Framework for re-establishing SC4 on a global scale!

Shinjitao: This is why after Nats, I have wanted some kind of committe, not just Jaxel, running things. Naturally, it got ignored, or people were too scared to help me. Guy is the most negative "leader" I've ever seen. Makes WCMaxi look like a disney character
 
Let me ask you this, "Do you think the enormous support you have gotten for FSAK; due to it being a major or because it's Idlemind running it?"

As stressful as this has been I am certain, from where were we stand you have achieved a lot in this down time.

I hope you stick around for at least you input, it will be appreciated.


You missed the context of the quote, sir. Entertaining re-debate about the bans at this point is about as productive as punching yourself in the balls to prove you have great fortitude; hence when I say 1 step forward, 2 steps back I mostly am referring to slinging mud related to the bans. You need stability to get shit rolling. What SU did here, unwittingly, is open the door for people to bring even more division into this.

Not a smart move, imo.

As to FSAK; is it because my name is on it? I don't know, it certainly didn't seem to budge Texas to come out and play =\.

-Idle
 
Yeah but it's still funny, people making grand statements about bans and then fail.

On the plus side there are no more arguements on the forums!

uh oh :(
 
You missed the context of the quote, sir. Entertaining re-debate about the bans at this point is about as productive as punching yourself in the balls to prove you have great fortitude; hence when I say 1 step forward, 2 steps back I mostly am referring to slinging mud related to the bans. You need stability to get shit rolling. What SU did here, unwittingly, is open the door for people to bring even more division into this.

Not a smart move, imo.

As to FSAK; is it because my name is on it? I don't know, it certainly didn't seem to budge Texas to come out and play =\.

-Idle

Ohh ouch, but whose to say someone from Texas won't show up...we might just sponsor someone to come over there and Take that money.
 
Something Unique- Thanks, will continue to do what I can over here.

Thinkin of startin up monthlies w/a Japanese playa.
 
You missed the context of the quote, sir. Entertaining re-debate about the bans at this point is about as productive as punching yourself in the balls to prove you have great fortitude; hence when I say 1 step forward, 2 steps back I mostly am referring to slinging mud related to the bans. You need stability to get shit rolling. What SU did here, unwittingly, is open the door for people to bring even more division into this.

Not a smart move, imo.

As to FSAK; is it because my name is on it? I don't know, it certainly didn't seem to budge Texas to come out and play =\.

-Idle

I love your sarcasm, but with school starting as well as other life issues (you know...me getting a house...) i don't think it would be a problem for us to come up there :)

To keep in topic, TX is going to be in attempt to start our monthlies again, Each Region hosting it's own monthly starting in October. This'll give time for us to recoup what we have lost. However, alot of our big names that are showing up are actually going to sit down and talk about this. So Idle, if you wanna get down on this then let's make it happen. I'm pretty sure our top 3 issues are going to be as follows:

1. Current Bans
2. Possible Nats for 2011
3. Leadership

I'm to talk to Nori today to see if we can open up a discussion chat from monster's website and get the ball rolling, either that or a conference call. No i'm not saying we're going to open up a poll or anything of the sort. But i'm pretty sure we grab a concenus number of individuals 5 or 7, would suffice....idk.

We'll see....i'm just rambling on.
 
As to FSAK; is it because my name is on it? I don't know, it certainly didn't seem to budge Texas to come out and play =\.

-Idle

Ouch!!! LOL. Any of yall coming to the FREE tourney in Dallas this weekend? HHmmm... I don't know.

CW: Don't finish with "im just rambling". Stick to your words man. Keep that back bone straight.

Nori: After every event. Mr.Cox follows up with, "i'm not touching this game again. Don't call me if it involves SC". I have people to back me up on this. You know how to get a hold of me for Pasadena, We are the HOUSTON SCENE!
 
Ouch!!! LOL. Any of yall coming to the FREE tourney in Dallas this weekend? HHmmm... I don't know.

CW: Don't finish with "im just rambling". Stick to your words man. Keep that back bone straight.

Nori: After every event. Mr.Cox follows up with, "i'm not touching this game again. Don't call me if it involves SC". I have people to back me up on this. You know how to get a hold of me for Pasadena, We are the HOUSTON SCENE!

Yeah, Cox is my friend and all but that fool is being a hypocrite lol Bboy speaks the truth there about him saying that.

Bboy. You aint the boss of me! Nori damn well can PM me or shoot me a message on FB about any events or etc. I'm looking at the forums just as much as you. We playing tonight or you gotta wash your hair or some dumb shit ;)
 
But you guys know that's just how he is, when he loses he bashes the game and says he's gonna quit...when he's winning he's leet and you suck. Cox loves the game too. He's actions speak louder than his words.
 
But you guys know that's just how he is, when he loses he bashes the game and says he's gonna quit...when he's winning he's leet and you suck. Cox loves the game too. He's actions speak louder than his words.

Shut up King Ace your wak
 
<3 cedric.

this thread has officially made my head explode. so...does this mean hilde/algol may be mainly legal after FSAK?

wow.
 
hey guys! lets save the community by unbanning what made everyone quit in the first place!

in other news, "they're" is a shortened version of "they are", "there" is used to show or identify a location or space, and "their" is a possessive pronoun meaning "belonging to them". another one of these pronouns is "our" meaning "belonging to us"...not "are"

3.8 :/
 
hey guys! lets save the community by unbanning what made everyone quit in the first place!

in other news, "they're" is a shortened version of "they are", "there" is used to show or identify a location or space, and "their" is a possessive pronoun meaning "belonging to them". another one of these pronouns is "our" meaning "belonging to us"...not "are"

3.8 :/

I'm convinced that endless backbiting will ultimately save the community. It's the one common thread that keeps everyone talking.

