Sonic the Hedgehog Thread

KnightWarrior

KnightWarrior

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This is for the Classic Sonic Games..like on the Genesis, Game Gear, Master System & Dreamcast

Sonic Adventure was the Bomb on the Dreamcast

Still a great game
 
Lulz @ CY not being the one to make this thread.

Seems as though in this day and age, if the Sonic game is not on the DS, there is going to be a big issue somewhere in the game (it's going to suck one way or another).

The top Sonic games of this gen have only been on DS.

Sonic Rush, Sonic Rush Adventure, and Sonic Chronicles (those who whine about the concept of a Sonic RPG should keep their mouths shut if they even remotely enjoyed those Mario RPGs).

Sonic the Hedgehog (Next Gen) was a complete failure and Sega failed to fulfill more than half of the promises they made with that game when they announced it for the very first time many years back.

Sonic and the Secret Ring, Sonic Unleashed, and Sonic and the Black Knight were decent concepts that were executed in a very poor manner (which actually applies to just about every 3D game in the franchise, with the exception of Shadow the Hedgehog because the very concept was fucking retarded.)

Sonic team constantly short change themselves. They develop decent concepts and then fall flat face first on the execution IE the development of the actual game. Out of all the most recent home console Sonic games, Unleashed was the closest to greatness (though it still didn't achieve it). The Werehog stages killed the game.

Now, I'm not hating on the Werehog concept because I don't hate it. The concept was fine. It's just that the Werehog stages played like a half assed kiddy version of God of War. The main problem being that those stages were half assed.

Those that do whine about the werehog concept - If you want to call bullshit on a hedgehog changing into a werehog, then I'm going to call bullshit on a hedgehog being blue and running at the speed of sound. I'm also going to call bullshit on a elf suddenly being able to turn into a wolf. I'm also going to call bullshit on a plumber who never does his damn job and can breath in fucking space. Bottom line, all those concepts can EASILY be called retarded yet some are successful (because of the execution, NOT the base concept) so it's a waste of time to whine about something so dumb.

tl;dr verison:

DS Sonic Games = Win

Recent Home Console Sonic Games = Fail

Sonic Unleased = close but no cigar.
 
ShinobiBrown said:
Those that do whine about the werehog concept - If you want to call bullshit on a hedgehog changing into a werehog, then I'm going to call bullshit on a hedgehog being blue and running at the speed of sound.
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The problem with werehog is that "were" means man, which is why werewolf is a man-wolf. Sonic does not turn into a man-hog, so he really should be a hogwolf or wolfhog or something.

That aside, I find sonic to be a very boring character, though mario isn't very interesting either.
 
iKotomi said:
The problem with werehog is that "were" means man, which is why werewolf is a man-wolf. Sonic does not turn into a man-hog, so he really should be a hogwolf or wolfhog or something.
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If you want to get that technical, Sonic is already a were-hog considering he's anthropomorphic. Him turning into a "werehog" is just him growing hair and nails.
 
ShinobiBrown said:
If you want to get that technical, Sonic is already a were-hog considering he's anthropomorphic. Him turning into a "werehog" is just him growing hair and nails.
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If he starts as a werehog he doesn't transform into a werehog. That just doesn't make sense as long as we are using common English.

Sega was clearly not implying that Sonic is turning more man-like either, since humans have long lost excessive body hair and claws (there are probably a few still in the gene pool, but they are statistically insignificant). I am quite sure that Sega did not actually care what werehog means as long as it sounds like some well known monster that involves transformation.
 
iKotomi said:
Sega did not actually care what werehog means as long as it sounds like some well known monster that involves transformation.
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Pretty much.

KnightWarrior said:
Sega should go back to the old ways of Sonic Adventure 2 & Do Sonic Adventure 3
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They already tried that with Sonic the Hedgehog for PS3 and 360 and failed. Not to mention Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 weren't the end all be all Sonic games by any means. While they were decent, there were still loads of glitches and bugs that surfaced (just like the other 3D Sonic games). Thankfully, they weren't as severe as they are now.
 
I'm waiting for a certain fanboy negro to post here. No not CY. The negro who sold me on Unleashed. Sorry Wayne semi-bad or not I havta blaze through with sonic speed and custom soundtracks. -swoons-
 
mikosu said:
I'm waiting for a certain fanboy negro to post here. No not CY. The negro who sold me on Unleashed. Sorry Wayne semi-bad or not I havta blaze through with sonic speed and custom soundtracks. -swoons-
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HOLY SHIT ITS A SONIC THREAD.

...I mean, carry on.

EDIT: About another sonic adventure 3. I've never completely played through the game (sonic adventure 1/2) since I never had a gamecube/wii (yet) but I do know that people say that was what they tried to do for sonic 06, like shinobi said. Glicthy as much as it was broken, unleashed is a pretty good step up compared to that garbage...even though I liked said garbage.
 
weird, ive never really liked sonic....i just played the original for the awesome debug mode....
 
