SC:BD Explained!

ShenChan said:
Yun Seong
2B, K- Second hit knocks down on NH. NC 47 dmg. Huge buff IMO. The spin from the knockdown can be comboed off walls easily. Doesn't Spin on air hit.

1K, K- Second hit launches way higher than in console. K,K,B able.

22_88B- Same as above can be comboed now/

A+K- Cannot RO forward anymore.

33_99K- Knocks down on NH

CRA+K- The RO to his right seems to be further now.

Good additions imo. A+K front RO is a loss though.

Rock

Just to add abit

1K:Ground grab: Yes, it actually works now. Lol. In console, when ur opponent tech, ground grab will jus whiff and you get free punish. But now if ur opponent techs, the ground grab will hit but off axis (no dmg), i haven't tested crouch grab to catch techers.

2A+K: Used to be head towards, now it's feet towards.

3A+B or 1B+G: 22B doesn't combo after that anymore. Either that or i'm too slow.

Command throw does very little damage compared to last time. Sad..

214A:A:A still the same.

Mitsurugi

3B launches higher now.

2K, B- no slower version. First 2K will knockdown already. Cannot be comboed anymore as the B will hack them to the floor. Damage has been buffed to 46 now. Doesn't RO front anymore.

Tira

Still loses HP on whiff from GS.

X

Her 214B+G throw is still not fixed.

That's all i found for now.

Jovian
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thats some nice additions to Yun's game. any other changes for him you find please post
 
Does the knockdown off Yun 2b,k guarantee anything from Crane? It DOES still go into Crane, right? Try CR a+b and work your way down from there. Even if nothing is guaranteed, that's a huge buff.
 
Something-Unique said:
Ceirnian I just had to point this out but what is this I hear about you going into javachat and saying the exact same thing I said about Hilde being broken. Did u eat ur own words and flaming techniques and confess cause from what I heard u were 100% serious. If so that makes u and overzealous idiot to prove anything I say in regards to Hilde wrong.
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What the fuck are you talking about? Are you talking about the multiple times over the year I've said she could use a nerf in the ringout department? I heard from your cousins mothers brother that you said Kilik was one of the worst characters in the game and was unplayable.
 
All I see in here is "bla bla bla. My character got nerfed." Cry a river. Then jump in!

Zasalamel is nasty. Just nasty. And I want all you to stay far far away from him.


*loads shotgun*
 
ShenOu said:
I haven't the time to go through the thread right now.. but everyone still goes "WTF" whenever I mention this so I'm not sure if its been listed.

You can now be GI-ed out of the air.
So if your opponent GIs a 9A/9B/9K or any Tech-jump/airborne stance attack. You get "launched" by their GI and the follow up is guaranteed. No RE-GI for you~
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that is the coolest thing I have heard about BD hands down (being serious)
 
KowtowRobinson said:
Does the knockdown off Yun 2b,k guarantee anything from Crane? It DOES still go into Crane, right? Try CR a+b and work your way down from there. Even if nothing is guaranteed, that's a huge buff.
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sure is a good buff for him. glad to see it as i've picked up Yun lately. i'm in debate about this game right now. i don't have a psp but really want this game. the problem is for the cost of both game and psp i could add alittle more money with it and get the new PS3 slim. decisions decisions lol
 
You could always be GI-ed out of the air.

Are you saying being GI-ed out of airborne attacks now launches you in the air for possible damage?

Thats a 2d fighting game mechanic. What does it look like?
 
Ceirnian said:
What the fuck are you talking about? Are you talking about the multiple times over the year I've said she could use a nerf in the ringout department? I heard from your cousins mothers brother that you said Kilik was one of the worst characters in the game and was unplayable.
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HEY HEY HEY now...

i hate to butt in (and i probably shouldn't), but why don't YOU do something positive for the community instead of bitching about other people's bitching? It doesn't do anyone any good to bitch and NOT get anything done.

SU: same goes for you. Yes, i understand why you tested what you tested first, but that doesn't change the fact of about HOW you presented the info. Grant it, the info is welcomed, and by all means continue the comparison between the games.

However, the game's been out a few days and we have yet to discover EVERYTHING. However, please for the love of the community, STFU and let's continue finding more broken shit :D

btw, no one had answered my ? about asta.

does 33B hit's 2 spots or does it still have sc4 physics and hit's just high
 
ShenOu said:
I haven't the time to go through the thread right now.. but everyone still goes "WTF" whenever I mention this so I'm not sure if its been listed.

You can now be GI-ed out of the air.
So if your opponent GIs a 9A/9B/9K or any Tech-jump/airborne stance attack. You get "launched" by their GI and the follow up is guaranteed. No RE-GI for you~
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All I have to add to this is GI ringouts are amazing. No follow up necessary, just GI and watch your opponent fly out of the ring.
 
