JetSetDizzy
[11] Champion
Ah! That's good to know.
Tira Frame Data
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grinsekatze
[08] Mercenary
one more stupid question... the R-O in properties, what does that mean?
JetSetDizzy
[11] Champion
Ring out.
grinsekatze
[08] Mercenary
thank you, just found it in a german forum, too. sorry ._.
Starscream
[09] Warrior
*Gives the OP a hug*
So...
You have Nightmare frame Data?
Any other frames you happen to send my way [even the characters I hate, like Xiba] will be passed along to their respective places.
So...
You have Nightmare frame Data?
Any other frames you happen to send my way [even the characters I hate, like Xiba] will be passed along to their respective places.
Age_of_Truth
[12] Conqueror
Hi everybody.
I will go through the changes as soon as the patch comes out, and post all the frame data changes here, as well as anything else technical which is not 100% clear from the patch notes. This should help update the guide.
But TBH, she has been nerfed so horribly, horribly badly, that even a lot of the text in the guide will just not carry now. I think the only decent move that didn't get nerfed was 44K, and I always forget to use it.
I am on a SC high right now, but these Tira changes make me very, very sad.
I will go through the changes as soon as the patch comes out, and post all the frame data changes here, as well as anything else technical which is not 100% clear from the patch notes. This should help update the guide.
But TBH, she has been nerfed so horribly, horribly badly, that even a lot of the text in the guide will just not carry now. I think the only decent move that didn't get nerfed was 44K, and I always forget to use it.
I am on a SC high right now, but these Tira changes make me very, very sad.
Age_of_Truth
[12] Conqueror
JS 6A is -10 on block. JS 6AB is -18 (WTF)
GS 3A seems to have better pushback (patch notes described Fin Beat, which is JS 3A, but I think they meant Shriek Noise)
JS 2AB: 2nd hit is -9 on hit (doesn't knock down). CH only KDs now. No launch. I don't undertand.
GS 4A is now -6 on block.
GS 3B is now -14 on block (v bad news). 3B, 66K doesn't connect on all characters (I'll make a list later)
4B : B : B is now -17 on block. Still can be stepped / JG on reaction. Highly necessary now but also highly risky. Prob her best whiff punish.
3K still -4 on hit but opp. stays standing
GS 4K now safe (-10)
GS B+K: no longer aGIs kicks / stabs. Ouch
WR B less safe (less pushback)
WR B K A: less chance of GS shift - why would we ever use thus now. Pls explain
GS 66A only +3 on block now
22A more pushback on hit, so no combo at tip range. Now -11 on block. Thanks
44A2A is now -5 on hit. 44AA is now very easy to punish and -15 on block. What is going on?
44A is even worse, higher chance of JS switch
GS 666B is really very powerful now. We're gonna spend a lot of time in JS so might as well use it.
JS 22B easily stepped both sides
GS 22B only +3 on block now.
GS 44 [ B ] can now break guage. This is a nerf - can no longer be used for risk-free guage damage
GS 66K only -6 on block now (buff). Opp~FC on block (was it like this before?) GS 33K is -7 on block
JS CE now 64 damage (from 57). Not much of a buff
T_T
GS 3A seems to have better pushback (patch notes described Fin Beat, which is JS 3A, but I think they meant Shriek Noise)
JS 2AB: 2nd hit is -9 on hit (doesn't knock down). CH only KDs now. No launch. I don't undertand.
GS 4A is now -6 on block.
GS 3B is now -14 on block (v bad news). 3B, 66K doesn't connect on all characters (I'll make a list later)
4B : B : B is now -17 on block. Still can be stepped / JG on reaction. Highly necessary now but also highly risky. Prob her best whiff punish.
3K still -4 on hit but opp. stays standing
GS 4K now safe (-10)
GS B+K: no longer aGIs kicks / stabs. Ouch
WR B less safe (less pushback)
WR B K A: less chance of GS shift - why would we ever use thus now. Pls explain
GS 66A only +3 on block now
22A more pushback on hit, so no combo at tip range. Now -11 on block. Thanks
44A2A is now -5 on hit. 44AA is now very easy to punish and -15 on block. What is going on?
44A is even worse, higher chance of JS switch
GS 666B is really very powerful now. We're gonna spend a lot of time in JS so might as well use it.
JS 22B easily stepped both sides
GS 22B only +3 on block now.
GS 44 [ B ] can now break guage. This is a nerf - can no longer be used for risk-free guage damage
GS 66K only -6 on block now (buff). Opp~FC on block (was it like this before?) GS 33K is -7 on block
JS CE now 64 damage (from 57). Not much of a buff
T_T
Violent Vodka
Pick Your Poison
This also effected Gloomy's. The last hit on Gloomy does less, but same 91 damage.
ZUZU
[10] Knight
Is GS 4K i11 now?
setto-kun
[10] Knight
GS 4K is still i12.
ZUZU
[10] Knight
oh right, i misunderstood the patch notes
another question:
AA prior patch is -6 on block according to the wiki. So its less than -6 now?! Or am i wrong again.
another question:
AA prior patch is -6 on block according to the wiki. So its less than -6 now?! Or am i wrong again.
Violent Vodka
Pick Your Poison
I think it just lengthened the first hit so you couldn't duck. I'm not sure if it's less now, though.
setto-kun
[10] Knight
Yep, prior to patch you could duck second A, now you can't!
ZUZU
[10] Knight
okay my bad. i feel stupid now.
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