Setsuka Low Safety

Angrel-San

Angrel-San

[10] Knight
I'm making this thread to see the various situations and how low pushblock helps Setsuka. Should I put 2A+B corner safety in particular?

Yoda:

2A+B-AA, FCA, 6B, 1B, 4B

2K-Safe

FCK-Safe

11A-FCA, 1B

11K-FCA, 1A, 1B

1A-AA, 6A, 3A, 2A, FCA, 4A, BB, 6B, 3BB, 2B, FCB, 1B, 4B, JPB, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, FCK, A+B B, A+K

1AA-First hit block, 2nd hit passes him over. Open.

1A:A-First hit block, 2nd hit passes him over. Open.


Vader:

2A+B-FCA

2K-Safe

FCK-Safe

11A-FCA, FCA+B

11K-FCA, 4B, FCB, WRK, FCK, FCA+B

1A-6A, 4AA, WRA, WRaG, FCA, 6B, 6BbG, 1B, 4B, WRB, FCB, 6K, 1K, WRK, FCK, JPK, 4A+B, 4B+K, WRB+K, FCA+B, 33A, 99A, 11AB, 44B, 66K, 44B+K, 66A+K, 33A+K, 99A+K,

1AA-AA, 6A, 3A, 4AA, FCA, B, 6B, 6BbG, 3B, 2B, 1B, 4B, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 1K, 4K, JPK, A+B, 2A+B, 4A+B, B+K B, 3B+K, 4B+K, 44B, 66K, 66A+K, 33A+K, 99A+K

1A:A-6A, B, 3B, 4B, 4K, A+B, 2A+B, 4A+B, B+K, 3B+K, A+K A, 66A+K, 33A+K, 99A+K


Starkiller:

2A+B-Safe

2K-FCA

FCK-Safe

11A-FCA, 6BBK, FCB, WRK, FCK

11K-FCA, WRB, 6BBK, 4B, FCB, WRK, FCK, 8K:A

1A-AA, 6A, 4A, WRA, FCA, JPA, BB, 6B, 1B, 4B, WRB, FCB, JPB, K, 6K, 4K, WRK, FCK, 8K:A, B+K series, 66AB, 44A, 66B, 33BB, 44B, 66K, 11K, 66A+B

1AA-AA, 6A, 4A, BB, 3B, 2B, 1B, 4B, 236B, JPB, K, 6K, 1KKK, 4K, JPK, A+B, 2B+K, 2B+K JF series, 66AB, 44A, 66B, 33BB, 44B, 66K, 11K, 66A+B

1A:A-6A, 3B, 4B, A+B, 66AB, 44A, 66K, 66A+B


Lizardman:

2A+B-Safe

2K-FCA

FCK-FCA (range dependent)

11A-FCA, WRB, FCB, 4K, 66K, FCK

11K-FCA, 6B, WRB, FCB, 4K, 66K, WRK, FCK

1A-AA, 6A, 3A, 4A, WRA, FCA, JPA, BB, 6B, 2BK, 1B, 4B, WRB, FCB, JPB, K, 3K, WRK, FCK, JPK, 4B+K, 66A, 33A, 22A, 88A, 44AB, 66K, 44K, 66A+B, 33A+B, 66B+K

1AA-AA, 6A, 3A, 2A, 4A, BB, 6B, 3B, 2B, 1B, 4B, K, 3K, 2K, 66A, 33A, 44AB, 33B, 33A+B

1A:A-4A, 6B, 1B, 66A, 33B


Sophitia:

2A+B-WRA, 236B, WRB, 44K,

2K-FCA, 236B

FCK-FCA, 236B

11A-WRA, FCA, 236B, WRB, FCB, FC1B, 6K, 66K, 44K, WRK, FCK

11K-236AA, WRA, FCA, 236B, WRB, FCB, FC1B, 6K, 66K, 44K, WRK, FCK

1A-AA, AK, 6A, 4A, 236AA, WRA, FCA, JPA, BB, BK, 6B, 2B, 1B, 4B, 236B, WRB, FCB, FC1B, JPB, K, 6K, 3K, 4K, WRK, FCK, JPK, WRA+B, 3A+B, 66B+K, 4B+K, WRB+K, 66A, 22A, 88A, 66K, 22K, 44K, 66B+K

1AA-AA, AK, 6A, 3A, 2A, 236AA, 4A, 4AB, BB, BK, B2 series, 6B, 3B, 2B, 2B 8B series, 236B, 1B, 4B, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 236K, 1K, 4K, JPK, 3A+B, 4B+K, 66A, 22A, 88A, 44B, 66K, 22K, 44K, 66A+B

