Soul Calibur 5 Guest/Bonus/CAS Character Discussion

Gatsu,

Technically, according to the AC storyline, Altair is more of the weapons master as the Assassins were a collection of warriors who trained for fighting since birth, they even had their own central base. After the first AC, Altair moved the Assassins to a more in the shadows background, like the assassins we know of today. Ezio follows those footsteps, even though in the gameplay you can wage a one man war against the entire city if you felt like it.

Frankly, Altair would make a better fit than Ezio, following the logic of the story. Saying the logic was followed that is.
 
Gatsu said:
...say the "Hell, it worked for Smash Brothers..." dude
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Not quite sure I see the correlation between my smash brothers comment and useless bashing.

Try again.

On topic, I think we can all agree that the three most likely guest characters will be Ezio or the other dude from Assasin's Creed, Lightning from Final Fantasy XIII, and/or Bayonetta from her namesake title.
 
It's not about who will fit better, It's about who is most likely to be in the game. As much as Enzio would fit into the combat system and story, he doesn't have the selling power as any final fantasy character. Lightning can fit into the gameplay and is likely to sell more copies if she's in it. If it is Lightning we'll probably get the other guy from the trailer.
 
FenrisZero said:
It's not about who will fit better, It's about who is most likely to be in the game. As much as Enzio would fit into the combat system and story, he doesn't have the selling power as any final fantasy character. Lightning can fit into the gameplay and is likely to sell more copies if she's in it. If it is Lightning we'll probably get the other guy from the trailer.
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In his Twitter, Daishi-san said guest characters are already decided, and he was saying that if he can make an agreement with Square Enix, he would make Lightning as guest. Now I wonder who will be the guest ?..
 
The only prediction about guests I'd make at this point is, like the last games, there will be at least three. Seeing as we're looking at a three console release this time around, that number seems to fit.

What I don't like about all this is that with the guests comes an outside influence. With SC4 for instance, Lucasarts wanted to maintain authenticity for their characters, which as well as superficial things (you are unable to modify their appearance in CaS mode), is their fighting style.

I fear what we are going to get with SC5 is a bland, heavy-set fighting style that will be heavily influenced by the license holder. It will be exactly what most of you claim to not want, a throw-away character that's only there to boost sales and hype. People will buy the game for those characters, get bored after a while, then those who don't will find their character banned from tournys anyway.
 
I apologize for going a little off topic here; but why exactly were Darth Vader and The Apprentice banned, anyways? Was it because of the force meter? Looking at them from an unbiased point of view, neither seem overpowered, really.

Of course, everyone can see why they banned Yoda, but that's not the point.
 
They aren't banned in North America.

Once Vader/Yoda became available on both consoles they were allowed.

Only France and a few other scenes don't allow them.
 
I'd also like to echo Yoda was the worst character in the game, like... he was his own tier of the worst. Apprentice ended up being mid tier, and Vader upper mid tier. Nothing amazing or broken.

-Idle
 
Yoda was broken. He was so small it messed up your strings and grabs; and his only attack it seems is that forward lunge thing.

Think back to any matches against a yoda, and try to remember a victory where you didn't sidestep and mash B... :P
 
MrGruntsworthy said:
Yoda was broken. He was so small it messed up your strings and grabs; and his only attack it seems is that forward lunge thing.

Think back to any matches against a yoda, and try to remember a victory where you didn't sidestep and mash B... :P
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Your obviously uneducated on all the ways to beat Yoda, either that or you're a purely online player.

The forward lunge is 6B. Guess what? It hits HIGH. That's right, you can duck it.

He has half the SG of every other character in the game.

Force him to block Asta 44B. Then do it again.
And again.
And again.
He CANT sidestep it, and you can vary the timing so he can't GI it either. If it hits, he has to either take the grounded hit, or stand up and block it. It only takes 5.

With Cass, you can 2A and FC3B him to death because none of his fast moves don't get auto-parried by FC3B.

With any character with a backwards movement technique, like Mitsu backdash into RLC stance, you can hit him once and literally just RUN AWAY FROM HIM FOR AN ENTIRE ROUND, because he cannot catch you.

With apprentice you can hit him once and flip around like a moron for 59 seconds.

He cant even GET IN on Ivy, she can effectively push him out (and soul crush him) the entire match.

Worst character in the game, by far. Not by opinion, by fact and results.

