be listing all the moves in their complete form( so "AA" or "BBB") and just separating the separate hits on block with a semi colon. The book is very comprehensive but is missing some things like partially completed strings so we'll need to test for them. However I can't get on my system today to finish the list =\. It'll look something like this
Attack Command
Impact Frames
Frames on block
Effect on hit
AA
i13
?;-6
+3;+6
aB
i11
-18
-6
6A
i15
-2
+8
3A
i16
-15
Crumple Stun
2A
i14
-8
+8
1A:B
i17
-24
?;-6/ CH Grounded Stun
4A
i29
-3
Knockdown
4aBB
i36
-16
Stun; +2
FC A
i13
-6
+8
WR AB
i18
?;-15
?;Knockdown
Jump A
i25
-2
8
BT A
i16
-6
+6
BT 2A
i17
-6
+8
Verticals
BBB
i16
?;?;-16
?;?;Knockdown
bA
i18
-16
Stun(will have to test advantage off it)
b2
i16
-8
+2
2B
i16
-8
+2
6BB
i19
?;-14
?/Knockdown
3B
i19
-14
Launch
1BB
i20
?;-12
?;Knockdown
4BK
i15
?;-14
?;Knockdown
FC B
i15
-8
+2
WR B
i20
-12
Launch
Jump B
i33
-12
+8
BT B
i16
-6
+4
BT 2B
i17
-8
+2
Kicks
K
i13
-8
+2
6K
i13
-16
0(maybe more on CH will test once I can)
3K
i15
-4
6
2K
i15
-14
-2
1K
i29
i22
Knockdown
4KK
i15
?;-12
?;0
FC K
i14
-14
-2
WR K
i14
-2
+6
Jumping K
i21
-8
+2
BT K
i17
-6
+2
BT 2K
i16
-14
+2
Simultaneous Press
A+B
?(until active frames)
?(on whiff until recovery)
Knockdown(on successful GI)
6A+B
i27
-8
Stun
3A+B
i22
-16
Stun
2A+B
i19
-11
Knockdown/ CH Launch
8A+B
i27
-3(forced transition into DC, this is just how many frames before you can use a DC attack)
Launch
4A+B
i60
-20
Launch
B+K
?(until active frames)
?(until recovery on whiff)
Knockdown(on successful GI)
6B+K
i50
Unblockable
Knockdown
2B+K
i21
-15
Knockdown
2(B+K)
i36
-15
Knockdown; Low Quake Stun(will have to test for frames)
1B+K
i70
Unblockable
Launch
9B+K
i35
-14
Stun
9(B+K)
i35
-14
Stun
4B+K
i24
-14
+6
WS A+B
i20
-16
Stun
WS B+K
i24
-58
Launch
BT B+K
i16
-4
Stun
8-Way Run Attacks
66A
i19
-12
Knockdown
33_99A
i28
-12
Knockdown
22AA
i24
?;-15
?;Knockdown
66B
i17
-14
? far hit without the attack throw; Knockdown close hit with the attack throw
33_99B
i27
-3
Knockdown
22_88B
i24
-12
Stun
22_88(B)
i62
Unblockable
Stun
11_77B
i27
-20
+4/ CH Knockdown
44B
i25
-16
Knockdown
33_66_99K
i17
-6
+4/ CH knockdown 33_99K
22_88K
i24
-10
+6
11_77K
i24
-16
+4
44K
i25
-5
Knockdown
44A+B
i43
-12
Launch
44(A+B)
i55
Unblockable
Launch
Running K
i21
-22
Knockdown
All Cervantes' throws are 17 frames with 13 frame break windows(Including BE a+g =\)
Dread Charge Stance
214:B(iGDR/ GDRC)
i17
-21
Launch
DC A
i55
+11
Knockdown
DC B(can be "steered" with 2B_8B)
i38
Launch
?(unsafe that's for sure)
DC K: B: B
i53
?;?;Unblockable
DC B+K
i81
?
Knockdown
DC (B+K)
i83
?
Knockdown
DC 6
Cancels stance quickly with a fast large step forward
Brave Edge
6bA+B+K
i19
-16
Launch
4bA+B+K
i21
+8
Launch
WR a+bA+B+K
i20
+12
Stun
22_88aA+B+K
+12
Stun
a+gA+B+K
See above
236236A+B+K
i10
Unblockable
Knockdown
Again it isn't everything but hopefully it answers some questions and gives you what you need to find others through testing. I can test tomorrow too, just someone else I'm living with has a monopoly of the TV today.
sephalump
Video games kill people
I got the results from the Soul Calibur 5 guide book that's advertised on the front page.
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