Mitsurugi General Discussion and Q&A

i didnt even know anyone seriously mained ezio, and i really dont want to insult you for doing so, i just feel its a uphill battle. every time i fight a ezio, they're easy wins because ezio has many gaps in his strings.
If you don't like uphill battles then I would try Omega, Alpha, Cervantes, or stick with Mitsu and improve your fundamentals.
 
Ezio has some nice frametraps with his 3B, nice whiff punisher with his 4B, can be effective at long range, has nice Brave Edge moves along side a great Critical Edge.

The reason he's not that high on tier lists is that he lacks regular combos that aren't counter hit combos/wall combos and is sort of reliant on meter.
 
If you don't like uphill battles then I would try Omega, Alpha, Cervantes, or stick with Mitsu and improve your fundamentals.
ah it wasnt that i dont like a challenge, infact the way you put that made me relies how hypocritical i made my self out to be...

as far as fundamentals go ile probably need to work on those no mater what, but quick question, alpha pat not a uphill battle? i tried his just frames out of curiosity, there insane!
 
Ezio has some nice frametraps with his 3B, nice whiff punisher with his 4B, can be effective at long range, has nice Brave Edge moves along side a great Critical Edge.

The reason he's not that high on tier lists is that he lacks regular combos that aren't counter hit combos/wall combos and is sort of reliant on meter.
yes wen i think about it those are the exact things im able to take advantage of while fighting ezio, how ever ive still yet to fight a skilled ezio, so i could be proven wrong in a major way.
 
Why would Alpha Pat be an uphill battle..?

He's up there with Omega, Cervantes, Viola, etc...
cus of dem just frames! there so hard to land consistently! unless hes still a ok character without them, every alpha pat ive fought has ben able to utilize them anyways, so i wouldnt know.
 
but quick question, alpha pat not a uphill battle? i tried his just frames out of curiosity, there insane!
He doesn't have a bad match up I can think of. Your execution doesn't make it an uphill battle, the match up does (ex. Nightmare v Astaroth or Siegfried v Pyrrah Omega). Your execution can make the fight harder but that isn't your character's fault.
 
He doesn't have a bad match up I can think of. Your execution doesn't make it an uphill battle, the match up does (ex. Nightmare v Astaroth or Siegfried v Pyrrah Omega). Your execution can make the fight harder but that isn't your character's fault.
i guess i understand what your saying, but it would probably be a while before i came along to master just frames enough for me to want to rely on him. btw ive forgotten to thank you for your help, so ile say it now, thanks alot.
 
He's execution dependent, so if you can't pull off his JF moves, then don't expect to do well as him.
its not like i doubt my learning ability or training ethnic, but being able to well time a 1 frame window in the heat of combat is a little much for my spazy finger antics to get use too. (btw thank you for your help as well)
 
i guess i understand what your saying, but it would probably be a while before i came along to master just frames enough for me to want to rely on him. btw ive forgotten to thank you for your help, so ile say it now, thanks alot.
If you want a strong low execution character I would say Mitsu... but that is invalid in this situation. I would try out Patroklos and Pyrrah. They are great characters that give you a good payoff for fundamental play.
 
If you want a strong low execution character I would say Mitsu... but that is invalid in this situation. I would try out Patroklos and Pyrrah. They are great characters that give you a good payoff for fundamental play.
pat is going to be a option im going to look into soon, but what about characters like natsu? she seems really fast and variable with her tactics, and her stun combos and meter seem to be pretty good as well. in terms of learning i wouldnt mind putting the work in to get use to her.
 
pat is going to be a option im going to look into soon, but what about characters like natsu? she seems really fast and variable with her tactics, and her stun combos and meter seem to be pretty good as well. in terms of learning i wouldnt mind putting the work in to get use to her.
I can't say much about Natsu, I know the match up too well to really say anything. It would be bias. She does good damage but lacks mixups, she relies on CH, whiff baiting, and punishment.

As for Pat, I know he has a few issues but getting 66B, 66B+K, 236K after a GI getting nearly all of the spent meter back is quite nice.
 
I can't say much about Natsu, I know the match up too well to really say anything. It would be bias. She does good damage but lacks mixups, she relies on CH, whiff baiting, and punishment.

As for Pat, I know he has a few issues but getting 66B, 66B+K, 236K after a GI getting nearly all of the spent meter back is quite nice.

that does sound nice....im going to try pat, your kind of scaring me out of natsu so ile try her later

and last question, i know you've already helped me alot, but what do you think about maxi, viola, and lexia (possible later choices i might explore)
 
that does sound nice....im going to try pat, your kind of scaring me out of natsu so ile try her later

and last question, i know you've already helped me alot, but what do you think about maxi, viola, and lexia (possible later choices i might explore)
I can't say about Maxi or Leixia, I hardly know anything about them. Viola has excellent damage and mixups but is bad at punishing step; also has bad match ups with Sieg/NM, I hear she is favorable against nearly everyone else though.
 
I can't say about Maxi or Leixia, I hardly know anything about them. Viola has excellent damage and mixups but is bad at punishing step; also has bad match ups with Sieg/NM, I hear she is favorable against nearly everyone else though.
thanks alot, im going to go practice my pat game and explore a little bit, thank you once again for all your help
 
Just a head's up guys - I was practicing block punishment vs Mitsurugi and 3B BE is punishable by Alpha's CE, which means the frame data is wrong, it is at least -8 on block, would somebody retest? Thanks.
 
Simply changing characters won't change anything. I would suggest becoming more familiar with the game as a whole before settling on a character. And also try to learn a bit of everyone, knowing your character exclusively puts you at a great disadvantage.
 
It won't change anything? Different characters have different learning curves - of course it'll make a difference. There are many different types of characters to choose from (range, close combat, combo, etc).

And also try to learn a bit of everyone, knowing your character exclusively puts you at a great disadvantage.
I will agree with this though.
 
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