If i see one more....(thread)

It seems that the less damage dealing characters have more advantage online being overly aggressive. However, when I play Sieg properly, one hit and I can completely reverse it on them.

4K ftw!

Seriously though, its annoying getting attacked by fast mixups, with button delay trying to block the lows, if you start blocking low, then you get launched.

Aaarggghhh!
 
You guys all have solid rationale with the dealings of this humble rant. But, what exactly is to blame the repetition of the end-user or the idiocy on your part for falling for the same thing?

Simplicity is key in fighting games, I think they call it BnB(Bread and Butter) If you are subject to sitting there thinking to much about what to do if a player does some move again and playing defensive which is a play style, like it's alternate, that has pro's and con's. I play very very very offensive, but I am defensive in the same turn while im being offensive.But I've never ever, even online fell for someone who plays in repetition. You just are to lazy to adjust thus are you really fit to call yourself Soul Calibur hardcore enthusiast ? Unlikely.

I love when people stand still and block, toggling between blocking high and low until they see an opening. He who hesitate in war has already lost. I play a guy named Offbeatninja he is just as agressive with Seig as I am with Amy thus we both never have edge over the other. You cant be some sort of static player at any point of time, especially when your opponent is being static --- I can honestly tell you guys, If i see a player falling for the same thing , being to lazy or incompetent to block or take evasive action I will continue to do it. None of my friends are stupid enough to whore anything on me or nor I them even online -- its' not all that bad guys, the problem is you guys dont weigh your options. Instead of trying to hurry up and block low try jumping, instead of trying to block a move that gives you hella negative frames try GI'ing -- I grantee you if it still hits you and you miss the GI it's alot better then whats' to follow if you block it.

So in conclusion, Plume i still disagree with your post, no one's going to stop being aggressive, the people who play aggressive like that online still play the same offline, that argument is so cliche -- Why in the hell would someone stop playing how they play online to play offline ? Cause I dont. I play the same cause my style is made for both.

Anyway, carry on.

Making sacrifices is key, I rather lay on the ground and take a low hit that cant relaunch me then tech-rolling and getting launched. But i have a history in 3D/2D fighting games I just know enough to seize the match however it is going.
 
K3VIN_SORBO said:
You guys all have solid rationale with the dealings of this humble rant. But, what exactly is to blame the repetition of the end-user or the idiocy on your part for falling for the same thing?
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Should it really be called idiocy to fall for the same thing?
Because in that case, ATL_R3dd is an idiot.

I saw a match from him on youtube, one in particular, where he lost. His opponent kept abusing the same stupid low sweep move repeatedly, and he fell for it.
To me, it's crystal clear that he was expecting his opponent to play better than this, and would surely attempt to surprise him with a new attack.

I know I'm like that. It's easier for me to expect change, and surprise attempts, rather than repetition and simplicity.
It has costed me many losses and not only in SCIV.


That aside...
Do you know how to block in this game? Do you ever block? Because if you do, then you're probably not the kind of player that I'm complaining about. But you do play Amy, online, and I probably never fought you. So I don't know, maybe you're indeed the kind of player that I complain about.
 
Plume said:
Should it really be called idiocy to fall for the same thing?
Because in that case, ATL_R3dd is an idiot.

I saw a match from him on youtube, one in particular, where he lost. His opponent kept abusing the same stupid low sweep move repeatedly, and he fell for it.
To me, it's crystal clear that he was expecting his opponent to play better than this, and would surely attempt to surprise him with a new attack.

I know I'm like that. It's easier for me to expect change, and surprise attempts, rather than repetition and simplicity.
It has costed me many losses and not only in SCIV.


That aside...
Do you know how to block in this game? Do you ever block? Because if you do, then you're probably not the kind of player that I'm complaining about. But you do play Amy, online, and I probably never fought you. So I don't know, maybe you're indeed the kind of player that I complain about.
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I do know how to block, default place of the block feature is " [X] on my Dualshock controller. But it tells me that although you have experience losses in other games beyond SCIV, you've yet to capture the reason why just because you have the " ABILITY " to block an attack doesnt mean its best you do so. Have you heard of sidestepping ? You do know I'll definitely murder you if you were to play me if you were a linear player. Did you know jumping a low is better then blocking a low ? Did you also know that sometimes being heavily offensive is in fact a defensive? Why should I block when your in no position to hit me ? I can tell by your reply that you are definitely a linear playing fighter , one I would never take serious. It's good to block, dont get me wrong, but knowing when to block and when to avoid(sidestep/GI) is what makes a player even more dangerous then being heavily offensive.

