Pyrrha Punishment Guide: General Discussion

Xeph

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General discussion concerning Pyrrha's punishment game, in general or pertaining towards the listing of individual characters. Feel free to ask questions, and/or if any mistakes are made via Punishment listing, don't be afraid to point-out.
 

Syn_SC

[10] Knight
Just a necessary tidbit to know vs Viola:
ORB 8A+B is 3B punishable
SET 8A+B has to be sidestepped or JG'd but 22K is garunteed when inputted between the two hits so this seems to be the go to midscreen punish, obviously step 3B for !W.

And Here's a fun one vs. Ivy 22(B) because it is dependent on being able to 236:B
As we all know, Ivy 22(B) is stab punishable.
If you 236B vs Ivy 22(B)B series the stab will lose, BUT if you land the just frame it trades putting Ivy in stun, allowing for a second stab, which is 100+ meterless damage. You can also 66B BE 22BAK for 116, or 66B+KAB, G, CE for 125.
 

andur

[10] Knight
If you are lazy, you can A+B auto-gi the 2nd hit of both ORB 8A+B and SET 8A+B if you weren't paying close attention to her state. Though, unless you are up close, the followup attacks whiff so don't continue the A+B B-auto-gi combo if it misses (though you still get air auto-gi damage). Obviously, Syn's punishes are better if you can do them, but, A+B is an easy option.
 
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Xeph

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If you are lazy, you can A+B auto-gi the 2nd hit of both ORB 8A+B and SET 8A+B if you weren't paying close attention to her state. Though, unless you are up close, the followup attacks whiff so don't continue the A+B B-auto-gi combo if it misses (though you still get air auto-gi damage). Obviously, Syn's punishes are better if you can do them, but, A+B is an easy option.
I believe using A+B might allow her to JG the GI? I haven't tested it with this particular situation, but JGing the GI is a annoying tool when dealing VS Viola.
 

andur

[10] Knight
I believe using A+B might allow her to JG the GI? I haven't tested it with this particular situation, but JGing the GI is a annoying tool when dealing VS Viola.

I have my doubts on that, since she's in the air and it becomes an aerial GI. If she can JG in the air, that is even buggier yet!
 

iKotomi

[10] Knight
I'm lazy and never do this but against nightmares 4k be you can duck the second hit and step the third for a 4b punish. I just twitch punish with a stab usually though.
 

Silent Joel

[12] Conqueror
I'm lazy and never do this but against nightmares 4k be you can duck the second hit and step the third for a 4b punish. I just twitch punish with a stab usually though.

Yeah same. I realised this a while ago but I still just duck and punish. Sidestepping it and hitting them with 4B leads to a ringout both sides too.
 

Natalya92

[08] Mercenary
Hello !

Would you please tell me when is the best moment to use Pyrrha's fire attack ? (back B+K)
Thank you
 

Xeph

#TRYHARD
Hello !

Would you please tell me when is the best moment to use Pyrrha's fire attack ? (back B+K)
Thank you
Partisan informed me of some applicable use for 4(B+K). Using it to punish Nightmare's CE. Combos into AS B, or CE if you have the meter.
 

andur

[10] Knight
Hello !

Would you please tell me when is the best moment to use Pyrrha's fire attack ? (back B+K)
Thank you

4B+K is super slow and linear... You're going to be stepped or counter hit out of it, or heck its easy to just guard if you want to be fancy.

That said, it does have some tech crouch frames. You can beat Pyrrha's 4B at neutral with it for example (4B blocked 4B gets punished by 4B+K), though its much easier just to duck and stab. It also ducks under both swings of Pyrrha's AA after a blocked 4B, though it can still be just guarded or stepped as its that slow.

You can do shenanigans like 22kK into 4B+K and hope they stand up into it (and hope 22kK actually hits). But it still doesn't catch rollers, and they can play dead. Plus you're losing out on guaranteed damage.

You can't even punish Pyrrha's 22BAK with it, they still have 2 frames to just guard it in (and you can 4B punish them anyways).
 

Natalya92

[08] Mercenary
Oh I see. Well when I first saw the fire attack I thought it would be nice to now how to use the most dangerous attack.
But now I understand that it's clever to use some others faster attacks which are more chances to hit. Thank you ! I'm going to try these on practice mode. :-DDD
 

SoNG-Of-SiLeNCe

Red Lotus
Oh I see. Well when I first saw the fire attack I thought it would be nice to now how to use the most dangerous attack.
But now I understand that it's clever to use some others faster attacks which are more chances to hit. Thank you ! I'm going to try these on practice mode. :-DDD
You can sometimes maybe sucker people into it when they are expecting something else. The higher the player's skill level the less likely, though you can sell unblockables on occasion. It's just too telegraphed to be worth using frequently.