Skyrim

Ok it's Skyrim story time...

Once upon a time, before I'd tried this game I read this post: (cut down somewhat to be relevant)

lobo said:
5: um...they are not hostile. stay away if you can't kill them. range attacks own them hard. their slam may knock you back, but it doesn't hurt unless you are CLOSE. they are considered friendly NPCs as far as i'm concerned. next time a dragon attacks you, try running to them. THEN tell me that they aren't awesome...or kill them easily w/ magic or arrows and enjoy the bullshit 500 worth of shit you get. they are invaluable allies. why are you attacking them?
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So I get around to playing it, I'm going across the open areas with less snow near Whiterun and lo and behold a dragon decides it wants a piece of me. Nearby I spot a giant, with his two mammoths, and remembering this I decide the fight might be more in my favour over there...

So... I run over to the giant with the dragon blasting my horses backside, curious about how awesome this giant was going to be (my previous encounter with giants had left me wondering about this as the first had knocked me literally into orbit and the second had forced me to use the current of a nearby river to make a getaway, not wanting a repeat experience). I was sure this giant wouldn't attack me unless I attacked him or the mammoths first so I was quite confident he would live up to these claims.

So what happened, was the giant awesome, you ask? Well it was pretty awesome the sight of the giant turning tail and RUNNING AWAY, leaving his mammoths and my horse to do the fighting... Well, dragons can be pretty scary...
 
Jrasta111 said:
Ok it's Skyrim story time...

So I get around to playing it, I'm going across the open areas with less snow near Whiterun and lo and behold a dragon decides it wants a piece of me. Nearby I spot a giant, with his two mammoths, and remembering this I decide the fight might be more in my favour over there...

So... I run over to the giant with the dragon blasting my horses backside, curious about how awesome this giant was going to be (my previous encounter with giants had left me wondering about this as the first had knocked me literally into orbit and the second had forced me to use the current of a nearby river to make a getaway, not wanting a repeat experience). I was sure this giant wouldn't attack me unless I attacked him or the mammoths first so I was quite confident he would live up to these claims.

So what happened, was the giant awesome, you ask? Well it was pretty awesome the sight of the giant turning tail and RUNNING AWAY, leaving his mammoths and my horse to do the fighting... Well, dragons can be pretty scary...
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That's just the way the A.I. system works with giants. When the target is unreachable to the A.I. the option it chooses is to get out of range of the attacker and find something big enough to hide behind. You said that you where near Whiterun correct? If I remember correctly the area around Whiterun is open field and has nothing big enough for a giant or mammoth to hide behind. Giants are okay when it comes to helping out, but during dragon fights the giants become a little unpredictable.
 
The main trick is to get the dragon to land near the giants, then the giants will help tear it up. (up to a certain point anyways, an Ancient Dragon will make mincemeat out of them) Just make sure you don't get too close to the giants yourself since they are range sensitive and will turn hostile if you get within a certain range.
 
^ What the #$%^! :D

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So, I lost Shadowmere while raiding a Storm Cloak fort, I checked back at all of the forts to see if she is still there, but I can't find her... Anyone have this problem, and if they have, is there no way to recover her? I miss my horsey... :(
 
They do, if you fast travel IIRC.

The more I play Skyrim, the more I like Oblivion. I'm getting kind of disappointed with the game.
 
I might buy a used Skyrim after I take a break from Soul Calibur V, but who knows how long that will be...
Anyways, I've seen some gameplay of Skyrim, and it looks really good. :)
 
Ring said:
They do, if you fast travel IIRC.

The more I play Skyrim, the more I like Oblivion. I'm getting kind of disappointed with the game.
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So many people who's first elderscrolls game was Oblivion hated on us Morrowind players when we said this. I will simply say, welcome to the fold, brother.
 
I once played Morrowind but I didn't like it. It was back when FFX came out. I was used to beautiful and linear jrpgs back then. Morrowind was such a turn off for me, it was overwhelming with its size and I couldn't bare seeing the hilarious 3rd person animation.

Oblivion was the first ES game I actually liked.
 
Kinda makes you wonder what the next elder scrolls is gonna be like, that is, if they continue this trend of dumbing it down every game.

I've said this before, but I think it's due to a generation shift in gamers. The old-timer gamers like me are not being marketed to anymore, so the games get easier and easier to cater to a younger audience who hasn't yet developed a firm grasp of reason and logic (no pun intended), or who simply don't have the long-term experience with RPG type elements in games.

One of the biggest marketing setbacks for RPG's is that not everyone can grasp the in's and out's and micromanage their character. It involves math, thinking ahead, and sticking with the path you set. I know MANY people who refuse to play any RPG because it's "too complicated".

So I suppose a smart businessman would make the games easier so that more casual people play them. What they don't seem to understand is that RPG's were never "casual" in the first place. They were designed for nerdy geeks like myself :)
 
damn-I-Suck said:
So I suppose a smart businessman would make the games easier so that more casual people play them. What they don't seem to understand is that RPG's were never "casual" in the first place. They were designed for nerdy geeks like myself :)
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Kinda what's happening to Soulcalibur right now. It's getting easier with each new title, a nod to casual players. But at least they have added a lot of new system mechanics to make the game more fun, in Skyrim I think like they took more then they gave.
 
Ring said:
I once played Morrowind but I didn't like it. It was back when FFX came out. I was used to beautiful and linear jrpgs back then. Morrowind was such a turn off for me, it was overwhelming with its size and I couldn't bare seeing the hilarious 3rd person animation.

Oblivion was the first ES game I actually liked.
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I wasn't saying you had to like morrowind, I was saying you're now the fogey pining for the previous iteration instead of the hot new product. For that matter I never thought the 3rd person animations were hilarious, but I was lost in the fantastically original and vast world. I thought the country side and towns of that game were beautiful in their own right.

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But it's a shame you didn't enjoy it because then you'd know that oblivion was really significantly dumbed down from Morrowind. Is it too much to ask for beauty and brains?
 
And I guess Morrowind was dumbed down from Daggerfall? ;)

Maybe I will try Morrowind again sometime. Back when I first played it I was like 13 years old and my english wasn't any good. I remember that cities in Morrowind were a part of the world, not a different area that you had to enter and wait till it loads, like in Skyrim/Oblivion.
 
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