Think kiliks 214B on block ? Do you really want to block that ? And catch a 3KB for free ? lol.....like seriously do you ? Or do you want to block Rocks 214A:A:A ? Do you want to block Asty's 2 for a free mix up of a unavoidable low grab ( given that you dont break the throw ) nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you probably would block, BLOCKING ALL THE TIME IS COOOOOOOL !!!!!!!! yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !

And yea I do play Amy online, and given that you've assured me that you are 1) Linear based 2) A Blocker , I'ts pretty obvious that I'd really dismantle you and all those hours in practice mode and against edgemaster and all that offline casual matches with your friends. Theres more to a fighting game then just knowing moves and backing up and blocking. It's psychological. I dont care if you think im going to surprise you with a new attack after i've hit you with 3 1A's, i'll do 3 more till " I TRAIN YOU " to block low then im going to go mid, then when you learn to block that i'll go back low. Until you yourself learn how to turn the tides.

Boy i tell ya, common sense aint common.

Good day to you sir.
 
I asked if you knew how to block, not to insult you or make assumptions about you, but rather to tell you that maybe you're not the kind of player that I'm complaining about.

But since you want to do it this way...
K3VIN_SORBO said:
Did you know jumping a low is better then blocking a low ?
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Did you know that sometimes, you cannot jump to avoid a low sweep? Instead, you're forced to block, GI, or use quick tech jump attacks or attacks with weird hit boxes around the feet.


I'm not sure why we're arguing at all...
I tried to give a few hints, pointing at the fact that I don't know you, you don't know me, and there are good chances that you're not even the kind of kid that I'm complaining about.
I don't see why you insist so much on attacking me. And underestimating me like that.
But the longer it goes, the more I get the impression that you might indeed be that kind of kid.
 
Plume said:
I asked if you knew how to block, not to insult you or make assumptions about you, but rather to tell you that maybe you're not the kind of player that I'm complaining about.

But since you want to do it this way...


Did you know that sometimes, you cannot jump to avoid a low sweep? Instead, you're forced to block, GI, or use quick tech jump attacks or attacks with weird hit boxes around the feet.


I'm not sure why we're arguing at all...
I tried to give a few hints, pointing at the fact that I don't know you, you don't know me, and there are good chances that you're not even the kind of kid that I'm complaining about.
I don't see why you insist so much on attacking me. And underestimating me like that.
But the longer it goes, the more I get the impression that you might indeed be that kind of kid.
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LOL.

Right.

Kid though ?

Im positive you suck. end of. Dont tell me that I cant jump, you can jump ANY LOW. Now if you are in the midst of trying to jump you can get hit because avoiding the [LOW HITBOX] hasnt registered with the engine while your in the midst of trying.

Did you know to be honest i think you suck ? Cause your crying about aggressive players, I've never seen a good , decent player cry about that, TAUNTING IS IN THE GAME for a very strategic reason. Something-Unique does it all the time, it does exactly what it's called " TAUNT " you. It's an act that says , to me, " Come try to hit me " people like you would fall for such a trap cause you probably try to attack out of emotionality just like your displaying here. I dont care about you as a player, i care about you posting this type of crap here about an agressive player who taunts you and you call it being flashy. If you want someone to stop taunting, you have to go to namco not us.

HOT ROD DAVE, scram kiddo.
 
Wait, did you write all of these posts only to tell me that I suck? Because if it's your reason, then we can stop all of that right now.
I have no reason to care about what you think of me.

If you knew how I play, especially when I'm not having a bad day or I'm not tired, then maybe I'd care about what you have to say about my performances in the game. Maybe.

But all that you have is false assumptions that come from my written complaint.

And I didn't complain about taunting. That was Hot Rod Dave's assumption about my post.

Even though you underestimate me, I already know that I still have a lot to improve on.
So keep up the good work, captain obvious.

I was thinking that maybe you were offended, but apparently your only purpose here was to tell me that I suck and nothing else.
 
K3VIN_SORBO said:
LOL.

Right.

Kid though ?

Im positive you suck. end of. Dont tell me that I cant jump, you can jump ANY LOW. Now if you are in the midst of trying to jump you can get hit because avoiding the [LOW HITBOX] hasnt registered with the engine while your in the midst of trying.