-Idle
 
yeah, I mostly only play online. Not much of a Soul Calibur scene around here. The only gaming community I know of is at my college, which they seem to play Street Figher. And I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but I'd rather not associate with them either; they're pompous douchebag hipsters in every sense of the word. Fedoras and everything. (On that note, my college seems to be a damn Team Fortress convention--hats, hats everywhere)

Didn't know about the ducking Yoda's lunge thing. That's pretty neat.
 
MammothMan said:
Gatsu,

Technically, according to the AC storyline, Altair is more of the weapons master as the Assassins were a collection of warriors who trained for fighting since birth, they even had their own central base. After the first AC, Altair moved the Assassins to a more in the shadows background, like the assassins we know of today. Ezio follows those footsteps, even though in the gameplay you can wage a one man war against the entire city if you felt like it.

Frankly, Altair would make a better fit than Ezio, following the logic of the story. Saying the logic was followed that is.
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Well Altair in AC story is more considered "legendary" by Ezio being his ancestor... but talking about pure fighting Ezio get a way better,more advanced and modern training... and overall his approach is waaaaay more straight and "fighter" (just think at Brotherhood)
Basically
Altair= like you said,classic assassin way. Is still more able than his opponents btw
Ezio= more an high skilled weapon master that use stealth,because in real world 1vs500 don't work
Gameplay= AC is'nt that good,so both Altair and Ezio can pwn legion big as LotR just using smart the counter move :D

To not count that aside the way better chara design (more complex and fitting with SC),as timeline he's near to SC period... where Altair adventure is around 1100 ac
 
Some fair points there, Idle, his half SG is indeed a joke. Otherwise some small exaggerations and a hint of ignorance... No doubt he's difficult, but it sounds like if you think he's as bad as you say you do, you dropped him pretty early... Don't listen to me though, not a lot of offline experience here, with Yoda anyway...

And just to clarify, the French did not ban the Star Wars characters because they were 'broken', they banned them because they were guests, and they were playing Soul Calibur.
 
I'm" just going to say that if fucking Darth Vader and Yoda got on Soul Calibur, It can't get much worse or left field and I dare anyone to try. As long as they don't pull that shitty ass marketing stunt with SCV that they did with SCIV (which they will probably do), It'll be all good with me.
 
Jrasta111 said:
Some fair points there, Idle, his half SG is indeed a joke. Otherwise some small exaggerations and a hint of ignorance... No doubt he's difficult, but it sounds like if you think he's as bad as you say you do, you dropped him pretty early... Don't listen to me though, not a lot of offline experience here, with Yoda anyway...

And just to clarify, the French did not ban the Star Wars characters because they were 'broken', they banned them because they were guests, and they were playing Soul Calibur.
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It's not really exaggeration, it comes from beating Yoda's in tournaments, for years, offline. Yoda can only win on ignorance, like Maxi or Rock, but a million times worse because you only need one trick to beat him with most of the cast... whereas with Rock and Maxi you need to go into the lab to beat them. Playing against Yoda isn't even playing against another player, it's playing to do one simple trick and the match is over; no inflation on that point, really.

Also, if I came off sounding like a dick, I'm sorry. Message boards have this terrible way about them. Please, carry on your discussion folks.

-Idle
 
well Daishi said he would like to have Final Fantasy Characters. but there are alot to chose from, and aside from that Lightning from XIII-2 wouldn't happen, maybe current Lightning but not from XIII-2. The Reason is because Lightning was Scraped from the Original Dissidia because FFXIII had not come out yet, Tetsuya Nomora didn't want to reveal her gameplay before her own game was release(think of it was a way of spoilers). Other then the Licensing, It's possible for Lightning to be in the game...i mean Cervantes has a gun too >_>'
 
IdleMind said:
It's not really exaggeration, it comes from beating Yoda's in tournaments, for years, offline. Yoda can only win on ignorance, like Maxi or Rock, but a million times worse because you only need one trick to beat him with most of the cast... whereas with Rock and Maxi you need to go into the lab to beat them. Playing against Yoda isn't even playing against another player, it's playing to do one simple trick and the match is over; no inflation on that point, really.

Also, if I came off sounding like a dick, I'm sorry. Message boards have this terrible way about them. Please, carry on your discussion folks.

-Idle
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I just wanted to be clear about why they were banned, as it seems important to my point.

I find your facts and experience interesting, posting on forums has a way of making everyone sound bad, to someone else, somewhere.
 
Final Fantasy Characters for me please. Lightning, Fang, Cloud, Sephiroth, Zack, etc.. Either of them will be fine for me.
 
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