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Jaxel
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Shooting him the first time was self-defense... the 5 shots overkill... that was murder.
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That's what I'm saying. When it's not a question of life and death, don't do to them what they do to you, even if they deserve it, or else you won't get help from the police.(...)but if he's not actually in danger at the time then there's no reason for him to be attacking. Either way, if he could have left without beating her up first then that's what he should have done. The self defence laws are very clear about not covering revenge or vigilante attacks, e.g. if the husband leaves the house but then comes back and attacks his wife he's way over the line.
Hehe, sorry. I was trying to avoid doing that, but apparently I failed.I can't believe your making me look like I'm defending paedophiles. :<
The reason why I think they should be sent to jail is because the prisoners there had their life messed up by people like that.Sending them to jail isn't going to do anything. They're sick in the head. Like a psychopath, sending them to prison for any length of time will not change them.
I wish I had any credible source at all to back this up, but I don't...But where is anyone saying that you can't defend yourself from a sexual assault or that police won't help kids in those situations? That's simply untrue.
Well, how to cure pedophilia... I think there's a way that can work very well.
Send them in a real prison.
You know, where many prisoners are prisoners because they had a difficult life and some of them were abused by their parents when they were young.
Send pedophiles in there, and this will probably cure their mental illness for the rest of their life.
And possible future pedophiles will think thrice before touching a kid.
Dr. Plume says so.
Umm.. yeaaaaa... thats NOT how life works..lol..or criminal law.The robber, armed or not, is guilty. His friend was armed and he was using his FRIEND as a weapon to extort, and therefore he was armed by association, knew the idiocy that he was partaking in, and got his shit ruined because of it. Self defense, and the good kind.
the second shot is way out of bounds. He had control of the scenario at that point. You'll notice that he casually walks up and kills him, it's premeditated. It's not as though the kid went for a gun or to lash back and was shot in defense.
Definitely murder. The guy had sooo many options to choose and going for a walk up kill is just fucked up. Do i think the kid deserved the first shot? Yes. The 2nd shot? Hell no.
Looks like we got ourselves a clear cut case of murder.
If his defense lawyer is any good, he will make his client take a plea of voluntary manslaughter. If this case goes to trial, he wont stand a chance.
makes the point that violence, however someone justifies it, is clearly against the law, and that the use of deadly force outside of a life-or-death situation will get you brought up on some sort of murder charge. Perhaps to Walker it was worth spending 10 years (the minimum sentence, and he doesn't pose any real threat to society so he'll probably get off) of his life in jail to save his daughter, but that shouldn't change the law.
Even if they weren't killed making them "live through hell" is a cruel and unusual punishment.
rofl, it's kind of funny how people are uneducated on this.
So no, it's not self-defence. As soon as he shot at an unarmed man, it went straight into an assault, and then it went to murder. Simple as that, and the law is quite clear on it.