Did you know to be honest i think you suck ? Cause your crying about aggressive players, I've never seen a good , decent player cry about that, TAUNTING IS IN THE GAME for a very strategic reason. Something-Unique does it all the time, it does exactly what it's called " TAUNT " you. It's an act that says , to me, " Come try to hit me " people like you would fall for such a trap cause you probably try to attack out of emotionality just like your displaying here. I dont care about you as a player, i care about you posting this type of crap here about an agressive player who taunts you and you call it being flashy. If you want someone to stop taunting, you have to go to namco not us.

HOT ROD DAVE, scram kiddo.
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You quote sidestepping as viable, when most of the Bs in this game track. You've also shown your own intelligence level when you tell someone you know they suck, because they block and arent aggressive like you. Yes, some of us arent overly aggressive, we try to strategize how we approach someone. You cant know Plume's skill level in comparison to your own, just because you read his post.

The problem with online is that it is online, button delay can allow an aggressive person to have the edge simply because the other person wont easily be able to interrupt. Jump a low with button delay isnt easy, GI with button delay isnt easy, sidestepping the few Bs in the game on reaction is not easy with button delay. This thread was not about telling someone how good or bad they were. So why do you insist on making it such a thread.
 
K3VIN_SORBO said:
HOT ROD DAVE, scram kiddo.
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blow it out ur ass!! Ur panties are so in a twist its wrecking ur coochie. Quit cryin already. I remeber playing you, and in my opinion u suck too. Im sure theres a few people that think, I suck! Keep me out of ur conversation cause I think your full of shit! If taunting players bother him, let them bother him, its not hurting you is it. You are more than welcome to think to yourself that he sucks, doesnt matter to me probablly doesnt matter to him. so STFU already!!
 
Online annoyances, due to lag:

1. Sig 3, esp when I'm playing Taki and I get CH tryin to (what would be offline) a punish
2. Sophitia 1AAA, when you KNOW you blocked low!!
3. This one guy that played Taki and repeatedly did 1B, A, PO K. 1B, A, PO K. 1B, A, PO K. He thought it was an infinite and quit after I kept ducking the PO K and CH'ing him with Sets.
4. Lizardman crawl stance
5. Mits players that do only 2K, B / 3B. Ghetto ass 50/50
6. Players that disconnect mid-match because they're getting raped in a mirror match.
7. "1" connection ranked matches
8. People that spazz after getting thrown
9. The people in the top 10 on the leaderboards that only made it there because they quit every time they were about to lose.
10. The guy that disconnects mid-match then sends you a flame email telling you how cheap he thinks you are.
 
Xiomar said:
Online annoyances, due to lag:

1. Sig 3, esp when I'm playing Taki and I get CH tryin to (what would be offline) a punish
2. Sophitia 1AAA, when you KNOW you blocked low!!
3. This one guy that played Taki and repeatedly did 1B, A, PO K. 1B, A, PO K. 1B, A, PO K. He thought it was an infinite and quit after I kept ducking the PO K and CH'ing him with Sets.
4. Lizardman crawl stance
5. Mits players that do only 2K, B / 3B. Ghetto ass 50/50
6. Players that disconnect mid-match because they're getting raped in a mirror match.
7. "1" connection ranked matches
8. People that spazz after getting thrown
9. The people in the top 10 on the leaderboards that only made it there because they quit every time they were about to lose.
10. The guy that disconnects mid-match then sends you a flame email telling you how cheap he thinks you are.
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Interesting, I find it impossible to land Sieg's 3 on a spamming taki online.
 
Plume said:
Wait, did you write all of these posts only to tell me that I suck? Because if it's your reason, then we can stop all of that right now.
I have no reason to care about what you think of me.

If you knew how I play, especially when I'm not having a bad day or I'm not tired, then maybe I'd care about what you have to say about my performances in the game. Maybe.

But all that you have is false assumptions that come from my written complaint.

And I didn't complain about taunting. That was Hot Rod Dave's assumption about my post.

Even though you underestimate me, I already know that I still have a lot to improve on.
So keep up the good work, captain obvious.

I was thinking that maybe you were offended, but apparently your only purpose here was to tell me that I suck and nothing else.
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LoL nah if you havent read the PSN thread You should... Sorbo is just an ass period ;)
 
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