damn-I-Suck
[12] Conqueror
dude, crysack, give it up man. If you try fighting with the mods, you will always lose.
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Ring
Lay still now
Some characters should be higher I think (Zwei, Algol, Mitsu)
I'm glad Leixia got nerfed a bit and she's mid like Ivy now. I hated the matchup , now it's gonna be more even xD
damn-I-Suck
[12] Conqueror
I've yet to really play around with Ivy yet. How is she in this game? (hopefully not as OP as sc4 Ivy)
She still has her strong throw game, with meter this becomes a nightmare: her CE is practically unreactable now and deals 100 damage. With two bars in a final round scenario, which will happen quite often with Ivy its basically GGs as its not like Astaroth - Ivy is a character you don't want to randomly duck against at close range a lot and her CE forces you to. FC 1B is a safe launcher which deals 70-90 dmg, reverse RO and TC. Mid range zoning can only be dealt with easily by a handful of characters. The sweep is still a reaction barrier to even compete with her at close range. 1A+B is safe on block, 6B2_8 tracks, 3[A] is a side and backstep killer, though unsafe, 9B is... 9B and 214B is only -14.
Competitive but not broken pre patch. Ivy players crying of course got her superficial nerfs and a shitload of buffs even after she won two major tournaments. If you can play her, learn her.
Imo Top 10 character, not top 5 though.
*edit* Cue Ivy players to say she is an unplayable mess and expect further buffs, including 3[A] to be an unblockable that combos into CE as a start. And I'm not biased - I'm learning her in fact, haha.
Competitive but not broken pre patch. Ivy players crying of course got her superficial nerfs and a shitload of buffs even after she won two major tournaments. If you can play her, learn her.
Imo Top 10 character, not top 5 though.
*edit* Cue Ivy players to say she is an unplayable mess and expect further buffs, including 3[A] to be an unblockable that combos into CE as a start. And I'm not biased - I'm learning her in fact, haha.
Ring
Lay still now
She's ok now, doesn't excel anywhere. Seems like a balanced character now, not something we can complain about.
Ryoka
[09] Warrior
This is more than can be said for Tira. The wails from her SA can be heard throughout the mountains for being heavily overnerfed for no obvious reason.
SCPartisan
Holy Moly
So clean.
Azazel
[12] Conqueror
U gotta admit I did a good job with my list XD
justalex
[08] Mercenary
Our tears will blot out the sun
srsgamer87
[09] Warrior
Yeah it's a good list, I think it's the closest thing we can all agree on for now. Are you gonna update it after NorCal and MLG?
Ring
Lay still now
I guess =)
If nothing changes (another patch) Viola might end up top tier in a few months.
MntT77
[10] Knight
Call me an idiot if you wish, but I really don't see how Siegfried is that high. He really doesn't have a lot going for him...
Algol in mid tier is just a no. Also I dont think cerv is as good as alpha. High tier, but not as high as alpha. If anyone is as high as alpha its algol and pyrrha.
Also Sieg belong into low tier until his hitbox issues are fixed.
Can agree with the rest tho.
ChaosK
[13] Hero
This will never happen until someone actually teaches japan the sieg MU. The last japanese tourney was a big rofl-stomp-festival for that sieg player.
Solo
[14] Master
I wish I could get away with that many blocked 3B. Lol
Fallacy
[08] Mercenary
I think Cervantes is on alpha's level, definitely. I'd give algol high-mid maybe low-high tier.
I like this list a lot because it's the only one which I think places Patroklos correctly.
Cervantes is in no way on alphas level. He is way to punishable and cant build pressure as well as alpha can do. Also I think he is so straight-forward that anyone with good MU knowledge can trash him. While knowing the alpha MU isnt half as good because he just has stuff you cant do jack about. Basing this solely on the competetive plays with both ive watched so far and at no point cervy seemed too strong tbh.
Azazel
[12] Conqueror
iGDR, u control that, u control the game, besides everyone got nerf but him, so for me he is top.
Sacharja
[12] Conqueror
Coming from Ring this means the bitch is OH PEE again. Ban that whore, I say!
Ring
Lay still now
Exposed again =P
Well, compared to pre-patch Ivy, she now can control step better with 3[A], it's still high risk/medium reward move though. Most of her horizontals are stepable to one side, so she needed this. Not much has changed except this and CE, which seems to be a bit on the broken side this time and it's among the best CEs in the game.
Like I said many times, I disliked the idea of CE throws from the very beginning. They are either useless or too good. It's too hard to balance them properly.
Yeah, that's what I think, too. He's more unsafe than Alpha but controls step better, his guard burst is sick, damage is comparable and his range is better I think. Also I think iGDR profits from the backdash nerf.
Well, compared to pre-patch Ivy, she now can control step better with 3[A], it's still high risk/medium reward move though. Most of her horizontals are stepable to one side, so she needed this. Not much has changed except this and CE, which seems to be a bit on the broken side this time and it's among the best CEs in the game.
Like I said many times, I disliked the idea of CE throws from the very beginning. They are either useless or too good. It's too hard to balance them properly.
Yeah, that's what I think, too. He's more unsafe than Alpha but controls step better, his guard burst is sick, damage is comparable and his range is better I think. Also I think iGDR profits from the backdash nerf.
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