1A:A-3A, 236AA, 4A, 4AB, 6B, 3B, 236B, 4B, 236K, 1K, 66A, 22A, 88A, 44B, 44K, 66A+B


Amy:

2A+B-6BB, FCK

2K-FCA

FCK-FCA (range dependent)

11A-FCA, 66B, FCB, FCK

11K-FCA, 66B, FCB, WRK, FCK, FCA+B A

1A-AA, AB, 6A, 3A, 1A, 4A, WRA, FCA (range dependent), BB, 6BB, 1B, 4BB, WRB, FCB, FC3B, FC1B, K, 6K, 3K, 1KA, 4K, WRK, JPK, FCK, FCA+B A, 6B+K, 2B+K, 88A, 11A, 66BA, 66B JF, 33B, 66K, 22K, 8WR A+B, 66B+K

1AA-AA, AB, 6A, 3A, 2A, 1A, 4A, BB, 6BB, 3BA, 2B, 1B, 4BB, 6K, 3K, 2K, 1K, 4K, 6B+K, 22A, 66BA, 66B JF, 33B, 66K, 66B+K

1A:A-1A, 4A, 6BB (2nd hit and range dependent), 4BB, 6K, 6B+K, 22A, 66BA, 66B JF, 33B, 66K, 66B+K


Setsuka:

2A+B-WRA, FCA, FC3aB, 66BA, FC3B:B, WRK, FCK

2K-FCA, FC3aB

FCK-FCA (range dependent) , FC3aB

11A-FCA, FC3aB, 6B, 66BA, FCB, FC3B:B, 6K, WRK, FCK

11K-FCA, FC3aB, 6B, 66BA, WRB, FCB, FC3B:B, 6K, WRK, FCK

1A-AA, 6AA, 1A, WRA, FCA, FC3aB, BB, 6B, 4B, WRB, FCB, FC3B:B, JPB, K, 3K, WRK, FCK, JPK, FC3A+B, 66A, 44AA, 66BA, 33B, 22BB, 44BA, 66K, 22K, 22A+B A, 66B+K, 44B+K

1AA-AA, aB, agB JF, 6AA, 3A, 2A, 1A, WRA, FC3aB, JPA, BB, bA, 6B (range dependent) , 3B, 2B, 1B JF, 4B, WRB, FC3B:B, JPB, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 1K, 4K, JPK, B+K, 2B+K, A+K A, 66A, 22A, 44AA, 66BA, 33B, 22BB, 44BA, 66K, 22K, 22A+B A, 66B+K, 44B+K

1A:A-aB, 6AA, WRA, FC3aB, JPA, bA, 3B, WRB, FC3B:B, 1K, 4K, B+K, A+K A, 66A, 22A, 44AA, 66BA, 33B, 44BA, 66K, 22K, 22A+B A, 66B+K, 44B+K (range dependent)


Mitsurugi:

2A+B-WRB, FCB

2K-FCA, WRK

FCK-Safe

11A-FCA, WRB, FCB, 66K, WRK, FCK

11K-FCA, 6B A+G/B+G, WRB, FCB, FC1BB, 66K, WRK, FCK

1A-AA, 6A, 3A, 2A, 4A, FCA, WRA, JPA, B6, 6B A+G/B+G, 2B, 236B, FCB, FC3B, FC1BB, WRB, JPB, K, 6K, 3K, 2KB, 1K, 4KB, FCK, WRK, JPK, 66A, 22A, 44A, 66BB, 22B, 11BA, 66K, 22K, 22B+K

1AA-AA, 6A, 3A, 2A, 4A, FCA, BB, B6, bA, 6B A+G/B+G, 3B, 2B, 1B, 236B, K, kB, 6K, 3K, 2KB, 1K, 4KB, FCK, JPK, a+b6, 66A, 44A, 66BB, 11BA, 66K, 22K

1A:A-6A, 4A, BB (range dependent), B6, bA, 1B, kB, 4KB, 66BB, 11BA, 22K (range dependent)


Cassandra:

2A+B-236B, 236 [ B ]

