The future of Algol, Hilde and Star Wars

laff x 4 trillion. and you all wonder why your community is dead/dying. nobody wants to put up with this whiney shit. its rediculous. thats why i left, thats why several others left. you've basically killed your own game.

banning or unbanning isnt going to help you now. just play the game as is for as long as you can.
 
JOP said:
laff x 4 trillion. and you all wonder why your community is dead/dying. nobody wants to put up with this whiney shit. its rediculous. thats why i left, thats why several others left. you've basically killed your own game.

banning or unbanning isnt going to help you now. just play the game as is for as long as you can.
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Quoted for truth.
 
Hilde's Doom combo RO is gone in BD, Agol has been tweaked, Star Wars are gone...

So....buy psp, buy BD, learn to play on a psp. Then hook it up to a TV and get people to come and compete.

Until BD is released on PS3, or sc5 comes out, which ever come first.
 
Nori said:
You can't base regionals and local tournaments and decide to ban her. People who want to be good at this game should have studied you and SU's vids to see exactly how you did it, cause honestly, it takes more time to complain about something than it does to study.

I've made a few threads, talked w/Jaxel/ChaCha/Idle on ideas on how to improve the community, simply banning a char scrubs don't understand won't help advance our community. What about the 2v2 major I had in mind? That not only encourages people to keep playing w/their friends, but maybe even some vets will come out of the woodwork knowing they have a strong teammate. Lots of possibilities there. And I'm not the only one w/positive ideas.
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No one here is talking about banning her (recently anyway..) they're talking about the question i have been asking.

Should we ban the binds?

Oof wants to limit the binds to 1, as opposed to me, i say to hell with the binds.

Mapping...however that's different, i don't mind allowing a pad player to map R1 to A or L2 to G, so as long as it's a 1 button command, instead of a 2-button command
 
Chickenwing said:
No one here is talking about banning her (recently anyway..) they're talking about the question i have been asking.

Should we ban the binds?

Oof wants to limit the binds to 1, as opposed to me, i say to hell with the binds.

Mapping...however that's different, i don't mind allowing a pad player to map R1 to A or L2 to G, so as long as it's a 1 button command, instead of a 2-button command
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Tell me I misunderstand... you say "to hell with the binds if it's a 2 button command."

But the issue with Hilde being so simple, is the ability to map a second A to R1 or B to R2 etc etc. and hold those while still being able to guard or use face buttons (losing charge though).

So you are for that... but not a combo of say B+G or A+K etc?
 
Chickenwing said:
No one here is talking about banning her (recently anyway..) they're talking about the question i have been asking.

Should we ban the binds?

Oof wants to limit the binds to 1, as opposed to me, i say to hell with the binds.

Mapping...however that's different, i don't mind allowing a pad player to map R1 to A or L2 to G, so as long as it's a 1 button command, instead of a 2-button command
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I've responded to this a few times with opinions relating it to the topic, which to remind everyone is "The future of Algol, Hilde and Star Wars." Not "The future of button binds" or "Let's talk about how doomed this game is because we're fucked anyway" or "Tell everyone how you care about the community and they don't." Multiple button binding is only for ease-of-use and has no major effect on how well people play, bar Hilde's major exception involving secondary As and Bs (whether bound with another input or not) that I covered on the last page.

I was also reviewing the whole topic earlier, and realized I completely missed ShenOu's post on page 5, which covered most of the same points that I posted on page 6. Whoops.
 
Eyce_Theon said:
I've responded to this a few times with opinions relating it to the topic, which to remind everyone is "The future of Algol, Hilde and Star Wars." Not "The future of button binds" or "Let's talk about how doomed this game is because we're fucked anyway" or "Tell everyone how you care about the community and they don't." Multiple button binding is only for ease-of-use and has no major effect on how well people play, bar Hilde's major exception involving secondary As and Bs (whether bound with another input or not) that I covered on the last page.

I was also reviewing the whole topic earlier, and realized I completely missed ShenOu's post on page 5, which covered most of the same points that I posted on page 6. Whoops.
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So...what are we talking about now? Cause at this point JOP is right. These are the kind of threads that kill the community because to others we look like scrubs by not being able to deal with "broken" characters like other communities, i. e. Tekken. And yes I know we're not them but that doesn't mean those communities don't do the right things to keep their players involved. I mean people have been playing SF and Tekken for 10 years!

In all seriousness though, what more can we really do? Ban characters, binds, mapping? Is any of that REALLY going to help? Unless we give Namco a reason to care about us they won't. If anyone has any ideas on how to do that it would be great to hear that instead of what's going on because that's the only way this will change.

Lest we forget, SC4 didn't even get an arcade release. =/ No patches, no sequel, no future.
 
