Tha_Shogun
[10] Knight
GMMA & Monsters Arcade @ QuakeCon in Dalla FREE Tourney: Results and Shout
November the 6th it is.
Where is it located?
November the 6th it is.
Where is it located?
GMMA & Monsters Arcade @ QuakeCon in Dalla FREE Tourney: Results and Shout outs
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BatousaiNori
[10] Knight
GMMA & Monsters Arcade @ QuakeCon in Dalla FREE Tourney: Results and Shout
San Antonio, TX. Let somebody know if you need housing. I'm gonna take your money as it is, the least I can do is house you
Tha_Shogun
[10] Knight
GMMA & Monsters Arcade @ QuakeCon in Dalla FREE Tourney: Results and Shout
Actions speak louder than words, I really hope you focused, cause if you complaining the way that you did in 'casuals' then this gonna be free money. I was hoping to play you in this tourney to put you out.
Actions speak louder than words, I really hope you focused, cause if you complaining the way that you did in 'casuals' then this gonna be free money. I was hoping to play you in this tourney to put you out.
BatousaiNori
[10] Knight
GMMA & Monsters Arcade @ QuakeCon in Dalla FREE Tourney: Results and Shout
This is why pros don't like playing online players. You win some casuals and automatically, you are better. It's beyond my understanding, honestly. You won't find 1 person who has played us both that will say you can beat me, not one.
Chickenwing
[10] Knight
GMMA & Monsters Arcade @ QuakeCon in Dalla FREE Tourney: Results and Shout
Shogun: i meant explain which moves that people block that you would do that setup. Not DEEPLY explain every single detail that you do.
TP: i still <3 you
Shogun: i meant explain which moves that people block that you would do that setup. Not DEEPLY explain every single detail that you do.
TP: i still <3 you
Tha_Shogun
[10] Knight
GMMA & Monsters Arcade @ QuakeCon in Dalla FREE Tourney: Results and Shout
LMAO.......WHAT THE FUCK?! You love to twist the things I do/say.
Wait, nevermind, you didn't completly twist my words, I do think I'm better than you, but not because of our casuals.
I think I'm better than you cause you bitch about online set-ups offline before even trying to realize why the fuck you was getting hit like you did. That puts you at an automatic scrub list in my book, I feel anybody could beat you if they really focused after hearing that nonsense coming out your mouth.
CW, well there's alot of ways I set up bombs, but I can't really go into all the ways I set up bombs/hovers, cause then that would be telling my stratedgy. I will give you alittle info on them, and why I can make them connect or do something else and why people say "wtf" when they get hit by my proceeding attacks.
Taki doesn't have bomb Tech Traps with standard bombs, she only has bomb advantage, so if a Taki player tells you "it's a tech trap", they are lying. She only has 2 bomb tech traps, and both of those are with UB bombs. 33~99 A
B:B and a stun hit on FC 1 A+B in the corner are her only Tech Traps, not matter which why they roll, they will get bombed.
Now, with the concept on floored opponents a Taki can space a bomb so well that even on block (since it doesn't TT they can block) she can still have 0 to +1 frames on an attacking opponent (depending on character). Even though Taki bombs are -8 on block people don't account the frames needed for your opponent to run back towards Taki due to knockback and if you put both the tip of the bombs hit box (it is disjointed from the animation by the way) you can actually build enough space to reset the frames back at 0 and proceed to CH, space, etc.
I know this example might start another flame war, but it's not intended I promise, but I did this same set up to nori, hit him with the tip of my bomb and he proceeded to rush at me with as I started my 33B. He did 66A I believe (the attack where Cerv does the horizontal high and puts the sword behind his back, if it connects your opponent gets knocked down) and of course 33B TC'd under it and connected on CH. He then proceeded to say again "omg your online manuevers, you never stop attacking" when in reality I already knew I spaced well enough to have resetted frames, so basically any anticapted attack that was around i16 would've worked. So where it looked like I was attacking at disadvantage, I was well aware of what I was doing.
