Wandrian
I don't know.
You're too small-minded. They need to be castrated when they're born and let their generation figure out a method for de-castration themselves. Fuck the next generation, they don't deserve it.
Need advice for the upcoming Presidential Election.
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You're too small-minded. They need to be castrated when they're born and let their generation figure out a method for de-castration themselves. Fuck the next generation, they don't deserve it.
Donutman
[12] Conqueror
Can we just say no matter who we vote for we are fucked anyway?
Wandrian
I don't know.
Norik
[14] Master
Still voting for Romney?
Guys, wake the fuck up already. He doesn't even give a crap about conservatives, he just cares about the money. I don't know how Romney has gotten such a large following, I hadn't seen a politician so repugnant since Nixon... but that'd be an insult to Nixon, since he at least had his foreign policy straight. Just take a look at the campaigns, half the crap on his website is pure bullshit.
http://www.mittromney.com/
Now compare that to Obama's...
http://www.barackobama.com/
Guys, wake the fuck up already. He doesn't even give a crap about conservatives, he just cares about the money. I don't know how Romney has gotten such a large following, I hadn't seen a politician so repugnant since Nixon... but that'd be an insult to Nixon, since he at least had his foreign policy straight. Just take a look at the campaigns, half the crap on his website is pure bullshit.
http://www.mittromney.com/
Now compare that to Obama's...
http://www.barackobama.com/
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UnseenWombat
[14] Master
The economy and taxes aren't the issues I'm interested in.
MuffinMan123
[10] Knight
if only the 3rd parties aren't shut down by the media that already bought out the big 2, they might have been able to keep the big 2 honest.
SinsOfSalvation
[10] Knight
Obama might be a popular guy but he's a horrible president. Socialism is failing all around the world but its Obama's vision of the future. Its also a complete failure of the media that they dont expect answers on what just happened in Libya. Obama critized Bush for spending too much money but he has added more debt in 3 years than Bush did in 8 years. Thats the secrect of liberals, most of the media is on their side, which is borderline communism btw. You'll never hear the truth. And when Obama tried to ban Fox News from attending the white house PRESS confrence, well, that is communism. Abortion is horrible. Have you ever heard of "late term abortion"? Thats when a baby is being born but the doctor stops the baby from coming out completely, then he cuts the back of the babies neck to "abort" it. They say that legally, since the baby is not completly out, then its not a baby yet so its ok to "abort" it. I remember when the Iraq war started, some people were saying that if you support the war then you should be in the war. Well if your pro abortion, do any of you wish to be aborted?
JDub
Mmm. Pie.
*Uhh...wuht? There are more socialistic countries that have done better during this global economic decline than not. Name the countries where socialism is failing please. I'm sure it's not Sweden, Norway, Finland, Britain, Canada, Germany or France. Yeah, they've suffered but due to the financial problems caused by us Capitalists. Your point is highly is devoid of reality. Prove me wrong by citing those "failing" socialist countries and maybe even what your definition of failure is.
Plus, I mean no ill will, but you need to look up the definitions of terms like "socialism" and "communism". Just as our country has never been a pure Democracy, or pure Republic, many countries labeled "socialist" and "communist" are as socialist as we are a Democracy. As far as the debt being added to under Obama - can you cite anywhere in history where debt has shrunk within four years of a global economic collapse? Now:
Being able to go directly from communism to abortion is something my "liberal" mind will never understand. Unless this was an intentional non-sequitur. But, abortions after the third trimester are illegal. That is fact. Unless, the health of the mother or child is in danger. Aren't you from the party that wanted to leave such decisions up to the doctor and patient? And if you're going to equate abortions to war casualties - over 4,000 American troops dead, over 160,000 Iraqi civilians dead. I suppose those are all considered "very late-term abortions"? I think the thing about abortions are, they are not allowed after the third trimester because the fetus isn't considered viable until the percentage of survival is higher than the mortality rate at that point in time. Until a fetus is attached to the uterine wall the chances of the wall shedding and naturally "flushing" out the fetus are higher than the fetus actually attaching. At least, that's how the medical field seems to state it.
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UnseenWombat
[14] Master
Nah, the only thing third parties do is screw up the chances of the candidates from the main 2 parties. The only way a third party would ever work is if it drew in equal numbers of voters from both the Dem's and Rep's, or if there were a 3rd, and 4th party, like the constitution party and the green party, that would split both the major 2 equally. Otherwise, it just equals a sure win for whichever side doesn't have the leech sucking away their voters.
SinsOfSalvation
[10] Knight
Greece is in financal ruin because it cant afford the entitilements that are promised to its citizens. Didnt France receive a bailout? Greece wants a second bailout, does that represent economic security? Canada has a different health care system as we do and so does the U.K. If you want to see a specicalist in the U.K. theres a long wait, you just cant walk in and see one. Our medical system is expensive but we have the best doctors in the world. ObamaCare wont fix anything, its just a huge expensive burden. And you just said "economic global collapse". According to Obama and the many other liberal news, Bush caused that. Thats why Obama got elected, isnt it? Every promise Obama made about the economy hasnt been kept. Because Obama served during a reccesion, does that mean he should not be acountable? You can watch election news right now and they say Romney will bring back Bush's recession. The news is supposed to report the facts but its obvious that they lean left. Whats the point of a free press if thats the case? Explain why Obama wanted to ban Fox News? Controlling the press is communism isnt it? And the only reason Fox was not banned was because the other news organizations objected to it. Concerning war, many people forget that Al Qaeda's 1st attack on America was during the Clinton years. He avoided going to war but on 9-11 the twin towers fell because of his failure to do anything. Clinton also cut funds from the CIA and the military. War is not a nice thing but its done to keep us safe on the homeland. Obama constantly compares himself to Lincoln but Lincoln was a wartime president. Remember the Civil War? Lincoln believed that war had purpose, does that mean Lincoln is ignorant to the concept of casualties? And abortion hasnt always been legal. Doctor Tillar performed late term abortions. A pro abortion doctor vs the belief that life begins at conception. Can those doctors say that life does not begin at conception? Also, i know i switch subjects alot but im just typing how i think so that will probably continue.