Sonic Adventure? That sounds like trouble. Not sure if Nem told me about this game. Anything special about it? -youtubes it-
 
As much as i liked the Sonic Adventure games, i didnt like the climax of there games where "O crap something went wrong on both Sonic and Ronbotnik's side. Lets team up and destroy that conflict together." The enemy is Robotnik, it should stay that way. >:) Other than that, the old school games and Sonic Rush are my favorites and even thou a lot of people didnt like it, i loved Sonic the Fighters (Dont hurt me. :p). :D

Also, just thought id pass that infomation along, google a site called Sonic Retro. If you want the old school sonic games with a new twist (Which you know Sega will never do), you've come to the right place. They even put Knuckles in Sonic 1 with all his moves. Quick recomendations.

[youtube=Knukles in Sonic 1]Ho5U3pDExI0[/youtube]

[youtube=Robotnik's Revenge]6whIRVwzu8I[/youtube]

[youtube=Sonic Megamix as Sonic]lapoO1cOqds[/youtube]
 
About sonic games in general though, I originally came in here and didn't read before posting. After reading about how the werehog's levels were half assed, it forced myself to realize the truth in that statement...and then I realized how little I cared. I never played god of war so I can't really compare the similarites and differences but even without the comparsion I can understand how some of the aspects of the werehog seems...lacking. Like in some (or most) of the stages when the only diffcultly that is presented is how well you can balance the manhog on a thin platform. Or the borderline RETARDED enemies that, with the exception of a few, are pathetic as hell (they will let you fully charge up an attack, about 7-9 seconds, in their face and willingly take the ohkobitchslap. Really?) Knowing all this though, I still enjoyed playing through the levels as it felt like a nice break from those day levels...I don't care what people say, those things can get stupid hard.

Also, about those DS games. Are they really that good? I haven't played any of those yet due to my attempt at completing unleashed/sonic mega collection stuff. I'll buy them eventually, but I'd like an opinion from someone.

+1 for knuckles in sonic1.
 
I LOVE the old sonic games, Sonic 3 is by far my favorite! I look at recent sonic games and think... What happened?

I had high hopes for the PS3/360 game but it was very disappointing. I don't even want to talk about "The Storybook Series" or "Sonic Unleashed"... The only good sonic game to come out in the past 4 years is "Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood" everything else is lazy garbage.
 
Knuckles: KTE is broke. Ban plz.

Revenge: More like Robotnik's Shame. He just can't win. Metal Sonic was sad too. Favorite one was where you had to see-saw with the bombs to hit him. Tight!

Megamix: His spinny animation after jumping on a spring and the "yea" voice made me lol. Man I love Sonic.
 
The problem with 3d sonic is quite a few things.

Game Mechanics...sonic games need to be fast...at the same time you need to control your character. It seems the new trend with 3d sonic is they like to have this mix of slow combat and on rails combat/running. The homing spin is probably the worst thing ever done to sonic. Yes it allows us to attack while speeding along...but does it take any skill? Do you feel like you accomplished anything cool and stylish? NO and NO. Old sonic games had lots of different ways to traverse the terrain and a mistake while maneuvering and fighting at break neck speeds simply had you falling to the next. Sonic is stylish when errors can still flow. Grinding a stupid rail and missing a jump and restarting without any freedom sucks balls. Why not make a TON of valid rails and have enemies that can be attack along the way that could give access to better paths if attacked properly. You need that feeling of reward when you do something fast and intricate on the spot. Having to die and restart on some boring on rails routine is tiring and lame.

I say add an area of effect attack while airborne that can home on to an opponent for a cool bounce...if your close though. This float in air slowly then pop the enemy guaranteed attack sucks and has no flare to it.

The characters and story. They need to stop fuckin things up here! Ok we got tails...cool, we got knuckles...really cool...then we got like 45 other fuckers and hedgehogs...THAT CAN ALL RUN ASS FAST AS SONIC AND DO MORE!!! What the fuck is so special about sonic anymore?!? Also Eggman...what the fucking fuck Batman? It's Robotnik...and yes I have smacked a small child for trying to tell me it's Eggman and not Dr Robotnik. Stop with the name changes, stop making sonic obsolete, and create some characters that are interesting rather than buff the online sex life of the yiffing furry elites.

Also stop giving sonic stupid gimicks...Werehog: bad idea, Sword: really bad idea, Shadow gets a gun: Ok...who's giving reach arounds at this office to get this shit passed (I want their number with that kind of "skill").

The worst part about Sonic Team? They repeatedly get horrible reviews and have people point out EXACTLY whats wrong with the game and they still keep fucking up. It's like changing a diaper on a soiled infant only to have it shit on you while trying to fetch it a new one.

Damnit! where's Yahtzee?!? [/rant]

P.S. Sonic 3+Knuckles was godlike!
 
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