So basically if done right, a Taki can push or pull rather or not she wants her opponent to be floored. And before you say "well all they have to do is attack" well then they actually get bombed and taki gets a free 60 damage, because by the time your opponent gets up with an attack, it's either gonna be too slow or she's gonna TC under it because of the last 12 or so frames TC.
This works for everytype of floored opponent. And before someone says "well they don't have to attack after a blocked opponent" then that just means the set up is reset and everything is back at 0, and what alot of people probably realized, but Taki does alot better to standing opponents than floored opponents cause all her lows pretty much suck (the good ones can't even.
So in a nut shell that's one reason why people get hit by my bombs, because they try to attack me when I force them off the ground.
I don't know if I feel to comfortable explaining these though lol.
LMAO.......WHAT THE FUCK?! You love to twist the things I do/say.
Wait, nevermind, you didn't completly twist my words, I do think I'm better than you, but not because of our casuals.
I think I'm better than you cause you bitch about online set-ups offline before even trying to realize why the fuck you was getting hit like you did. That puts you at an automatic scrub list in my book, I feel anybody could beat you if they really focused after hearing that nonsense coming out your mouth.
CW, well there's alot of ways I set up bombs, but I can't really go into all the ways I set up bombs/hovers, cause then that would be telling my stratedgy. I will give you alittle info on them, and why I can make them connect or do something else and why people say "wtf" when they get hit by my proceeding attacks.
Taki doesn't have bomb Tech Traps with standard bombs, she only has bomb advantage, so if a Taki player tells you "it's a tech trap", they are lying. She only has 2 bomb tech traps, and both of those are with UB bombs. 33~99 A
B:B and a stun hit on FC 1 A+B in the corner are her only Tech Traps, not matter which why they roll, they will get bombed.Now, with the concept on floored opponents a Taki can space a bomb so well that even on block (since it doesn't TT they can block) she can still have 0 to +1 frames on an attacking opponent (depending on character). Even though Taki bombs are -8 on block people don't account the frames needed for your opponent to run back towards Taki due to knockback and if you put both the tip of the bombs hit box (it is disjointed from the animation by the way) you can actually build enough space to reset the frames back at 0 and proceed to CH, space, etc.
I know this example might start another flame war, but it's not intended I promise, but I did this same set up to nori, hit him with the tip of my bomb and he proceeded to rush at me with as I started my 33B. He did 66A I believe (the attack where Cerv does the horizontal high and puts the sword behind his back, if it connects your opponent gets knocked down) and of course 33B TC'd under it and connected on CH. He then proceeded to say again "omg your online manuevers, you never stop attacking" when in reality I already knew I spaced well enough to have resetted frames, so basically any anticapted attack that was around i16 would've worked. So where it looked like I was attacking at disadvantage, I was well aware of what I was doing.
So basically if done right, a Taki can push or pull rather or not she wants her opponent to be floored. And before you say "well all they have to do is attack" well then they actually get bombed and taki gets a free 60 damage, because by the time your opponent gets up with an attack, it's either gonna be too slow or she's gonna TC under it because of the last 12 or so frames TC.
This works for everytype of floored opponent. And before someone says "well they don't have to attack after a blocked opponent" then that just means the set up is reset and everything is back at 0, and what alot of people probably realized, but Taki does alot better to standing opponents than floored opponents cause all her lows pretty much suck (the good ones can't even.
So in a nut shell that's one reason why people get hit by my bombs, because they try to attack me when I force them off the ground.
I don't know if I feel to comfortable explaining these though lol.
thugish_pond
[10] Knight
GMMA & Monsters Arcade @ QuakeCon in Dalla FREE Tourney: Results and Shout
I don't know why people wouldn't just get up and block. There's no scary mixup to be had on her part.
Also 90% yomi is a little too generous. It's not that much. Maybe 50, which is the largest part, but not 90. Other 50 is mixed between character knowledge, game mechanics, and guessing correctly with your given situations.
I don't know why people wouldn't just get up and block. There's no scary mixup to be had on her part.