2K-FCA, 236B, 2A+G, 2B+G

FCK-FCA (range dependent), 236B, 2A+G, 2B+G

11A-FCA, FCB, 236B, 236 [ B ], FCK, 2A+G, 2B+G

11K-66A, WRA, FCA, 236AB, 4BBA JF, 44B, FC3B, 236B, FCB, 236 [ B ], 6K, 66K, FCK, 4B+K, 2A+G, 2B+G

1A-AA, AK, 6AA, 3AK, FCA, 4A, WRA, 236A, JPA, BB, 6B, 3B, 2B, 2B 8B series, 1B, 4BBA JF, FCB, FC3B, FC1B, WRB, 236B, 236[ B ], JPB, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 4K, FCK, WRK, JPK B (range dependent) , 4B+K, 4A+K, JPA+K, 66A, 22A, 66B, 22B, 44B, 66K, 33K, 66A+B

1AA-AA, AK, 6AA, 3AK, 2A, FCA, 4A, 236AB, BB, 6B, 3B, 2B, 2B 8B series, 1B, 4BBA JF, 236B, 236 [ B ], JPB (range dependent), K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 4K, 4B+K, 4A+K, 66A, 22A, 66B (range dependent), 22B, 44B, 66K, 33K, 66A+B

1A:A-236AB, 6B, 1B (range dependent), 236B, 236 [ B ], 6K, 4B+K (range dependent), 4A+K, 66A, 66K (range dependent), 66A+B


Raphael:

2A+B-FCB, FCK

2K-FCA

FCK-FCA (range dependent)

11A-FCA, FCB, FCK

11K-FCA, WRB, FCB, FCK

1A-AA, AB, 6A, 2A, 4A, FCA, WRA, BB, 6BB, 3B, 2B, 1B, 4B, FCB, FC3B, WRB, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 4K, FCK, WRK, JPK, 8A+B, 6B+K, 66A, 22AA, 22B, 66K, 33KB, 22K, 44K

1AA-AA, AB, 6A, 3A, 2A, 4A, BB, 6BB, 3B, 2B, 1B, 4B, 236B, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 1K, 4K, 8A+B, 6B+K, 66A, 66B, 22B, 66K, 33KB, 22K, 44K

1A:A-A, 4A, BB, 6BB, 3B, 1B, 4B, 236B, 2K (range dependent) , 1K, 66A, 66B, 22B, 66K, 44K


Taki:

2A+B-WRK, FCK

2K-FCA

FCK-Safe

11A-FCA, 6B (range dependent), FCB, WRK, FCK, FC1A+B

11K-WRA, FCA, 6B, WRB, FCB, 6K, 66K, WRK, FCK, FC1A+B

1A-AA, AB, A6, 6A, 3A, 2A, 4A, FCA, WRAA, JPA, BA, BB, 6B, 3bK, 2BA, 1BA, FCB, WRB, JPB, KK, 6KA, 3KK, 2K, 1K, 4K, FCK, JPK, FC1A+B, FCA+K, 66A, 33A, 44A, 66B:A, 33B, 22B, 66K, 33K, 22K, 11K

1AA-AA, AB, A6, 6A, 3A, 4A, JPA, BA (range dependent) , BB (range dependent), 6B, 3bK, 2BA, 1BA, JPB, KK, k2, 6KA, 3KK, 2K, 1K, 4K, JPK, 66A, 33A, 44A, 66B:A, 33B, 22B, 66K, 33K, 22K, 11K

1A:A-6A (range dependent), 3A (range dependent), 4A, 6B, 3bK (range dependent), 1BA (range dependent), JPB (range dependent), 6KA (range dependent), 2K (range dependent), 4K (range dependent), 66A, 33A, 44A, 66B:A, 33B, 22B, 66K, 11K (range dependent)


Siegfried:

2A+B-WRK, FCK

2K-Safe

FCK-Safe

11A-WRK, FCK

11K-WRA, WRB, WRK, FCK

1A-6A, 4A, FCA, WRA, B6, FCB, WRB, K, 6K, 3K, 1K, 4K, FCK, WRK, JPK (range dependent), 33B, 11B (range dependent), 66K,

1AA-AA, agA, 6A, 3A, 2A, 4A, B6, 3B, 2B, K, 6K, 3K, 2KK, 1K, 4K, A+B, A+K A, 33B, 11B, 66K

1A:A-AA (range dependent), agA, 3A (range dependent), 2A (range dependent), B6, 3B, 2B (range dependent), 4K (range dependent), A+K A (range dependent), 33B, 11B


Nightmare:

2A+B-WR [ B ] (range dependent) , WRK (range dependent), FCK

2K-Safe

FCK-Safe

11A-WR [ B ], WRK, FCK

11K-FCA, WRA, WR [ B ], 66K, WRK, FCK

1A-6A, WRA, 6BB JF, FCB, FC3B, WR [ B ], K, 6K, 3K, 4K, FCK, WRK, JPK, 33B, 66K, 11K, GSA

1AA-AA, aB, agA, 6A, BB, bA, 6BB JF, 3B, 2B, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 1K, 4K, JPK, 2A+B, A+K, 33B, 66K, 11K, GSA

