Hilde Combo discussion

C4B is Clean Hit level A

Ideally you'd want C4B, W!, C4A, W!, C1A, W!, 6AKB, CE, 66A+B
not that I've tested that it works, but that would more than likely be fatal.
 
This is a well known combo and in no way can be considered a doom combo. merging with combo discussion.
 
This combo scales wayyyyyyy to hard.....
The only time i use 3b be is after 22b v2b cause itll ro
 
You can not air control it for one, they were pulling shit out of their ass since they just can't pull it off more than likely, but for one, 88/22B is a hard move to land consistently unless you guess right and force a whiff to do it, and the combo itself uses 75% of her total meter, which to be perfectly honest doesn't matter too much since Hilde doesn't actually use meter normally.
Whilst you are right that this is a damaging option for her, using up 3/4 of her meter gauge for only marginal gain after each rep does not seem to be very worth it.
You would be better off only doing the 3B BE once since chances are you will have spare meter for it anyway, but you have to take into account that her CE is essentially a 95 damage, long ranged Pyrrah Omega Stab. The other thing you must take into account with her CE is that it can't be stepped outside of close range since it tracks and it breaks guard in 10, so if they're flashing red(and have blocked something significant since being red), are at mid-tip range and you have 1 meter, her CE becomes all kinds of godly.
 
Ok sorry i didnt see the repost, cool combo can be done. The good thing about it is you build alot of meter while you do it. So i might use 75% meter but i gain 25% meter during the combo. You can start the loop from 4 things hold A+B(counter hit),8wayB,66B+abk,2CB. so you are not limited to just 8wayB. If you only do one 3B+abk you max out around 125(8wayB-2CB-3B+abk-B+K-C2B). When you do the loop you can get up to 160 and maybe more depending in clean hits. So 2 advantages are you build alot of bar during the combo and since you combo for so long you increase chance of clean hits to happen in the combo.

ceirnian- honestly when i tell people about it no one beleives me, so i figured it wasnt well known. I am not saying its on the level of the old doom combo, but when i say doom combo i mean its the combo that took the old ones place. I gota look through this thread i havent yet:)

EDIT- also when you start the combo from 8wayB it scales alot, but if you start its from one of those other 3 things it doesnt. So in the case 8wayB it doesnt seem worth it. But if you hit with one of those other things you pretty much double your damage with the loop.
 
ok read some of this, wish i had this video of the doom combo to show people in chat lol......

Everyone is talking about B+K, saying its easier after counter hit a+b(hold). This happens because for some reason when you hit with A+B hold-C2b- the opponent stays stunned for a small period of time after they touch the ground. So you can actully wait till they hit the ground and press B+K and the animation will always happen. To get B+K animation all you have to do is hit with b+k right as they touch the ground. Its just harder after something like 8wayB-C2B because you dont get that extra little bit of ground stun you have with A+B hold-c2B , idk why it is this way but it is. I think when you go for b+k after moves that arent a+b hold, its a 1 frame. thats why its so hard. I can do it about 50% of the time. After A+B hold i am almost like 80%.
 
pharaoh03 said:
Is she? I'd like to know if shes even considered low tier before I learn her....i learned Zwei not knowing he was low tier
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Niether Viola, Zweir or Hilde are low tier, no chance in hell. Have you seen Kerrigan using Zwei? people, mostly french players, tend to say any given character is low tier just cause they don't really know the character. In this game the only low is Siegfried.
 
I haven't. theres a whole zwei thread that got locked cus it's full of reasons why zwei is low tier. unless you've played tons of games with zwei u can't really say he's not low. not to argue about that. there is a hilde player on top 10 ranked XBL leaderboards so that gives me hope that she isn't low
 
pharaoh03 said:
I haven't. theres a whole zwei thread that got locked cus it's full of reasons why zwei is low tier. unless you've played tons of games with zwei u can't really say he's not low. not to argue about that. there is a hilde player on top 10 ranked XBL leaderboards so that gives me hope that she isn't low
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If you are basing your reasoning on online players you are doing it wrong.
 
pharaoh03 said:
I'm not "basing" it on online players. how ironic, you're the one that just tried to validate Zwei with an online player.
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Kerrigan ONLINE PLAYER??? u serious?. She is the second best player in Germany, learn a little before responding, she does not even play online...at all.
 
Lol really funny kerrigan is being brought up cause last night i was telling enkindu that this chick kerrigan has a sick zwei. I have only seen her use zwei vs voldo's. So i was telling enkindu that i think zwei is good vs voldo. Also kerrigan and her to brothers helped write the official sc5 guide, so they are like 6 monthes ahead of everyone.

EDIT- dont fight guys, sounds like a misunderstanding. No tiers can be official yet, no one has master'd JG. Who knows how easy zwei is to JG or how much he can abuse it. Or maybe even some glitch we dont know about that could help zwei.

Its easy for scrubs to say hilde is low because they dont understand how well she can combo. And that was my whole piont. So dont just run to conclusions because most people think something..... Everyone thought ivy sucked till acouple weeks ago, everyone thinks natsu is top tier and week 1 people where saying nightmare was OP......lol classic
 
m216xlegendx said:
Lol really funny kerrigan is being brought up cause last night i was telling enkindu that this chick kerrigan has a sick zwei. I have only seen her use zwei vs voldo's. So i was telling enkindu that i think zwei is good vs voldo. Also kerrigan and her to brothers helped write the official sc5 guide, so they are like 6 monthes ahead of everyone.
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So Glad to see someone with knowledge.
 
Hilde would be considered "low tier" in the fact that compared to other characters, it is harder to Win with her than it is other characters due to a lack of things that high tiers may have.
Such as: -
- Multi-function tools - She does have a Tech Jump, Tech crouch low attack, but not one that is easily thrown out.
- Excellent punishing options without meter. Her best punisher is her CE at i16. Failing that you have 66B BE for half bar at i18.
- A good interrupt. 2A and AA are not really that threatening, and 3[A]'s GI is awkward to use outside of strings.
- Threatening Low attacks - Her lows are solid, but not very threatening.

However, that's just what people say about her, not my personal opinion.
 
Runis said:
Hilde would be considered "low tier" in the fact that compared to other characters, it is harder to Win with her than it is other characters due to a lack of things that high tiers may have.
Such as: -
- Multi-function tools - She does have a Tech Jump, Tech crouch low attack, but not one that is easily thrown out.
- Excellent punishing options without meter. Her best punisher is her CE at i16. Failing that you have 66B BE for half bar at i18.
- A good interrupt. 2A and AA are not really that threatening, and 3[A]'s GI is awkward to use outside of strings.
- Threatening Low attacks - Her lows are solid, but not very threatening.

However, that's just what people say about her, not my personal opinion.
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Agree with that, but being harder to use does not necessarily means, being low tier. I checked and in the french tier list she is listed as B along with
Algol, Patroclus, Pyrrha, Nightmare, Tira, Yoshimitsu, Voldo, Maxi​
 
Zwei is the lowest of low tier him aeon and raph are garbage. You guys got gimmicked the fuck out.
Algol in the same tier as maxi?k
hilde is VERY GOOD imo
 
Azazel said:
Kerrigan ONLINE PLAYER??? u serious?. She is the second best player in Germany, learn a little before responding, she does not even play online...at all.
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learn a little? you can't expect people to know "the top players from this country and that country". And you're still basing your reasoning on a player, and an exceptional player at that.
 
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