That, or people enjoy playing the game or something. (Nah, scratch that. That's just silly.)
 
...jaxel is the site admin and, even though he USED TO BE a local TO, he is not and never has pretended to be the "leader" of the community. we never really had one. everyone is acting like the hilde ban was all his evil plan. LOL. sure, he banned her at a couple monthlies as an experiment to see how people reacted. it wasn't until idle put his foot down and said "fuck this hilde/algol are banned at GAMME" and then we agreed to follow the GAMME ruleset for DEV, that the ban became "official". even then, in the case of DEV at least, the ban was enforced for one reason...solidarity among major events.

it is really not fair to point fingers at jaxel for any of it...just because he doesn't do monthlies anymore? maybe he just got tired of it. you guys need to really stop and think about who set up 8wr to preserve the community...who made and integrated the (admittedly kind of pointless but a good try) ranking system...who has thrown more monthlies than all of the TOs in all other regions in the usa COMBINED...who was the pioneer of streaming events online within our community, and also for posting HD vids of all events on youtube. seriously wtf do you guys want? he's not interested anymore...is it too much to ask to just be grateful and STFU? this isn't his obligation. if you guys want to spark up offline communities then by all means do it, but why be upset that some who have already done so are no longer interested?

as far as support for the game goes...here is my honest opinion...if you guys wanna work together and create new monthlies, that is outstanding. sadly, where i am currently, there is only an offline tekken community. i asked them to play calibur and they all said LOL HILDE and refused to touch it. like idle said in so many words...if the result of this thread is a new set of events which lifts them, the damage done to the community will be far worse than any good that could have come.

do a little experiment. go to SRK's IRC channel, or go to the regional matchfinders, or go to some local 2d/tekken community gatherings and ask people why they don't play calibur. odds are you will have the same results as i have..."that game is broken"...try it for yourselves.

it took years for the ban decision to be accepted. run with it. if you plan to make a new NATS and series of qualifiers, there HAS to be a unified rule set. after years of debate and trial and error, we finally have one. you can try and change it, but you will not only fail, but also re-ignite the fires that nearly burned out our community in the first place. i am not being pessimistic, but realistic. don't do this.

CW, if you wish to open up discussion for a new NATS...why not do it in a thread? or why not use the integrated javachat here? you know that you can have private rooms within it, right? taking community issues and plans to an exclusive third party site chat room or over the phone is not a very good way to gain support. nori, nobody is preventing you from forming a committee of sorts to lead the community. my feeling about it is this...and i feel the same way with politics and military...that the people competent to be on such a committee are not willing or do not support it, and that those who are gung-ho and waiting in line are generally not going to do anything in the best interest of us as a whole. by all means, though, try it out. you don't need jaxel or anyone else's approval. what you need to do is just fucking do it. figure out who would be good and push them for it. if it works it works. if it fails it fails.

ok my final word...enough of this "scramble to revive our poor game" crap. the game and community has been around for a long time. last year everyone was saying SC4 would die after EVO, and yet we are still riding the hype of one major and coming up on two others. i, for one, am happy with it. i'm not gonna say that our community is perfect or even particularly healthy but still, it works for me. through 4 games it has worked and i really don't see that changing. good luck to you guys in hyping it up even more. i truly do hope that you can bring in more players. just take care that in "re-establishing" you don't unravel what's already been built. as it stands we have been having great events all year, with more to come. a number of communities still play often. the online community is as healthy as ever. all of this in spite of all our bickering and indecisiveness and the fact that the game is over two years old.

/endrant

/end rant
 
These were the 2 pm's I sent in good faith but received a shitty response instead.

PM 1:

Something-Unique said:
Im gonna send u this message while attempting to keep this grown as possible.

I genuinely intend on reviving at the very least the east coast Tri-State Region and the others. im not alone on this either

contrary to my haters I have Krayzie, Nori, and Oof on my side talking groundwork etc.

I simply ask since I honestly do respect u if u can show up to a tournament within the oct/nov time frame for SC4.

Regardless of what u said or how u feel about me I cannot be mad at u only disappointed. Thats because u let me in ur home, u supported this scene, this website is awesome and it wouldn't be here without u, etc.

I said it and I will say it again this is not about me. You guys inadvertently always put me in the spotlight whether it be through hate or not. This is a serious venture.

Will u support I am being grown in saying I need ur support and even better want ur support. This could really be the last SC game do not let it just die.

PM 2:

Something-Unique said:
also i am not looking for credit. In fact i want idle to be the face of this game but lets face it my name draws alot of attention. more good than hate. i have online connections, some sf connections etc.

I am using myself to get this done and after the jump start I will still be here but I would truthfully like to hand over things to Idle he deserves it and I would have liked to hand things back over to u but seriously no disrepect in an honest opinion u never think for urself and u let KDZ guid u with everything.

If u can be grown and truly understand this and where im coming from hit me back up and tell me u will support by showing up thats all i need. You need to do absolutely no work.

Im just missing u, hacker, kdz, Rigel but Rigel is a maybe. Its up to u Jaxel as someone who did genuinely appreciate the shit u did. I would be ignorant if I did not.

1 Step Forward, 2 Steps Back.

Learn a lesson here and LET IT GO.

-Idle

Valid Point! We need to talk at FSAK!
 
...Who's this everyone you keep mentioning in your posts I wonder, and where exactly was it decided that hilde will be unbanned?

We all know what Jaxel has done for the community, however by no means does that excuse him for coming in here and picking personal fights with SU, his an Admin but still a member of this community.

Bans have never really been official but people are happy with them...of course us in Texas do whatever pleases us. Hilde won't get unbanned I am sure of that, if she's allowed she will probably be stuck in cage fights, but none of that is in any discussions.
 
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