Also 90% yomi is a little too generous. It's not that much. Maybe 50, which is the largest part, but not 90. Other 50 is mixed between character knowledge, game mechanics, and guessing correctly with your given situations.
Tha_Shogun
[10] Knight
GMMA & Monsters Arcade @ QuakeCon in Dalla FREE Tourney: Results and Shout
Exactly, by getting up and just blocking if spaced right it puts them on reset back at i0 between both characters if spaced right. Even if they're rolling or anything, it gets them off the ground, and taki's game is > to standing opponents. If they try to attack after block, she has the fastest horizontals in the game with one of the fastest mids in the game so she's usually gonna win.
I tried to go more in depth why people get caught with some of my bombs, which is what CW asked, I was just trying to give a more elaborate explanation.
Exactly, by getting up and just blocking if spaced right it puts them on reset back at i0 between both characters if spaced right. Even if they're rolling or anything, it gets them off the ground, and taki's game is > to standing opponents. If they try to attack after block, she has the fastest horizontals in the game with one of the fastest mids in the game so she's usually gonna win.
I tried to go more in depth why people get caught with some of my bombs, which is what CW asked, I was just trying to give a more elaborate explanation.
BatousaiNori
[10] Knight
GMMA & Monsters Arcade @ QuakeCon in Dalla FREE Tourney: Results and Shout
Damien, you aren't pro enough to correct Tha Shogun.
No seriously stop while you are ahead, this guy still thinks hover is a good idea. Even though EVERYBODY tells him it's a bad idea, he knows better. I also tried to teach him to space out his moves, but in his own crazy mind, he thinks he was doing "better" when he wasn't listening to me and being random. I know guys like this, you can't teach him.
Shogun, I could wholeheartedly care less if you think I'm a scrub or not. I got hit by retarded shit, in casuals, because as you CLEARLY saw, I was getting distracted left and right. If you had beat me in a tournament, we wouldn't even have had this conversation (granted you have no chance of doing that). Honestly, you are the offline noob who has to prove himself, not me. You do REALLY stupid shit w/your char. People don't say that about me, yet they say it about you. Makes you wonder doesn't it....
Damien, you aren't pro enough to correct Tha Shogun.
No seriously stop while you are ahead, this guy still thinks hover is a good idea. Even though EVERYBODY tells him it's a bad idea, he knows better. I also tried to teach him to space out his moves, but in his own crazy mind, he thinks he was doing "better" when he wasn't listening to me and being random. I know guys like this, you can't teach him.
Shogun, I could wholeheartedly care less if you think I'm a scrub or not. I got hit by retarded shit, in casuals, because as you CLEARLY saw, I was getting distracted left and right. If you had beat me in a tournament, we wouldn't even have had this conversation (granted you have no chance of doing that). Honestly, you are the offline noob who has to prove himself, not me. You do REALLY stupid shit w/your char. People don't say that about me, yet they say it about you. Makes you wonder doesn't it....
Tha_Shogun
[10] Knight
GMMA & Monsters Arcade @ QuakeCon in Dalla FREE Tourney: Results and Shout
Lol, no it doesn't make me wonder.
You don't know me Nori forreal lmao. You've been wrong about 4~5 times already.
Yea, I do think hover is a good idea, if used properly. Next to bombs, that's Taki's biggest form of damage. You can say what you want too, you ate hovers more than not, and alot of people at the tourney.
And there's a difference from what I feel listening to people is good and listen to people who bitch then try to give me advice. I take all advice into consideration, but when someone said "omg you online n00b even though you hitting me with shit!" and then turns around and tries to explain to me. I listen to alot of things King says, he's very smart. I also listen to alot of things Link says too, cause his explanation shows he knows what he's talking about, and placing high in tournies shows this. I just don't listen to people who complain about something then turn around trying to give me advice, hence I don't listen to you.
And um, don't through that distracted card on me now dude. I play by sound and there was noise everywhere, you wasn't the only one distracted. I couldn't fully concentrate in that type of environment, I like to have light in the room when I play, dark sceneries distract me, so please, don't use that.