From what I have been reading it seems like CFs as a whole have been made harder. Has anyone tested how many GIs it takes to break the gauge? Maybe that has been uped since GIs have been buffed in other areas. Also check if throws can be GIed now.
 
I got given a spammy Sieg AI in quick match before. Spammed 44K aerial kick. That's right, aerial kicks. But it's okay guys, I JI'd that shit.


It was fucking mad.
 
Chickenwing said:
Does's asta's 66B, just a high, or was it back to what it normally was, which was both a SpMid and a High?
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It's a High, duckable and all.

Throws can still be GI'd.
Air GI is not that good of a launcher. 4GI vs Airborne just puts them flat to the ground, no bounce.
Normal GIs do not RO! Only 6GI vs Airborne does. Haven't tried any Just Impacts though.
 
Punchdrunk said:
It's a High, duckable and all.

Throws can still be GI'd.
Air GI is not that good of a launcher. 4GI vs Airborne just puts them flat to the ground, no bounce.
Normal GIs do not RO! Only 6GI vs Airborne does. Haven't tried any Just Impacts though.
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*sigh* fail...*shrugs*

Oh well, THANK YOU for answering my question. At least someone doesn't have a ego trip up their ass...

:D
 
Chickenwing:

So apparently there is wrong in going out of one's way to present researched info on a game for the community unless you present it in the most gift wrapped pink and rainbow colored form. So anything negative in the slightest even if its true should never be stated from the things i'm hearing. Also it seems like I went from the guy who has been providing or coming up with methods to help support different aspects of this community to the guy who is bitching in one thread. Marvelous how things can immediately shift that way in a matter of a few views if there is any negative comments about the game even if its true.

Ex 1: SC:BD is at its core SC4 Patch 1.03.5 constructed by Scamco. This game has been re-sealed and made portable for PSP to make extreme profits at the $40.00 price point in patch form with the inclusion of two new characters to make it look like a new game.

Is this complaining or could it be viable truth seeing how there is no patch for console in sight and games like Tekken receive patch support without the community even asking for it sometimes while SC4 has needed one for ages and not only do we still not get one but instead we get SC:BD in portable form with no major changes that would justify the $40.00 price point when the game itself is more of a patch that the community has been asking for with some minor new editions.

Ex 2: 23+ GI window equals provided info. The feedback that is given is that Hilde's C3B is gonna be broken. Is this not true and respectable feedback even if its true. This means there is no need for a fast and slow option because its entirely safe and damaging so stalling it makes no difference so essentially u have a free 104-Damage tool post GI as well. Its good to know that providing the info with no logical feedback is how things should be presented. Nice unity!

Ex 3: Mentioning such and such characters that have recieved noticeable buffs is fine! But mentioning that Hilde has received substantial major major buffs is complaining right! Apparently that seems to be the case here.

All the above is in regards to trying to find out where the "supposed when I read the first half of the initial post I saw where it was going thing".

Finally addressing the feedback that I gave about Hilde on the bottom of the post. Apparently safe, +Frame, Guard breaking, high damaging tools everywhere now, free C3B in GI window, better stepping system for better placement, some fully tracking outside of some messed up hitbox issues etc. are not above and beyond similar unsafe tools that do not give the above advantages. I guess when people run into the exact same issues again while calling them out in the beginning is gonna be a reoccurence. Hot!

So basically what I have learned is as a competitor in this game is to process and read information and break it down appropriately for your own benefit because all u get when u try to support the community in return is people who don't understand the meaning of bitching/complaining and misinterpret anything negative about the game as bitching/complaining.

Noted just continue to place high in tournaments to fulfill that competitive thirst and make money and continue to live life in the real world since I lose nothing by doing nothing for the community since the real world fulfills social needs among other obvious things.

This message is tailored towards the idiots whom apparently fit in this message window. Those who do not do not be offended.

Silent Wall:

Your welcome! Also it seems Dampierre's 11B fits in the new GI window. Hahaha
 
The short list of impressions I got after many hours with the game this past weekend:

The damage on SOME characters is too high.

Overall, some of the changes are strange/bad, and some are good. The good outweigh the strange/bad.

My feelings are mixed. I'm very afraid the characters with good damage and launchers will turn their basic gameplay into a fish-for-launchers into half bar kind of game. I don't want to see that; but, if that does happen, I'll always have Tekken (where that's the whole game, and its better built for it, imo)

I'm going to "wait and see". I suggest before we all draw conclusions, we wait and see too.

-Idle
 
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