Soul Calibur 4 National Results

It was an intimidating wall of text...:(

Yeah I skipped by it. Oh well. At least people can get the short version of what you said now.
 
No doubt about it, Hilde players were there at the tournament to be feared and they do eliminated some of the best players, that's why I don't like Hilde, hehehe, anyway, at the nationals tournament as I said before, there was this guy called something unique, that raped Hildes like no one else could, maybe Kura with his abnormal reactions hehehe.

Anyway, RTD is crazy with Hilde no doubt about it, great games at the tournament, sorry if I ofended someone with that comment, is just that I liked the way Something Unique handled that match at the tournament, reacting with Asura against charged moves was amazing, is more amazing than holding buttons, stepping, releasing buttons and RO.
 
RTD was also the best player in SC2 w/X. So you take the best char in the game and one of the best players (people picked RTD to win Evo) and nobody who knows him is surprised he beat other players. It's the French's own fault, as it is TX players, who weren't prepared to deal w/Hilde. If you want to win at this game, you need to be prepared for all matchups, it's that simple.
 
lolo said:
No doubt about it, Hilde players were there at the tournament to be feared and they do eliminated some of the best players, that's why I don't like Hilde, hehehe, anyway, at the nationals tournament as I said before, there was this guy called something unique, that raped Hildes like no one else could, maybe Kura with his abnormal reactions hehehe.
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was it something new? something intriguing? something different? exclusive? individual? particular? rare? uncommon? unexampled? or was it just somethingunique
 
NinjaCW said:
SU : $20 still isn't enough to put someone into overdrive mode to me. It's just not enough incentive to try cause you will take it serious but NOT as serious if someone put up $50. For example Daigo lost an $100 MM to I think it was Sabin (Arturo) but he WON EVO and won like 7k'ish. You can't put those kinds of wins on the table with MM's ya know?
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Well I guess its different strokes for different folks because I know $20 is enough for me to take it seriously. Nowadays its hard to laugh at that kind of cash unless your rich. Maybe when I get my degree in like 2 years then I can throw that around lol. Yeah I heard about that Daigo match. It happens though and sometimes u lose (plus its Seth). All the MM's from what I heard was his rules so i'm positive he took them seriously and so did his competitors since its Daigo who is overall the best SFIV player even though he loses to some. Also in tournaments don't forget brackets play a role in sometimes moving forward. Ex. I am 100% positive I would have taken Nats if Thugish was not in my way. He keeps ruining things lol. It's possible that with such close results in that MM Arturo could have taken him out in the tournament as well. In the end these are what if's and it doesn't matter but it helps explain the value of the MM discrepancies.

Nobli said:
was it something new? something intriguing? something different? exclusive? individual? particular? rare? uncommon? unexampled? or was it just somethingunique
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All of the above except unexampled because I have been doing it for awhile over in the Tri-State. In fact my lack of Hilde play in a long time has my reflexes hampered. Against Hilde I can manage short intense bursts against her under pressure. After a while reflexes start to burn out. Lol! In general my anti-Hilde is reacting to her charges which takes alot of focus which is not something u can just casually keep up.

Lame DragonBallZ analogy ~ It's like going Super Saiyan 3 and can only maintain it for so long.
 
Omar, you told me you were glad the french could do dead-serious FT5 or FT10 challenge without any money on the line, no ?
And you also said you were tired of some US players that would make excuses when losing without MM involved, and you had the french mentality on this one, right ?

I'm just a bit surprised by what i've read here :)

So you beat me first time 5-3 (FT 5 MM), then I beat your Kilik later 5-1 (FT5 without money) (and your Hilde 5-2) ... I'd say we're even, right ? right ? :)
 
Saitoh:

Yes I did say all of those things and I meant them. However Malek made me realize different as he beat me all throughout casuals as well but for every MM there were different results in my performance. I simply could not beat him at all overall over the course of like 100 casuals but in our MM's the matches were always closer and I edged him out. On top of that I beat him in the NVGA with Hilde whom he has been thrashing in casuals as well. Its just different.

I thought I could play all of u 100% serious because that is how all of u play. Your 100% correct but in reality my performance was always different under pressure. I was wrong and a number of results proved this to me down the stretch towards Nats but even more important than that was the results difference in playing Malek more than anyone else and how I performed in the following tournaments.

I don't mean to take anything away from u but thats the reality. I didn't just randomly change my mind it was my performance that changed my mind.
 
My 2 cents: When you beat a good player, don't ever assume that it's over. Good players who get beat come back even stronger.
 
I always thought casuals were mostly a learning experience where you try out new stuff and practice things that you may be trying to develop. That's how I come up with new things and learn how to deal with characters in ways I would have never normally thought of... but maybe that's just me. I can take casuals seriously and a win is a win, but throwing around numbers seems pointless.

[edit] 100% agree with Wingzero.
 
