weshookhands
[13] Hero
so does she still have her low throws or what? i haven't seen either of them even once yet. she needs new throw animations altogether, btw.
Leixia Discussion Thread
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Windstar
[13] Hero
At the moment, no crouch throws. She does have a new throw animation, though, she shares one with Xianghua that's been around since SC1. Maybe it'll change in the future? Besides that, she's got some crazy good range on her BB and 3B. And her old A+K has a new input.
weshookhands
[13] Hero
which one is different? i saw X's regular A, B, right, left and back throws.
Windstar
[13] Hero
Looks like a command throw that switched positions, but it had standard throw damage. Not sure which video I saw it in.
weshookhands
[13] Hero
sounds good. well, if anybody knows in which video it can be seen, please provide a link or something.
Kalas
[13] Hero
I think you can see another BE-move of Leixia here at 00:22.
It seems to be her SC3 AA4B string.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KvbvIPDMHk&feature=feedu
It seems to be her SC3 AA4B string.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KvbvIPDMHk&feature=feedu
Windstar
[13] Hero
Here it is, a little before the minute mark. She handstand leaps over the opponent and 66Ks them.
BLACKSTAR
[10] Knight
wow, she has some cool stuff at around 1:13 in your video too,
-She can brave edge out of Great Wall (formerly 66A+B, now WS B). I think she says 'I'm on FIRE!' like in NBA Jam :D
-She looks like she can feint out of her Advancing Rhythm (6B) into Lian Hua Twist Left (aB)! .....interesting :)
Violent Vodka
Pick Your Poison
She more, like, spins around on top of them, 'cause she's in the same spot as before the grab. But either way. Cool shizz.
TGrrr89
[09] Warrior
After seeing her in action earlier this morning, I just want to say her Critical Edge is awesome! Pose at the end FTW!
weshookhands
[13] Hero
wow, her fluidity and trickery really make up for her relative slowness. i couldn't take my eyes off them mindgames. my jianshu heart is jumping!
i also feel that she's much more of her own character than natsu, who basically seems to be a taki skin with teleports.
i also feel that she's much more of her own character than natsu, who basically seems to be a taki skin with teleports.
Gabedamien
I Want To Be Happy
Leixia looked SICKNASTY. Soooo many cancels, fakes, evades, etc. Beautiful movement. And lots of GBs too I guess.
As disappointed as I am by Mitsu’s senility (which was only slightly mitigated by today’s stream), I am happy about Leixia’s prodigiousness.
As disappointed as I am by Mitsu’s senility (which was only slightly mitigated by today’s stream), I am happy about Leixia’s prodigiousness.
Windstar
[13] Hero
Few things to keep in mind on the Leixia video from the SC5 Namco stream...
All of her feints with the guard breaks were vertical (and linear moves), and the likely don't track well. We have yet to see what all her Brave Edges are capable of (and they might even include some fakes as well). Leixia is also telegraphing a lot, but the nice thing is those guard breaks of hers are likely to be fairly safe on block, given how slow they are. It seems like she can choose between continuing a damaging attack (like 4A+B or 66BB, both which used to be NCs) or canceling to a fake if they're blocked. Since her 4A+B lets her feint into aB (and recover crouching) and her 66BB lets her cancel the second B into a guard break B (instead of getting a crumple KND) it seems can decide if she wants to yomi or pressure with more damage.
The fun thing is how some of these fakes put her into a position to use another move to feint with, or go for a tech trap or straight damage. From the 4A+B feint into aB, you recover crouching so you can go with WS A+B 2B or feint the 2B into another GB low. Or you can FC 3B or feint with that. Or you can WS B (new Great Wall input) and since it has a Brave Edge input, pressure with that. Just tons of options out some very basic stuff.
One other point to look at, is that Leixia has a new string besides AAB. It's A into aB, not sure what the command would be (probably something simple like A2B or something), so her basic AA string has a few mix-ups there that can really be played up on making your opponent guess.