I guess I'm the only one looking for positive solutions instead of neutering the game we all enjoy. I can assure you Hilde/Algol will not be banned in TX tournaments, simply because there is no good reason to.
 
Nori said:
I guess I'm the only one looking for positive solutions instead of neutering the game we all enjoy. I can assure you Hilde/Algol will not be banned in TX tournaments, simply because there is no good reason to.
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I'm more interested in how we can get Namco to listen and support our game. I really think that's our only option no matter how unrealistic it sounds.
 
I think 80's hair band Ratt, summed it up best:

Round and round
With love we'll find a way just give it time...
Round and round
What comes around goes around
I'll tell you why...
Round and round
 
Nori said:
I guess I'm the only one looking for positive solutions instead of neutering the game we all enjoy. I can assure you Hilde/Algol will not be banned in TX tournaments, simply because there is no good reason to.
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Myself said:
Not..."Tell everyone how you care about the community and they don't."
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Though your teams battle idea was good and I would love to play it, I'm stuck with no cash at home in NC. Sitting here posting my opinions and asking valid questions is my only method of support right now.

BtG said:
I'm more interested in how we can get Namco to listen and support our game. I really think that's our only option no matter how unrealistic it sounds.
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Fuck, does nobody read any topics about Broken Destiny? People keep coming in here spouting how hurt they are about Namco abandoning them when a new SC game is getting released in 3 weeks. 1up just had their game night podcast yesterday and a substantial amount of balance changes were brought up.
 
Eyce_Theon said:
Fuck, does nobody read any topics about Broken Destiny? People keep coming in here spouting how hurt they are about Namco abandoning them when a new SC game is getting released in 3 weeks. 1up just had their game night podcast yesterday and a substantial amount of balance changes were brought up.
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Everyone knows about BD, it just doesn't mean anything. If the game isn't out on console or arcade, no one will play it. It's that simple. Putting a fighting game on a hand-held console is one of the worst ideas ever thought of. Now if Namco put a BD patch to download for SC4 then THAT would be support for the game. Namco didn't make a hand-held substitute for T5 and T6. They made patches to fix those games and that's EXACTLY what they need to do for our game!
 
BTG: Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection first came to the PSP before being a $20 download on the PS3. Let's hope Namco does this again
 
Lock this thread!

No bans are needed proven by constantly changing tournament results and from the sound of things SC:BD seems to be taking characters seriously including Algol and Hilde with nerfs, buffs, etc.

No bans - No bans - No bans!

More important than anything else is that if Hilde is loose there is no justification for banning anyone else.

I apoligize to those that find this post annoying as thats not the intention but banning for this game is stupid since no one wanted to address these things earlier in the games life cycle when threads were being flamed and locked left and right on a regular basis. Its disrespectful and undermines members of the community that have invested the time into characters like Hilde.

No bans! Lock this shit and never discuss bans again until the next installment of SC when the community can hopefully discuss what is broken appropriately without locking shit etc. Cause bringing it up now is just reckless and disrespectful.
 
Nori said:
BTG: Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection first came to the PSP before being a $20 download on the PS3.
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I don't agree with BtG's more bleak, doomsayer-type assessments, but he did place consoles AND ARCADES both above portables in order of importance (which I agree with), and Dark Resurrection did hit arcades before PSP, by a large margin. He's not wrong.
 
Something-Unique is right, but this thread has sparked a few good conversations between the rest of it. I've been bored in the past few days, so I enjoyed it.

And I know it's sad to compare Namco's devotion to Tekken to it's value on the Soul series, but the simple fact that Broken Destiny has made important changes to balance (including issues that many people in this topic base their standings on) shows me that Soul Calibur will continue to be expanded and improved in the future.
 
Why unban him? Is someone DYING to play algol that they have to cause a ruckus like this? Honestly, who is the person that has the burning rage to play him even though he was banned already.

Please shit like this needs to stop. Make a decision and stick to it.
 
Something-Unique said:
I apoligize to those that find this post annoying as thats not the intention but banning for this game is stupid since no one wanted to address these things earlier in the games life cycle when threads were being flamed and locked left and right on a regular basis. Its disrespectful and undermines members of the community that have invested the time into characters like Hilde.
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^laff

no offense to you SU, but i was the idiot on SC.com that always got banned because i spewed off at the mouth @ chicago because of thier idiot desicions. Espicially allowing the bindings.

And in fact, i still voice and fight that...because that in itself is stupid. Regardless of characters that are being played. And also, BD is forcing people to play on pad anyway.... So, i'm not too concerned with that particular aspect of it.

But back to my orginal point, i disagree with that only because when chicago was running shit, nothing got done. no matter who complained about what. That too, plays a part of why SC3 died, as well as other factors
 
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