JDub
Mmm. Pie.
Greece is in financial ruin yes. Who knocked over the first domino? We did. Greece is at fault for trusting us and tying itself to us economically. Our unregulated banks couple with Greece's over optimistic projection on returns on investment (mostly because the investments were through our shit-stock that we rated "AAA") caused this problem. This issue doesn't have much to do with any one President though.
First, have you ever even tried to see a specialist here? My experience is that you're put on a waiting list for months. That's first hand experience BTW.
If our doctor's are so great, why do we rate so low on Health Care compared to other "1st world" nations? Just like everything we buy, compared to the rest of the world, we spend more but get less service.
The non-partisan CBO (Congressional Budget Office) actually found that "Obamacare" will cut cost compared to medical expenditures without it. Mainly due to the individual mandate increasing revenue. I don't oppose an individual mandate since everyone, at some point in time, will need health care.
It's done to make you FEEL like you're being kept safe on the "homeland". Republicans always disparage Democrats for "throwing money at a problem". But when it comes to the war machine, no amount is too high for the Republicans. Money to the Pentagon is always okay but money to the downtrodden is aiding moochers. There was no need to keep funding the Pentagon at Cold War levels. Clinton left office with a budget surplus and a funny smelling cigar. He didn't like a bloated Pentagon but didn't mind bloated ass. I'll take it. You act as if anytime money is cut from defense its a bad thing. Like the defense industry doesn't know and take full advantage of the situation. Give us money or you're not a patriot. This, to me, is the equivalent of holding us for ransom.
So, we're not currently engaged in military aggression? Interesting... And to give purpose to the death of men for ideals that may not even be their own means you are ignorant of the concept of casualties? I did not know that.
Late term abortions are only legal when the life of the mother or child (or both) is at risk. You want to change that from being a medical decision between patient and doctor to a moral decision made by hypocrites, I mean, politicians? Sorry, but if life begins at conception then miscarriages are what? God committing murder? To the medical profession they consider it an ethical issue and weigh it as such. From the moment the fetus has a higher probability of living than dying, abortion gets taken off the table. I really don't think the decision to have a kid is any easier than deciding to have an abortion. I'm sure it's a trying issue for those that have to face it. I'm willing to respect the decision despite how many 19yr old girls with babies on well-fare we get taxed to support. If it was up to pure economics the decision would be easy. Six-hundred plus dollars for an abortion, or thousands of dollars a year times eighteen years to not have an abortion. That's why I think it's best to let people decide their own moral direction on this issue.
Wandrian
I don't know.
SOS, I respect your right to an opinion. However, I must say: your opinion is bad and you should feel bad. Of course the people in Euroland fucked up socialism, they're not the goddamn greatest country in the world. If anyone can get socialism right, it's us. YOO ESS AY! YOO ESS AY! YOO ESS AY!
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UnseenWombat
[14] Master
I wanted to see a rheumatologist a year or two ago and got an appointment the same week. Maybe something's just wrong with Missouri.
Donutman
[12] Conqueror
>implying fox news tells the truth AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
If we can, we should just kill fox news in general, the world would be a better place.
K0rN_b4LL
[14] Master
Abraham Lincoln pulled it off, even if he was the only third party canidate in history to do so.
Darkmoonlight
[13] Hero
It really cares about what you think... imo Obama had his chance and he didn't do anything to amazing at least where I live so Romney is welcomed, even though I support gay marriage.
Donutman
[12] Conqueror
I say they are both stupid but i'd take the guy who at least can understand why airplane windows dont open
Wandrian
I don't know.
You're a minor, Donut. Your opinion is as valid as your vote >:D
Donutman
[12] Conqueror
JDub
Mmm. Pie.
I didn't expect such optimism from you. Are you baiting me for a punish? XD
I think we have to consider good policy regardless of where it comes from. The reality is that we're all increasingly interconnected socially and economically on a global scale. People are taught that socialism is evil because the private interests that print our text books are threatened the most by people coming together for stupid things like labor rights, fare wages, redistribution of wealth and the like. If you hate redistribution of wealth, please stop watching sports. The model for our national sports organizations is to redistribute wealth so that one team can't buy up all the good players. Sort of why some redistribution of wealth is good for a Nation that wishes not to be a plutocracy.
Edit.
Yeah, our politics has been getting closer to Arkansas. We have Tod Aiken and his magic vagina's.
Oh, and I'm not convinced that any President could have completely reversed the damage done from the worst economic disaster since the great depression. I don't think eight years will be enough. Regardless of President or policy. But that's just going by economic models done on supercomputers by analysts.