All of her feints with the guard breaks were vertical (and linear moves), and the likely don't track well. We have yet to see what all her Brave Edges are capable of (and they might even include some fakes as well). Leixia is also telegraphing a lot, but the nice thing is those guard breaks of hers are likely to be fairly safe on block, given how slow they are. It seems like she can choose between continuing a damaging attack (like 4A+B or 66BB, both which used to be NCs) or canceling to a fake if they're blocked. Since her 4A+B lets her feint into aB (and recover crouching) and her 66BB lets her cancel the second B into a guard break B (instead of getting a crumple KND) it seems can decide if she wants to yomi or pressure with more damage.
The fun thing is how some of these fakes put her into a position to use another move to feint with, or go for a tech trap or straight damage. From the 4A+B feint into aB, you recover crouching so you can go with WS A+B 2B or feint the 2B into another GB low. Or you can FC 3B or feint with that. Or you can WS B (new Great Wall input) and since it has a Brave Edge input, pressure with that. Just tons of options out some very basic stuff.
One other point to look at, is that Leixia has a new string besides AAB. It's A into aB, not sure what the command would be (probably something simple like A2B or something), so her basic AA string has a few mix-ups there that can really be played up on making your opponent guess.
Gabedamien
I Want To Be Happy
Actually you may be right. Ugh, it’s so hard to tell in that vid. Looking for more references. It seems like the camera just randomly teleports slightly but doesn’t actually flip around. A classic abuse of the 30° rule.
Violent Vodka
Pick Your Poison
She does the grab in a few of her stream fights, too. I'm pretty sure she just spins on top of them.
Windstar
[13] Hero
She's handstand leaping over the opponent from one shoulder to the head, coming back down in front of them and kicking them.
Violent Vodka
Pick Your Poison
But the opponent doesn't turn, does he? I don't think she flips over them..
Edit: I just watched the throw again. The camera didn't turn at all, and they're both on the same side. There's no way she flips over them. Just gets up onto their shoulders, spins around, and kicks them.
Windstar
[13] Hero
Exactly as I said. Twice. =)
Violent Vodka
Pick Your Poison
Well, I was just saying. The other person was saying they did.
Windstar
[13] Hero
So I went ahead and examined the footage we have of Leixia some more and I now believe that Leixia is in fact, transitioning into some sort of stance when she cancels, or feints, into another attack.
Basically, her A, 4B, and 4A+B are the primary moves we see when she feints into her aB attack. If you notice, however, these are the same moves that Xianghua has (plus others) where she can transition into SXS. Rather than transition into a stance like Xianghua does, Leixia is actually going straight into the feint attack she wants to perform. I suspect then, that Leixia is actually able to pick from a selection of attacks she can feint into. The input is probably something like A+B, B+K, and A+K. Meaning, when she uses an attack that lets her feint or cancel, she can pick which one she wants to use. So doing 4A+B and canceling the second attack with another A+B press would let her feint into aB. And she probably has other attacks she can feint into when using a particular move to feint with.
As for her guard break attacks from WS A+B2B, 66BB, and FC 3B, I believe these are holds, where instead of opting for an immediate hit she can charge the attack and turn it into a guard break. Basically delaying the attack (and making it look like a feint) to charge it into a guard break.
Basically, her A, 4B, and 4A+B are the primary moves we see when she feints into her aB attack. If you notice, however, these are the same moves that Xianghua has (plus others) where she can transition into SXS. Rather than transition into a stance like Xianghua does, Leixia is actually going straight into the feint attack she wants to perform. I suspect then, that Leixia is actually able to pick from a selection of attacks she can feint into. The input is probably something like A+B, B+K, and A+K. Meaning, when she uses an attack that lets her feint or cancel, she can pick which one she wants to use. So doing 4A+B and canceling the second attack with another A+B press would let her feint into aB. And she probably has other attacks she can feint into when using a particular move to feint with.
As for her guard break attacks from WS A+B2B, 66BB, and FC 3B, I believe these are holds, where instead of opting for an immediate hit she can charge the attack and turn it into a guard break. Basically delaying the attack (and making it look like a feint) to charge it into a guard break.
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