Punishment List

[mikosu]

This thread is meant to show what seem to the best punishers for moves. Try to keep some in mind.

Algol
aB - AA
1A - WS B, 44K
3AA - BB, 44K
4AA - duck and WS B
6AAB - 44K or step and punish
11A - WS B
66A - AA
3BB - WS B or step and punish
6BBB - BB
623B - 8KKK
11B - WS B, 44K
66BA - 44K
K6 - KK
1K - WS B
4K - KK
6KK - WS B
WS [K] - duck and WS B
11K - WS B
A+B - BB
8A+K - WS B
6B+K - AA in corner only
QI K - 236KK
QI B+K - 44K (must block close)

Amy
1A - WS B, WS K, 236KK (if you're super quick at reacting to blocking it)
4A - BB, 2BK
1B - WS B, WS K
3BA - JUMP B or 9B+K over the A
6BBB - BB
FC 1B - WS B, WS K
FC 3B - AA
JUMP B - FC A
1KA - duck and WS B, WS K, or 236KK (really fast)
4KK - AA
WS K - AA
6K - KK (If she goes into AmS she'll TC it.)
2A+B - FC A
8A+B - FC A
FC A+BA - BB
2B+K - WS K
4B+KB - CR evade the B
44ABA - duck and 8KKK
44B - BB, 2BK
WR A+B - KK
66B+K - 44K
AmS B MSH B - BB
AmS KK - WS B
BP A - BB
CrF A - FC A

Astaroth
6K - AA

Cassandra
236B - BB, 2BK
236[ B ] - BB

Cervantes
WR A - 2BK
3B - AA
FC A+B - 236KK

Darth Vader
3B - AA

Hilde
1KK - AA

Ivy
CL 214B - 236KK
CL 214[ B ] ~ SE neutral or step - 66B (if too slow it'll get stepped)
CL 214[ B ] ~ SE attack - 236KK (beats all her attack options)
WP 6AA - duck the 3rd hit and 236KK or 8KKK

Kilik
Asura Dance - 236KK

Lizardman
1AK - 236KK
3B - AA
1K/[K] - WS K
blocked LC A - 66K beats ANYTHING
LC B - 66B

Maxi

Mitsurugi
1A - WS B
bA - 2BK
3B - AA, BB
4B - AA
kB - WS B, 44K
1K - FC A
2KB - 8KKK
4KB - WS B
A+B - BB
A+B4_6 - BB
A+K - WS B
B+K - AA
FC 1A+B - WS B, 44K
11A - FC A
33B - 8KKK
66BB - 236KK
RLC A - duck and 236KK
RLC B - 2BK

Nightmare
GS A - BB

Raphael
1A - WS B
3A - KK
4A - BB, 2BK
BB - KK
1BB - WS B
6BBB - 2BK, 44K, CR evade the last hit
JUMP B - FC A
FC 3BB - 236KK
WS B - AA
1K - WS B
6K - KK
2A+B - WS B
22AA_AB - WS B after the 2nd attack
22B_[ B ] - AA (punishes and beats all VE options)
33B - WS B
66B_[ B ] - 4K (punishes and beats all Prep options)
33KB_K:B - 4K, 44K
Prep A - BB
Prep BBB:B - 236KK
Prep K:K - WS B, 44K
Prep A+B - BB, 2BK
SEA K - BB, 2BK
VE A - 236KK (you don't have to duck)
VE BB_B:B - WS B, 44K
VE K - AA

Rock
214AAA - GI for mixup or AA on block
6K - AA

Seong Mi-Na
8A+B - 236KK, A+BB

Setsuka
FC 3aB - 236KK

Siegfried
1AA - WS B
2A - WS K
3A - AA
6A - BB (6[A] can't be punished)
WS AA - 8KKK
BBB - BB, 4BK
B2A - WS B
1B - BB
4BBB - FC A
6B - 2BK
BT BB - WS B, 44K
1K - FC A
2K - WS B
3KKB - BB
6K - AA
JUMP K - KK
A+BA - FC A
A+KAAB - 44K
A+KA2AA - 4BK
A+KK - BB
22_88A - 44K
66A - AA
44BB - 2BK
66A+B - WS B
FC throws - 4K
SBH K - 8KKK
SSH AA - WS B
SSH K - AA
SRSH B - 2BK
SRSH K - WS K

Sophitia
236B - 236KK, A+BB

Taki

Talim

The Apprentice

Tira
JS 66AA - 236KK, A+BB
WR B - BB (must be close, much easier to punish in GS)
BT B+KB - 44K

Voldo
CR B - 236KK

Xianghua
AAB - BB, 44K
aKB_1kAAB - WS K or step and punish
aKK_1kAAK - WS B or step and punish
1A - FC A
3A - WS K
33_99A - AA
bK - KK
1BB - 2BK, throw attempt
3B - AA
4BB - AA or step and punish
6BB - WS B, 44K
11_77B2A - WS B
22_88B - 2BK, 44K
33_99B - CR evade the 3rd hit
44B - AA, 44K
1K - WS B
2K - FC A
6K - BB
JUMP K - BB, throw attempt
11_77K - WS K
33_99KA - 236KK
A+B - 44K
2A+B - 4BK
66A+B - 2BK, 44K
B+K - WS B
66B+K - 2BK, 44K
2A+K2K - WS B
4A+KA - duck and 236KK
WS A+B2B - WS K
SXS B (earth and heaven) - WS B

Yoda

Yoshimitsu
3AB - 236KK, A+BB
3B - BB, 3[K], throw attempt
DGF K - 236KK, 8KKK if u react nearly immediately

Yun-Seong
CR A+K - 236KK

Zasalamel
1AB - WS B
3AB - AA
WR A4 - KK
BB4 - AA
FC 3B - 2BK
WS B - AA
KK - WS B

 

[Dullyanna]

Suggested Punishment List

For what it's worth, I think WS B is fast enough to punish a lot of lows, assuming they don't end in TC or something.

 

[dittO]

Suggested Punishment List

Nice punishment list.
I didn't know that Yun had such nice tools to keep Ivy from spaming her evasion move.
Although its not a win-win strategy, it can surely make Ivy players think twice before using this, because the mix-up is actually for both of them (but more risk for Ivy).

 

[mikosu]

Suggested Punishment List

Thanks sir dittO. I added a few more here and there. I'll be doing one for Tira next.

 

[mikosu]

Suggested Punishment List

Happily added a few more. The anti-Lizard Crawl is worth remembering. Block any of the other options in LC and you're still at a guessing game. Also worth mentioning is if you get hit by LC A and they attempt another LC A you can 9B+K over it for the BT launch.

 

[hotnikkelz]

Suggested Punishment List

Happily added a few more. The anti-Lizard Crawl is worth remembering. Block any of the other options in LC and you're still at a guessing game. Also worth mentioning is if you get hit by LC A and they attempt another LC A you can 9B+K over it for the BT launch.

Try using Yun's 4B+K vs CR mixups ;)

 

[mikosu]

Just finished Amy's.

EDIT: And Raph's.

 

[mikosu]

Siegfried added.