That's another reason why I don't listen to you! You making another excuse after another.......after another! Why the hell I would take advice from someone like that?! I'd rather listen to a n00b then here someone complain about things then try to give me advice.
Lol, omg I said I would stop this with you, you keep sucking me in. Well, at least you got good yomi there.
Now show me that in our MM!
It's Damion btw.
Lol, no it doesn't make me wonder.
You don't know me Nori forreal lmao. You've been wrong about 4~5 times already.
Yea, I do think hover is a good idea, if used properly. Next to bombs, that's Taki's biggest form of damage. You can say what you want too, you ate hovers more than not, and alot of people at the tourney.
And there's a difference from what I feel listening to people is good and listen to people who bitch then try to give me advice. I take all advice into consideration, but when someone said "omg you online n00b even though you hitting me with shit!" and then turns around and tries to explain to me. I listen to alot of things King says, he's very smart. I also listen to alot of things Link says too, cause his explanation shows he knows what he's talking about, and placing high in tournies shows this. I just don't listen to people who complain about something then turn around trying to give me advice, hence I don't listen to you.
And um, don't through that distracted card on me now dude. I play by sound and there was noise everywhere, you wasn't the only one distracted. I couldn't fully concentrate in that type of environment, I like to have light in the room when I play, dark sceneries distract me, so please, don't use that.
That's another reason why I don't listen to you! You making another excuse after another.......after another! Why the hell I would take advice from someone like that?! I'd rather listen to a n00b then here someone complain about things then try to give me advice.
Lol, omg I said I would stop this with you, you keep sucking me in. Well, at least you got good yomi there.
Now show me that in our MM!
It's Damion btw.
BatousaiNori
[10] Knight
GMMA & Monsters Arcade @ QuakeCon in Dalla FREE Tourney: Results and Shout
Even though I peaced out KingAce in the tourney..............sure, listen to him, no problem lol. I place higher than him in nearly every tourney, ok cool. I get top 5 consistently wherever I go, but ok..........lol.
Your problem is, you seem to think because it's CASUALS, that it must work in a tournament. Something about this isn't getting to your brain, so I'm done dude. If you need somewhere to stay for the Nov 6th tourney, no problem. I have no problem w/you as a person, but as a gamer, you have A LOT to learn about common sense
Even though I peaced out KingAce in the tourney..............sure, listen to him, no problem lol. I place higher than him in nearly every tourney, ok cool. I get top 5 consistently wherever I go, but ok..........lol.
Your problem is, you seem to think because it's CASUALS, that it must work in a tournament. Something about this isn't getting to your brain, so I'm done dude. If you need somewhere to stay for the Nov 6th tourney, no problem. I have no problem w/you as a person, but as a gamer, you have A LOT to learn about common sense
thugish_pond
[10] Knight
GMMA & Monsters Arcade @ QuakeCon in Dalla FREE Tourney: Results and Shout
Shogun correcting my name....lol
Shogun correcting my name....lol
Belial
King of Hundred Swords
GMMA & Monsters Arcade @ QuakeCon in Dalla FREE Tourney: Results and Shout
So to make long story short - Shogun did alot of bombs, Nori got hit by them. Now Shogun's at fault???
PS: Hey Damion ^^
So to make long story short - Shogun did alot of bombs, Nori got hit by them. Now Shogun's at fault???
PS: Hey Damion ^^
GreatOne1939
I Knew It!!!
GMMA & Monsters Arcade @ QuakeCon in Dalla FREE Tourney: Results and Shout
^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^
Tha_Shogun
[10] Knight
GMMA & Monsters Arcade @ QuakeCon in Dalla FREE Tourney: Results and Shout
So your a Damion too huh?
Er, well Damien
I thought that was Nori's attempt at saying something about me correcting my online name (Tha instead of The). But I see now that it was his shot at sarcasim, but it's still directed towards me.
My bad, I didn't know you where a Damien/Damion/Damian also.
And yea Belial that's pretty much it from how I'm seeing it. I still don't fully understand how someone can complain about online set-ups in an offline gathering, it just sounds like bs to me.