1A:A-aB, agA, 6A, BB, 6BB JF, 3B, 2B, 33B, 11K, GSA


Hilde:

2A+B-Safe

2K-FCA

FCK-FCA (range dependent)

11A-FCA, WRK, FCK

11K-FCA, 66K, WRK, FCK, FC CH1 A

1A-AA, 6A, 2A, 4A, FCA, WRA, JPA (range dependent), 6BB, 2B, 4B, FCB, WRB, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 4K, FCK, WRK, 8K, 6A+B, WRA+B, 4B+K, 6A+K, 66A, 66K, 33K, 22KA, 44K, FCC1A, FCC2A, FCC3A, FCC1B, FCC2B, FCC3B

1AA-AA, 6A, 3A, 2A, 1A, 6BB, 3BA, 3BB, 2B, 4B, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 1K, 4K, 8K, A+B, 2B+K, 4B+K, 22A, 66K, 33K, C1A, C2A, C3A, C1B, C2B, C3B

1A:A-6A (range dependent) , 3A (range dependent), 6BB, 3B (range dependent), A+B, 4B+K, 22A, 66K, 33K, C1A, C3A, C1B, C2B, C3B


Maxi:

2A+B-WRB, FCB, FCK

2K-FCA

FCK-FCA (range dependent)

11A-FCA, WRB, FCB, FCK

11K-FCA, 6BB, 4B, WRB, FCB, FCK, WRA+B

1A-AA, 6A, 2A, 4AB, FCA, WRA, JPA, 6BB, 2B, 1B, 4B, FCB, WRB, K, 6K, 3K, 1K, 4K, FCK, WRKK, A+B, a+bG, 6A+B, WRA+B, 66A, 33A, 44AB, 66B, 66B4, 22B, 66K, 33K

1AA-AA, aK, 6A, 3A, 2A, JPA, BB, 6BB, 3B, 2B, 1B, 4B, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 1K, 4K, A+B, a+bG, 6A+B, B+K series, 2B+K, 66A, 33A, 44AB, 66B, 66B4, 22B, 66K, 33K

1A:A-6A, JPA (range dependent), 4B, 6K (range dependent), B+K series (range dependent), 33A, 66B, 66B4, 22B (range dependent), 66K



Voldo:

2A+B-66B, FCK

2K-FCA

FCK-FCA

11A-FCA, 66B, FCK

11K-FCA, 66B, FCB, FC3B, WRK, FCK

1A-AA, 6A, 3A, 2A, FCA, WRA, JPA, BB, 6B, 4BA, FCB, FC3B, WR [ B ], JPB, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 4 [ K ], FCK, WR[ K ], JPK, FC3A+B, B+K, FC3A+K, 22A, 44A, 66B, 66K, 11K, 66A+B, 66A+B K, CRAA, CRB, CRA+B, CRB+K

1AA-AA, aB, 6A, 3A, 2A, 4A, BB, 6B, 3BB, 2B, 4BA, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 1 [ K ], 4[ K ], JPK, A+B, B+K, 22A, 44A, 66B, 66K, 66A+B, 66A+B K, CRAA, CRB

1A:A-aB (range dependent) , 6A, 3A, 4A, 6B (range dependent), 3BB, 4BA (range dependent), 1 [ K ] , JPK (range dependent), B+K (range dependent), 22A, 44A, 66B, 66K, 66A+B, 66A+B K, CRAA, CRB


Tira:

2A+B-Safe

2K-FCA

FCK-FCA

11A-FCA, FCB, FCK

11K-FCA, Jolly 66AA, Gloomy 66B, WRB, FCB, WRK, FCK

1A-Jolly: AA, 6A, 4A, FCA, WRA, JPA, BB, 6B, 6B8, 3B, 2B, 1B, FCB, WRB, K, 6K, 2K, FCK, WRK, JPK, 4B+K, 66AA, 22B, 66K, 33K, 22K, 11K, 44K

Gloomy: AA, 6A series, 2A, 4A, 666A, FCA, WRA, JPA, BB, 6B, 6B8, 2B, 1B, 4B, FCB, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 666K, 444K, FCK, WRK, JPK, A+B, 4B+K, 66A, 22A, 66B, 88B, 66K, 33K, 22K, 11K, 44K

