Lasercakes
[12] Conqueror
There's no way this move doesn't deserve its own thread. It may very well be the most unique and complicated move in the game and the Zwei SA so far imo hasn't done a very good job talking about all of its properties at length.
Properties:
- B+K can be used after a slight pause after B+K BE without interrupting B+K BE.
- B+K BE can be used immediately after B+K.
- Using other Ein moves (except B+K) before Ein comes out from B+K BE cancels B+K BE.
- Movement after B+K BE and B+K BE ~ B+K affects Ein's range.
- B+K BE can be delayed with (B+K) BE
- Successfully just guarding does not interrupt B+K BE.
- If Zwei is hit or grabbed B+K BE is interrupted.
- B+K BE is special mid.
- B+K BE and (B+K) BE have 30 active frames.
- If Zwei blocks an attack before Ein comes out B+K BE will be interrupted.
- Ein comes out 64 frames after inputting B+K BE. Impact at i77.
- Ein comes out 69 frames (Needs to be verified) after inputting (B+K) BE. Impact at i82.
Stuff to figure out:
- What's the block stun?
It will also be worth discussing B+K BE setups, canned setups and how effective they are, or any where else you can reliably get a B+K BE off (whiffs for example).
Properties:
- B+K can be used after a slight pause after B+K BE without interrupting B+K BE.
- B+K BE can be used immediately after B+K.
- Using other Ein moves (except B+K) before Ein comes out from B+K BE cancels B+K BE.
- Movement after B+K BE and B+K BE ~ B+K affects Ein's range.
- B+K BE can be delayed with (B+K) BE
- Successfully just guarding does not interrupt B+K BE.
- If Zwei is hit or grabbed B+K BE is interrupted.
- B+K BE is special mid.
- B+K BE and (B+K) BE have 30 active frames.
- If Zwei blocks an attack before Ein comes out B+K BE will be interrupted.
- Ein comes out 64 frames after inputting B+K BE. Impact at i77.
- Ein comes out 69 frames (Needs to be verified) after inputting (B+K) BE. Impact at i82.
Stuff to figure out:
- What's the block stun?
It will also be worth discussing B+K BE setups, canned setups and how effective they are, or any where else you can reliably get a B+K BE off (whiffs for example).