If that's not some excuses ... well I guess it's pointless to play against you if it's not in tournament or MM then ?
That's too bad really :/
I'd hope that you were a little french in your heart when it come to calibur haha


BTW I have one excuse too : No offense to Jaxel, but playing a "team" tournament with someone else than my teammate is not an incentive for me to do any good, really :)
I guess I can then say that this result don't mean anything ? :p

Anyway you're still the best Kilik in the World, and I mean that :)

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Cedric :

In France, casuals are casuals, but FT5 or FT10 are what they are, and we're taking those very seriously, some take those even more seriously than tournament.
Casuals and FT5-10 are two very differents things ... at least for us. In France, MM are very unpopular.
 
wing_zero said:
My 2 cents: When you beat a good player, don't ever assume that it's over. Good players who get beat come back even stronger.
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Saitoh look at this as it reflects the truth. I'm not saying I could indefinitely beat u but i'm noting that things are different within casuals and MM's and tournaments. It's just the reality.

See in France u don't really win money and things like that so your pressure is what it is. However in the states we react differently to money on the line, bragging rights etc which u will only find from MM's and Tournaments.

By the way I am a little French in the heart now lol! I will run into u in the future whether it be in paris or the next Evo or Nats and we can do another MM.

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I don't mean to take anything away from u but thats the reality. I didn't just randomly change my mind it was my performance that changed my mind.
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I'm gonna quote that to help enhance the point. Why lose so badly in casuals yet almost dominate in MM's. It doesn't make sense other than the fact that something else mentally kicks in under pressure.

For the past statements I apoligize as I was wrong. It happens that way sometimes.

Also in regards to the team tournament u are 100% right.
 
Oh! a Ft5/ft10 ok I get it. No one really challenged me to any of those so I was under the impression this was all casual talk.
 
I get your point Omar, but our last fight was that 5-1 and that quote from wing_zero ... well it favor me more than you no ? haha

What I mean here is maybe you lost that last FT5 between us because I've adapted to you, found a counter and capitalized on it ... and not because it was not a MM :)

Do you get my point here ? :)
 
I dont get all this play at 100% talk. its impossible to play at 100% at any time. you just play and if you're better you win. That whole "100% play" thing is double edged sword. if you think you play at 100% your opp says he is tired or lost concentration etc. Whoever losses feels he wasnt playing his best. this is nonsense and dishonors you as a player.

I lost many games at Evo which I shouldnt have, but in the end, I've won my sets, MM's etc. Even few where I lost I wont go complaining about it here b/c it would be at least disrespectful towards my opponent, and also towards myself too. If I were that much better I would have won regardless, if i was not so good as to dominate my opponents - it is stupid to think next time or whatever would be different, b/c my opponent will be different too. Like wingzero said - good players come back even stronger. So even if you think you would have turn around the game if you just played at your 100% assume next time your opponent will be playing his 200%.
 
Saitoh that could indeed be a possibility but my matches were also flipped the other way with some people in which the MM was after the fact.

Either way in the end I don't think i'm better than u to the point that I can dominate u thats all that matters.
I was just pointing out somethings in regards to performance because when money is on the line for me or I want something bad like Nats i'm awake definitely more than just playing some matches. There are so many more things on the line.
 
Something Unique: I get what you mean. I tend to play better when it's my last game.
But really, we should all aim to be able to play at our best for as long as possible at all times.
I know I'm aiming for that, but it's not easy for me.

On giving excuses when you lose:
People, I think that's lame. Losing is losing, learn from it.

I keep hearing 'I got no exp against this and this, that's why I'm losing.'
Well, you're losing because you didn't study the character match up enough: You didn't adapt fast enough. You didn't notice your opponent's strategy fast enough.
But all that can be solved if you've studied the match up. You'll know what tools your opponent has, you'll know what strategies can be applied with that character. Which will lead you to adapt faster in the heat of the battle.

知彼知己，百戰不殆；不知彼而知己，一勝一負；不知彼，不知己，每戰必殆
It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.
 
Shenrii:

Yeah I think all this just boils down to belief system values per country.

In France FT5 & FT10 outside of tournaments mean serious business.

In the U.S FT5 MM & FT10 MM outside of tournaments mean serious business.

Its not intentional disrepect or dishonor its just a belief system.

However what is a fact is that there simply is more pressure in a MM or tournament than there is in a casual.
There is something to win or lose there.

Its similiar to what NinjaCW said a while back. Do u honestly think things would be the same if i'm playing a FT5 vs. a
FT5 for like 1.000 dollars or something. Its just not the same and I thought I could accomodate the French that way since Malek was the initial person I said I would do that for but low and behold no matter how hard I tried there were different results in the MM's. It just doesn't make sense otherwise and thats what leads me to believe its not the same. So its not like i'm coming out of no where with this stuff. It couldn't be further from an excuse.
 
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