1AA-Jolly: AA, 6A, 3A, 2A, 4A, JPA, BB, 6B, 6B8, 3B, 2B, 1B, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 1K, A+B, 4B+K, 66AA, 44A, 22B, 66K, 33K, 22K, 11K, 44K

Gloomy: AA, 6A series, 3A, 2A, 4A, 666A, JPA, BB, 6B, 6B8, 3B, 2B, 1B, 4B, 666B, K, 6K, 3K, 3kA, 2K, 1K, 666K, 444K, A+B, 4B+K, 66A, 22A, 66B, 88B, 66K, 33K, 22K, 11K, 44K

1A:A-Jolly: 6A (range dependent), 2A, 6B, 6K, 1K (range dependent), A+B, 4B+K (range dependent), 66AA

Gloomy: 666A, 6B, 6K, 3kA, 666K, A+B, 4B+K, 66A, 22A, 88B, 66K


Xianghua:

2A+B-6B, 4K, 66K, WRK, FCK

2K-2A+G, 2B+G

FCK-2A+G, 2B+G

11A-66K, WRK, FCK, 2A+G, 2B+G

11K-66B, 66K, WRK, FCK, JPK, 6B+K, 66B+K, 2A+G, 2B+G

1A-AA, 6A, 2A, 4A, FCA, WRA, JPA, BB, 6B, 2B, 4B, FCB, FC3B, JPB, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 4K, FCK, WRK, JPK, 6A+B, 6B+K, 66A, 33A, 22A, 66B, 33B, 22B, 11B, 66K, 33K, 44K, 44A+B, 66B+K

1AA-AA, aK, 6A, 2A, BB, bK, 6B, 3B, 1B, K, 6K, 2K, 4K, JPK, A+B, 6A+B, 6B+K, 3B+K, 66A, 33A, 22A, 33B, 22B, 11B, 66K, 33K, 44K, 44A+B, 66B+K,

1A:A-aK, 6B (range dependent), 3B, 1B, JPK (range dependent), A+B (range dependent), 6A+B, 66A, 22B, 66K, 33K, 44A+B, 66B+K (range dependent)


Kilik:

2A+B-66B, FCK

2K-Safe

FCK-Safe

11A-66B, WRK, FCK

11K-66B, WR3B, WRK, FCK

1A-6AA, FCA, WRA, 6B, 6B8, 6B2, 46B, FCB, FC3B, WRB, K, 6K, 2K, 4KB, FCK, JPK, 6A+B, FCA+B, 6B+K, 22A, 66B, 22B

1AA-AA, 6AA, 1A, B, 6B, 6B8, 6B2, 3B, 2B, 46B, kB, 3kB, 2K, 4KB, JPK, A+B, 6A+B, 66B, 22B

1A:A-6B, 6B2, 3B (range dependent), 2B, kB, 3kB, A+B, 6A+B


Astaroth:

2A+B-Safe

2K-2A+G, 2B+G

FCK-2A+G, 2B+G

11A-4B, FCK, 2A+G, 2B+G

11K-4B, 6K, 66K, WRK, FCK, 2A+G, 2B+G

1A-6A, 4A, FCA, 6B, 4B, FCB, WRB, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 4K, FCK, FC3K, WRK, 4A+B, 6B+K, 33A, 22AA, 44A, 66B, 66K, 66K_33K

1AA-AB, 6A, 3A, 2A, 4A, FCA, B, 6B, 4B, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 4K, 3A+B, 4A+B, B+K, 6B+K, 2B+K, 66A, 33A, 22AA, 44A, 66B, 66K, 66K_33K

1A:A-AB, 2A (range dependent), 4A, FCA, B, 6B, 6K (range dependent), 4A+B, B+K, 6B+K, 44A (range dependent) , 66B, 66K


Ivy:

2A+B-FCK

2K-Sword 6B

FCK-Sword 6B (range dependent)

11A-Sword FCA, Sword 6B, Sword FCB, FCK, WRK

11K-Whip FCA, Whip FCB, Sword 6A, Sword WRA, Sword FCA, Sword 6B, Sword WRB, Sword FCB, Sword 22B, 4K, FCK, WRK, WRA+B

1A-Coiled: AA, 6A, 2A, FCA, WRA, B, 6B, 4B, 236BB, 214B, FCB, WRB, JgB, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 4K, FCK, WRK, WRA+B, 66A, 22A, 66B, 33B (mash), 66K, 44K

Sword: AA, 6A, 2A, 1A, 4A, FCA, WRA, BB, 6 [ B ] , 6B8 K, 2B, 4B, FCB, FC3B, WRB, JgB, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 1K, 4K,214K, FCK, WRK, WRA+B, 66B, 33B, 22B, 66K