So your a Damion too huh?
Er, well Damien
I thought that was Nori's attempt at saying something about me correcting my online name (Tha instead of The). But I see now that it was his shot at sarcasim, but it's still directed towards me.
My bad, I didn't know you where a Damien/Damion/Damian also.
And yea Belial that's pretty much it from how I'm seeing it. I still don't fully understand how someone can complain about online set-ups in an offline gathering, it just sounds like bs to me.
sWoRD_LoRD
[09] Warrior
GMMA & Monsters Arcade @ QuakeCon in Dalla FREE Tourney: Results and Shout
ya I didn't realize he was talking about Cervy 44B, but either way, with 66B after somethin like a blocked Cervy BB will probably still get hit by a Taki bomb. The details don't matter. All he had to say is, "I saw that Nori was attacking at disadvantage after certain moves and I took advantage of that with my moves and IT WORKED most of the time" He actually gave way more detail than he even need. HOWEVER, you might wanna just punish Cervy BB, it's unsafe, but I'm not so sure the distances for Taki, if she can punish it at all ranges or not.
And since when was casuals SO less serious than tourney play? If you're using your best or one of your best characters and you're losing...that means something regardless. You play a total of like 50 tourney matches at best in the entire lifetime of a calibur game, and you play hundreds to thousands of casuals, so...I guess people only play serious for 50 matches per calibur game and play like a brain dead ass clown the rest of em?
And both of you come to FSAK, don't wait til November. I wanna crush Nori myself Cervy vs. Cervy, cause I wouldn't need any of my top 10 characters. FT3 mirror match for $15
"and I ain't even on some calibur shit no more, I'm on some fuckin u up shit when I see you...and I will see you too" hehe
ya I didn't realize he was talking about Cervy 44B, but either way, with 66B after somethin like a blocked Cervy BB will probably still get hit by a Taki bomb. The details don't matter. All he had to say is, "I saw that Nori was attacking at disadvantage after certain moves and I took advantage of that with my moves and IT WORKED most of the time" He actually gave way more detail than he even need. HOWEVER, you might wanna just punish Cervy BB, it's unsafe, but I'm not so sure the distances for Taki, if she can punish it at all ranges or not.
And since when was casuals SO less serious than tourney play? If you're using your best or one of your best characters and you're losing...that means something regardless. You play a total of like 50 tourney matches at best in the entire lifetime of a calibur game, and you play hundreds to thousands of casuals, so...I guess people only play serious for 50 matches per calibur game and play like a brain dead ass clown the rest of em?
And both of you come to FSAK, don't wait til November. I wanna crush Nori myself Cervy vs. Cervy, cause I wouldn't need any of my top 10 characters. FT3 mirror match for $15
"and I ain't even on some calibur shit no more, I'm on some fuckin u up shit when I see you...and I will see you too" hehe
lobo
Luminario
GMMA & Monsters Arcade @ QuakeCon in Dalla FREE Tourney: Results and Shout
Well I don't know about nori, but I'll be there to take your money in a cervy mirror in his stead.
Well I don't know about nori, but I'll be there to take your money in a cervy mirror in his stead.
Chickenwing
[10] Knight
GMMA & Monsters Arcade @ QuakeCon in Dalla FREE Tourney: Results and Shout
^^
you'll be gracing your presence here lobo...? *sniff* That's awesome... bring all those AZ and NM lackies with you also
EDIT:
Nori & Shogun - Seriously, you two need to stop. This arguement between you two is getting old, and tiresome, and it's becoming a 1-hit wonder.
Nori: bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch.
Shogun: complain, argue, bitch, complain
Nori: bitch more, complain, bitch, bitch bitch,
Shogun: disagree, complain more, bitch, argue, bitch.
See my point? Just prove it once and for all. So since both of you like to bitch at each other so much, let us introduce the main event for the day (for some reason i feel like this is wrestling....lol)
THE NORI VS SHOGUN "WHO'S MY BITCH" MATCH!!!!!
Rules:
FT5
60 sec time limit
Buttons will be set.
