Balance Patch Discussion

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Solo said:
All I want is for Sieg not to whiff as much and more meterless damage off of 3B, at least 50. Remove AC from SCH K so we can connect both knees for 50 damage. Also let WR B hit grounded, it going right through people just looks stupid. I know you can just do 3B but it just going right through them has to be the biggest whiff I have ever seen.
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^This^
 
YoshiKatYoko said:
I just want to ask Ramon/Suirad/Partisan on their thoughts about Pyrrha. I myself is a good Omega - so I don't need to ask any other Omega players.

I don't care if DNS B doesn't hit rolls or non moving (except for combos) if you have 66B as a good OTG killer and forced block situations. We're talking about it as a very high damage as a single attack - that's why I want to nerf it. JF T is a good punisher - you just need to get it consistent to pull off as a punisher/in a combo 'cause it whiffs pretty badly.
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You obviously don't know so I'm not sure why you don't ask some high level player's opinions.

Just because something is hard to pull off doesn't mean that it is a worse attack. Also I have never had it whiff or ever seen it whiff or even hear someone complain about it randomly whiff. Yes it whiffs if it is to far away or if they sidestep but it doesn't whiff. JFT is a better attack than DNS B.
 
InvadahSC said:
No need to reply about buffs and nerfs, but honestly I want to nerf the best characters in the game (Mitsu, Algol and Astaroth to be exact). I also want to nerf PyrrhaO's stab damage, YoshiKatYoko explains it all.
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There are better characters than Algol and Astaroth lol. Neither are considered the best.

Also, you need a pretty good reason to nerf the damage on that. She's a Greek. She's supposed to be good at punishing. Also, its meant to scare the opponent into playing safer. If it didn't do so much damage, it wouldn't be nearly as scary. YoshiKatYoko doesn't explain it at all and just makes lots of invalid 'facts'.
 
Paranormal_Oreo said:
You obviously don't know so I'm not sure why you don't ask some high level player's opinions.

Just because something is hard to pull off doesn't mean that it is a worse attack. Also I have never had it whiff or ever seen it whiff or even hear someone complain about it randomly whiff. Yes it whiffs if it is to far away or if they sidestep but it doesn't whiff. JFT is a better attack than DNS B.
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I'm not saying that it IS A WORST attack. I'm not saying that it whiffs on general consensus - I'm saying it is BAD on WHIFF. LOL.

Invalid facts? Or are you just really misunderstanding my posts like the one above?
 
YoshiKatYoko said:
I'm not saying that it IS A WORST attack. I'm not saying that it whiffs on general consensus - I'm saying it is BAD on WHIFF. LOL.

Invalid facts? Or are you just really misunderstanding my posts like the one above?
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So is DNS B. Both are bad on whiff. Most things are bad on whiff. I just don't see why you want to nerf her stabs when Alpha's JFT is just as good.
 
Then I want to nerf JF T then. Happy?

HRD

I'm not in to you or anything, but I'll just keep this thread by the rules. I know all moves ARE really bad on whiffing. If you use the move correctly and consistently, there's a less chance it would not whiff. I think I'm just not good at JF T (both punish and combos) so I tend to whiff it. As of the moment, I still want (for the sake of balancing) Pyrrha O's stabs damage nerfs.
 
Damage Buffs:
  • Raphael
  • Leixia
  • Ezio Auditore
  • Tira
  • Pyrrha/Pyrrha Omega
Damage Nerfs:
  • Mitsurugi
  • Maxi
  • Z.W.E.I.
  • Nightmare
  • Natsu
 
lxhizy said:
Damage Buffs:
  • Raphael
  • Leixia
  • Ezio Auditore
  • Tira
  • Pyrrha/Pyrrha Omega
Damage Nerfs:

  • Mitsurugi
  • Maxi
  • Z.W.E.I.
  • Nightmare
  • Natsu
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Err.. Pyrrha Omega already gets VERY high damage. I don't see why you need to buff her out. She can consistently pull out good damage at an easy input.
 
Solo said:
Really? I don't think you understand much those 3 work for their damage. PyrrhaO also does enough damage already, more damage than all 3 of them all while not having to work as hard for it.
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Nightmare is way too fast for his damage, just like mitsurugi, you can't even compare him to siegfried.
Pyrrha Omega doesn't do enough damage, actually her stab is her most effective hit, and it does about 30-40, 50-80 if you press the :4: , which is kinda difficult for a normal player, Maxi has been already nerfed, but he's still very strong, about Z.W.E.I. i'm not really sure.

anyways, if I had to pick one of them, i would go for nightmare, he MUST be nerfed. lol he's like a male natsu.
 
Paranormal_Oreo

Yeah, remove clean hit. I don't care if DNSB:4 gets nerf or not. Either way, I'm still sticking up with her -nods-.

Ixhizy

Pyrrha Omega's DNSB4 (not fire) is 72 damage. Still not satisfied? I even want to nerf it (lol). Her wall game is obliterating the opponent's HP with nearly 200 damage with JUST 1/2 meter.
 
lxhizy said:
Nightmare is way too fast for his damage, just like mitsurugi, you can't even compare him to siegfried.
Pyrrha Omega doesn't do enough damage, actually her stab is her most effective hit, and it does about 30-40, 50-80 if you press the :4: , Maxi has been already nerfed, but he's still very strong, about Z.W.E.I. i'm not really sure.

anyways, if I have to pick one of them, i would go for nightmare, he MUST be nerfed. lol he's like a male natsu.
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WTF? I don't even know where to start. NM, Maxi and Zwei are fine, leave them alone.

Omega, if in need for any changes, its nerfs.
 
lxhizy said:
Nightmare is way too fast for his damage, just like mitsurugi, you can't even compare him to siegfried.
Pyrrha Omega doesn't do enough damage, actually her stab is her most effective hit, and it does about 30-40, 50-80 if you press the :4: , Maxi has been already nerfed, but he's still very strong, about Z.W.E.I. i'm not really sure.

anyways, if I have to pick one of them, i would go for nightmare, he MUST be nerfed. lol he's like a male natsu.
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Ever look at Nightmare's frames? Ever notice he can't punish people block for shit? For Nightmare to be effective the Nightmare player must make reads on the opponent and punish them that way. Big damage for taking a risk and making the correct reads sounds good to me.
 
Ixhizy

Pyrrha Omega's DNSB4 (not fire) is 72 damage. Still not satisfied? I even want to nerf it (lol). Her wall game is obliterating the opponent's HP with nearly 200 damage with JUST 1/2 meter.
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A NERF? Really? have you ever seen sophitia? pyrrha omega is not even a half of what sophitia was, she was A BEAST, she is kinda underpowered now in my opinion.
Anyways, pyrrha omega is not so 'easy' to use, since most of her combos require a considerable speed on the player.
 
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