Whip: AA, 6A, 3A, 4A, FCA, WRA, 6B, 2B, FCB, FC3B, WRBB, JgB, K, 6K, 2K, 4K, FCK, WRK, WRA+B, 6B+K, 66B, 66K, 44K

1AA-Coiled: AA, 6A, 3A, 2A, B, 6B, 3B, 2B, 1B B+K, 4B, 236BB, 214B, JgB, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 1K, 4K, A+B, 66A, 22A, 66B, 33B (mash) , 66K

Sword: AA, 6A, 3A, 2A, 4A, BB, 6 [ B ], 6B8 K, 3B, 2B, 4B, JgB, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 1K, 4K, 214K, 66A, 66B, 33B, 22B, 66K

Whip: AA, 6A, 3A, 2A, 4A, B, 6B, 3 [ B ], 2B, JgB, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 1K, 4K, A+B, 66B, 33 [ B ], 66K, 44K

1A:A-Coiled: 6A, B, 6B, 3B (range dependent), 2B, 1B B+K, 4B, 236BB (range dependent), 214B, 6K, 66A, 22A, 33B (mash) , 66K (range dependent)

Sword: 4A (range dependent), JgB, 6K, 22B (range dependent)

Whip: AA, 6A, 3A, 2A, 4A, 6B, 3 [ B ], 2B, JgB, 6K, 66B, 33 [ B ], 66K


Yunsung:

2A+B-WRB

2K-FCA

FCK-FCA (range dependent)

11A-FCA, FCB, 4K, FCK

11K-FCA, FCB, 4K, WRK, FCK

1A-AA, 6 [ A ], 2A, 4A, FCA, WR [ A ], JPA, BB, 6 [ B ], 2BK, 4BK, FCB, WRB, JPB, KK, 6K, 3[ K ], 4K, 236KK, FCK, WRK, JPKKK JF, 6A+B, 66A, 33AK, 22A, 66K, 33 [ K ], 11K, 44K

1AA-AA, 6 [ A ], 3A, 2A, 1A, 4A, BB, 6 [ B ], 3B, 2BK, 4BK, JPB, KK, 6K, 3 [ K ], 2K, 1K, 4K, 236KK, JPKKK JF, A+B B (mash), 6A+B, 66A, 33AK, 22A, 66K, 33 [ K ], 11K, 44K

1A:A-6 [ A ] (range dependent), 3A, 4A, 6 [ B ], 3B, JPB, 1K, 236KK, A+B B (mash), 6A+B, 66A, 33AK, 66K (range dependent), 11K (range dependent), 44K


Mina:

2A+B-4B, WRK, FCK

2K-FCA

FCK-FCA (range dependent)

11A-6A, FCA, WRK, FCK

11K-6A, FCA, WRK, FCK, JPK

1A-6AK, FCA, WRA, 6B, 3B, 3bK, 1B, 4B, FCB, FC1B, WRB, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 4K, FCK, WRK, JPK, 6A+B, 4A+B, 8A+B, 6B+K, 8B+K, 9B+K, 66A, 22A, 66B, 33B, 66K, 33K

1AA-AA, B, 6B, 3B, 2B, 1B, 4B, 6K, 2K, 1K, 4K, JPK, 8A+B, 6B+K, 8B+K, 9B+K, 66A, 22A, 66B, 33B, 66K, 33K

1A:A-B, 6B (range dependent), 3B (range dependent), 2B (range dependent), 8A+B (range dependent), 9B+K, 66A, 22A, 66B, 33B (range dependent), 66K (range dependent)


Rock:

2A+B-Safe

2K-2A+G, 2B+G

FCK-2A+G, 2B+G

11A-FCK, 2A+G, 2B+G

11K-6K, WRK, FCK, FC3K, 2A+G, 2B+G

1A-6A, FCA, 6B, 4B, FCB, K, 6K, 2K, 4K, FCK, FC3K, WRK, 6A+B, 4A+B, 6B+K, 22A, 44A, 66B, 33B

1AA-A, 6A, 3A, 2A, 6B, 3B, 1B, 4B, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 1K, 4K, 6A+B, 4A+B, 44A, 66B, 33B

1A:A-A, 2A (range dependent), 6B, 3B (range dependent), 1B, 6K (range dependent), 1K, 4A+B, 44A (range dependent), 66B


Cervantes:

2A+B-FCA, FCK

2K-Safe

FCK-Safe

11A-FCA, FCB, WRK, FCK

11K-WRA, FCA, 66B, FCB, 66K, WRK, FCK

1A-AA, aB, aK, 6A, 2A, 4A, FCA, WRA, JPA, BB, B2, 6B, 6 [ B ], 4B, FCB, WRBB, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 4K, FCK, WRK, JPK, 6A+B B (range dependent), 3A+B, 2A+B, FCA+B B (mash), 66A, 66B, 33B, 66K, 22K, 66A+B, iGDR

1AA-AA, aB, aK, 6A, 2A, 4A, BB, bA, B2, 6B, 3B, 2B, 4B, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 1K, 4K, JPK, A+B, 6A+B B, 3A+B, 2A+B, 2B+K, 66A, 66B, 33B, 66K, iGDR

1A:A-aB, 4A (range dependent), 3B, 2B, 4K (range dependent), 66A, 66B, 33B, 66K (range dependent), iGDR


Talim:

2A+B-FCA (range dependent), WRB, FCB, FC3B, FCK

2K-FCA, WRB

FCK-FCA, WRB (range dependent)

11A-FCA, 6B, WRB, FCB, FC3B, 6K, WRK, FCK

11K-WRA, FCA, 6B, WRB, FCB, FC3B, 6K, WRK, FCK

1A-AA, 6AK, 3A, 2A, 4A, FCA, WRA, JPA, BB, 6B, 2B, 1B, 4B, 236B, FCB, FC3B, WRB, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 4K, FCK, WRK, JPK, 6A+B, 1A+B, 4A+B, WRA+B, 66A, 33A, 22A, 44A, 66B, 33B6B, 22K, 44K

1AA-AA, 6AK, 3A, 2A, 4A, JPA, BB, 6B, 2B, 1B, 4B, K, 6K, 3K, 2K, 1K, 2A+B, 1A+B, A+K, 66A, 33A, 22A, 44A, 66B (range dependent), 33B6B, 22K, 44K

1A:A-6AK, 4B, 2A+B (range dependent), A+K (range dependent), 33A (range dependent), 22A, 66B, 22K (range dependent), 44K


Yoshimitsu:

2A+B-FCB

2K-FCA, FCa:B

FCK-Safe

11A-FCA, FCa:B, FCB

11K-WRA, FCA, FCa:B, 6B, FCB

1A-AA, a:B+K, 6A, 3A, 2A, 4AAA, 4AAAAA JF, FCA, FCaB, WRA, BB, bA, 6B, 3B, 2B, 4B, FCB, WRB, JPB, K, 6K2K, 3K, 2K, 4KB, FC3K, FCK, FC1KKK, WRK, JPK, 6A+BB, 6A+K, 66A, 66B, 33B[ B+K ] A+B, 44bB, 66K, 33K

1AA-AA, a:B+K, 6A, 3A, 2A, 4AAA, 4AAAAA JF, BB, bA, 6B, 3B, 2B, 1B, K, 6K2K, 3K, 2K, 4KB, JPK, 6A+BB, 3[ A+B ], 2A+B, 3B+K, 6A+K, 66A, 33B[ B+K ] A+B, 44bB, 66K

1A:A-6A (range dependent), 1B, 4KB, 3[ A+B ], 3B+K, 66A (range dependent), 44bB


Zasalamel:

2A+B-FCB, FCB4, FCK

2K-FCA

FCK-FCA

11A-FCA, 4B, FCB, FCB4, FCK

11K-FCA, 4B, FCB, FCB4, FCK

1A-AA, 6A, 2A, 4A, FCA, WRA, WRA4, BB, BB4, bK, bK JF, 6BA, 2B, 2B4, 1BB, 4B, FCB, FCB4, FC3B, WRB, WRB6, KK, 6kB, 3K, 2K, 1K, 4K, FCK, WRK, JPK, 6A+B, 6B+K, 4B+K, 22A, 44A, 66B, 22B, 44B, 44B4, 66K, 22KK, 66A+B

1AA-AA, 6A, 3AB, 2A, 4A, BB, BB4, bK, bK JF, 6BA, 3B, 3B4, 2B, 2B4, 1BB, 4B, KK, 6kB, 3K, 2K, 1K, 4K, JPK, 6A+B, 6B+K, 22A, 44A, 66BB, 22B, 44B, 44B4, 66K, 66A+B

1A:A-4A, 6BA, 6A+B, 6B+K, 44A, 66BB, 22B, 44B, 44B4, 66A+B


Algol:

