Well, I think ASTAROTH and IVY are other game breakers. I mean, legit guys, JUST FRAME FUCKING GRABS!?!? YOU'RE SHITTING ME!!! That stuff is like.. UNBREAKABLE cuz they're JUST FRAMES. It's not like they're almost always B grabs in Astaroth' case, and ALWAYS B grabs in Ivy's.
Another thing! Astaroth's 44[A] makes my xbox crash everytime it's used because it leave the opponent with absolutely NO options but to sit there and take it like a 5 dollar hooker.
ANOTHER THING! Astaroth's 4B+K is more OP than Mitsurugi's 4B, and EVERYONE (even Stickman) knows that 4B didn't set the bar, it broke that bitch and shot it into the sun. On size 5 characters, 4B+K combos into 28:B+G for FUCKALL DAMAGE. And on normal characters, you don't even need 28:B+G, it does FUCKALL DAMAGE ANYWAYS!!
Broken.