For Hilde, I am pretty confident on my numbers. I know Setsuka's strengh... and I know her weaknesses :( That you probably wouldn't know if you aren't a hardcore Sets player :)
Every tool I NEED in this match up is insanely risky.
I need :
- 1B:B > in order to damage her the most, it's even better than B+K. Alas... 1) it can be stepped > doom combo I die 2) if Hilde has C3 A, she can release the C3 A between the first and second B ... you guessed it ... autoGI > doom combo I die (it's not even hard to do :/ )
- 11A > works in the same way as Ivy's SW 2A+K... except it isn't as good in every part. 1) hilde can step it > doom combo I die 2) it lacks range.
- I need A+K A (one of her best tool against Hilde actually, Malek said RTD punished me everytime I used that move and ... when I watched the vid again, even if I played poorly, I didn't saw that)
- I need throws because it's my best antistep tools but... what if she ducks (risk/reward for Hilde isn't the same as for other character, as you know it)...
- Her 7K is a real pain to deal with ... it evades a lot of my damaging options at close range, in order to punish it, I need to backdash (in order to whiff punish her) but ... it's counter productive ... since I want to be at close range...
- can't zone her at all 33B/66A is useless.
- 6K is a good move upclose but it lacks range and can be stepped.
If I had a move that could put me OTG (like Ivy's 44K) I would have put 7-3... but I haven't ... so IMO it's a fucking 7,5-2,5.
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As for Amy, I kinda agree with you... but IMO it's even. Even if I completely choked in the GF, Thugish doesn't know Setsuka at all... if he did, the beatdown would have been even more harder for me :
- B+K can be WS B punished
- 1B:B can be freely B+K K autoGIed (no timing at all, very easy... could confirm it against Human Typhoon)
- After A+G, A+K B can be rolled and completely avoided ... and although I have answer against this against X, Astaroth and Setsuka (yeah Setsuka is completely lacking in her mirror match), it doesn't fucking work against amy ... you need to do a JF in order for it to work (she's too small > it should allows for a free side grab but it doesn't connect). Insanely hard to time right.
- 1A
A can be 33B punished
- 8B doesn't connect everytime :/ When it's her best jumping move (this moves is TJ, tracks and it's a mid...).
Amy has a better step than Setsuka, and can lock down a character (of course that's only if you don't guess right > KD > startover) preventing her from getting back the momentum. With this IMO it is even. The A+G thing is INSANELY horrible when you play Setsuka.
Of course you have your own tools against Amy (that I used so poorly in the GF) : 4A is insane against her, 11A is a good move, A+K B is very good too, when you step she just cry, etc...
If Setsuka has the adv. it is only 5,5-4,5 IMO. Just like against Ivy.
Yuan :
Even if I love it, your way of playing X is especially bad if Setsuka starts to turtle. I like to rushdown with her, but she is probably more of a turtle character (I know I win more when I turtle haha).
My match against Kayane was much harder for me because she attacks so much (even if I lost the first match stupidly -my fault entirely - it was my most stressfull match in the entire tourney actually). Attack more, and it should help ;)
When people say "X cannot be stepped with Sets" it is not really true. Sets can step very good tools like FC 3B, 44B, 3K, WS K, aK, etc...
And you're right for Hilde against Setsuka. But not really because of her FC options (she still can 236 you in order to get more range or other things like that). More 1K and 2B is actually good for Sets since it allows for more damage options (more step opportunities = more free damage).