2A+B-FCA, FC3B, 6KK

2K-FCA

FCK-FCA

11A-FCA, FC3B, WRK, WR [ K ], FCK

11K-FCA, FCB, FC3B, WRK, WR [ K ], FCK

1A-AA, 6AAB, 2A, 4AA, 623ABK, FCA, WRA, JPA, BB, 6BB, 2B, 4B A+B, FCB, FC3B, FC8B, WRB, K, K6, 6KK, 3K, 2K, 4K, FCK, WRK, WR [ K ], 6A+B, 8A+B, FCA+B, 2B+K, 66A, 44A, 66BA, 33B, 11B, 44B, 66K, 22K, 11K, 66A+B

1AA-AA, aB, 6AAB, 2A, 4AA, 623ABK, BB, 6BB, 3BB, 3B 41236 B, 2B, 1B, 4B A+B, K, K6, 6KK, 3K, 2K, 1K, 4K, A+B, 8A+B, 2B+K, 66A, 66BA, 11B, 44B, 22K, 88K, 11K, 66A+B

1A:A-AA (range dependent), aB, 6AAB, 4A, 623ABK (range dependent), BB, 3BB, 3B 41236 B, 2B, 1B, 4B (range dependent), K6, A+B (range dependent), 66A, 11B, 44B, 88K (range dependent), 11K, 66A+B
 
That's a lot of work! I'd help out with this but won't be able to do anything until Saturday
 
ill help with info made from asta punishment thread. (only listing strongest stuff)

asta:

2a+b - completely safe!
2k - low grab
11k - low grab / bullrush,
11a - low grab / 2k
1aa - 63214:b+g / 66b
1a:a - 3b, 2a+k (combo)
 
Lizzy gets FC A, FC K, 4K, 6A or wsB after a blocked Sets 2A+B. Hardly "safe."

And Amy gets 6B,B off of ANY blocked Sets low.

There's not much point to testing this stuff in game when you can just read the moves that will hit right off of a frame data list.

Oh, and it'd be nice if you just updated the first post or two with the subsequent data. That way, it wouldn't be hard to insert a new run of it alphabetically just by editting the post.

This thread is already on it's way to be a huge mess otherwise.
 
I forgot to mention that 2A+B is being tested in mid fields where pushblock is a factor. I thought that was of common knowledge already. Should I put the unsafe part in corners too?

And Rico, you're wrong. Lizardman doesn't get that of 2A+B unless in corners. And Amy doesn't get 6BB from all her lows (2K, FCK, 11A and 11K). Try it yourself.

And another thing, frame data doesn't take into account pushblock. That's one of the reasons why I'm doing this. Perfect example is the 1AA to 1A:A where mid has pushblock so punishment varies.

I'll take your suggestion for editing.
 
Updated the first post.

Finished Mitsurugi and Cassandra and started filling some others.

Will try to finish this weekend.
 
Sorry, guy. I forgot about the extended TC frames AFTER a blocked 2A+B.

And yeah, now that I think about it, I remember Amy's 6B,B whiffing over my head a couple of times after blocked lows.

Personally, I don't think you need to put in which moves will only hit in corners. Just so long as you point out in the main post that if an obvious retaliatory move isn't on the list, it's probably because it's whiffs due to pushback or post-block TC frames.

Sorry if I sounded like a douche in my post. This is good info and I appreciate the work. I've always thought that Sets' lows in general aren't THAT unsafe and a lot of this data is backing up that belief.
 
Good work, while Setsuka's lows aren't THAT good, they're not to be forgotten.

You should rename the topic : Setsuka low study, we can manage to put good infos/tips here !

11A is pretty spamable by itself (reward >>> risk), and FC 2K is kinda good.

2A+B can be used on various characters since : it does decent damage on the CF jauge, the reward can be way better than the risk (against Nightmare or Hilde as an exemple).

11K can be used on wakes, I often do 236~1K when my opponent is OTG, it has deceiptive range and animation, create some mix up/frame trap on hit with JF umbrella and 236~A+K B, leads to GI setups and once they learned not to hit back creates throws setups.
 
Not a bad idea Maxou.

Go on ahead!!! Any tips are welcome.

Data complete for Yoda, Vader, Starkiller, Lizardman, Sophitia, Amy, Setsuka, Mitsurugi and Cassandra.

Will take a break and continue later. Need food, LOL!
 
Are you sure Mina's WRK will punish 11A? My friend and I tested it yesterday and I was able to block every time.
 
Well 11A is -15~16 (range dependent) according to the data and Mina wsK is i16 I believe so that could be why you're getting different results. 11A simply has different recovery at different ranges.
 
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