Stages will be changed every match, regardless of winner's choice.
Loser must do one the following:
1. Procliaim that he's the winner's bitch. Will be placed in his signature until the next torunament
2. Wear a dog chain and take a picture with the winner
3. Wear a huge sign (courtesy of Nakofan64 which will happen) proclaiming that he's the winner's bitch and take a picture with the winner.
Now, to save some dignity for the loser, he will choose his fate.
And btw, it's not for either of you two to decide. It's the community's choice whether they want this to happen. Besides, i think it's a little more personal when public embarassment is on the line. And more entertaining for us.
^^
you'll be gracing your presence here lobo...? *sniff* That's awesome... bring all those AZ and NM lackies with you also
EDIT:
Nori & Shogun - Seriously, you two need to stop. This arguement between you two is getting old, and tiresome, and it's becoming a 1-hit wonder.
Nori: bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch.
Shogun: complain, argue, bitch, complain
Nori: bitch more, complain, bitch, bitch bitch,
Shogun: disagree, complain more, bitch, argue, bitch.
See my point? Just prove it once and for all. So since both of you like to bitch at each other so much, let us introduce the main event for the day (for some reason i feel like this is wrestling....lol)
THE NORI VS SHOGUN "WHO'S MY BITCH" MATCH!!!!!
Rules:
FT5
60 sec time limit
Buttons will be set.
Stages will be changed every match, regardless of winner's choice.
Loser must do one the following:
1. Procliaim that he's the winner's bitch. Will be placed in his signature until the next torunament
2. Wear a dog chain and take a picture with the winner
3. Wear a huge sign (courtesy of Nakofan64 which will happen) proclaiming that he's the winner's bitch and take a picture with the winner.
Now, to save some dignity for the loser, he will choose his fate.
And btw, it's not for either of you two to decide. It's the community's choice whether they want this to happen. Besides, i think it's a little more personal when public embarassment is on the line. And more entertaining for us.
BatousaiNori
[10] Knight
GMMA & Monsters Arcade @ QuakeCon in Dalla FREE Tourney: Results and Shout
Belial: I just thought it was funny he was hitting me w/stupid crap in casuals and then acting like it's a good idea. I'm not "mad" cause the guy is nowhere near my level, I have no worries at all and I placed higher than him when it counted in the tournament. It's just surprising of how he thinks of things, that's all.
Lobo: Make sure you SEE the cash before you agree to a match, this guy is a little cunt when it comes to money. He'll hype shit up and then all this sudden not have it, be careful.
LOL you are joke of a player and an even worse human being for how you treat money matches. GTFO, I'm convinced you've never even SEEN $15 dollars. You already tried challenging TX Cervantes players and look how that ended for you. You stand no chance against me. I wouldn't waste my time on you in a MM, cause let's be real, you don't have any money. Plus, you are a garbage human being anyway, so I wouldnt' even socialize w/you. You don't even have 1 char you are good w/, let alone 10, stop lying. This is what happened the last time you challenged a Cervantes player, you would think you would learn.
Belial: I just thought it was funny he was hitting me w/stupid crap in casuals and then acting like it's a good idea. I'm not "mad" cause the guy is nowhere near my level, I have no worries at all and I placed higher than him when it counted in the tournament. It's just surprising of how he thinks of things, that's all.
Lobo: Make sure you SEE the cash before you agree to a match, this guy is a little cunt when it comes to money. He'll hype shit up and then all this sudden not have it, be careful.
GMMA & Monsters Arcade @ QuakeCon in Dalla FREE Tourney: Results and Shout
Ouch Nori those are harsh words. I know that you and I have our little fued going, but damn... to call somebody a "joke of a player and even worse human being" is just wrong. Then to add on calling him a "cunt" lol. That's some RL hatred there and not just shit talk.
Ouch Nori those are harsh words. I know that you and I have our little fued going, but damn... to call somebody a "joke of a player and even worse human being" is just wrong. Then to add on calling him a "cunt" lol. That's some RL hatred there and not just shit talk.