Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate

UNDERX said:
OK just saw the Trailer... OMG did Hayate and Ayane just KILL KASUMI ?!!? WTF

And Did Christi give Elliot a Roofi ? (date rape) WTF lol

Also I really really hope you can fight inside the subway!! ooohh this game!
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The Christi Roofie scenario I could see but damn Kasumi getting jumped by Ryu and Ayane caught me off guard. I like this storyline already! And just how many stages are there going to be? I swear a see a new one every couple days and they all look really good.

EDIT: I checked around and apparently the subway isn't a playable stage. Shame.
 
How hard is DOA to get into if you haven't played it before? Is it like Tekken where there's a steep learning curve or more like SC where its fairly easy to pick up and play?
 
Noct22 said:
Not necessary,when people started writing bibles about the frame data and whatever we call it,they also started missing an important point.Every single "good" fight in SC 2 ,3, and maybe 4 used to look like a choreography.That is what entertainment is about.
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You do realize that those 3 are deeply flawed. In fact, I believe Hates even wrote an article about it.
Reptile said:
Hey I was just wondering if you could sidestep attacks in DOA? Cause it's a 3D game but I've been hit every single time I thought I was succesfully stepping something. Is moving around only for positioning in this game?
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MorrowsWings said:
Yeah I have done it before... though not recommended.
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Sidestepping has been changed and is supposedly quite useful in this game.
 
Glad to hear it. As I play a very stong "spacing" oriented game in SCV, and I don't like getting hit by stuff I should have avoided.
 
d3v said:
You do realize that those 3 are deeply flawed. In fact, I believe Hates even wrote an article about it.
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He was talking from a casual/aesthetic standpoint, not a competitive one.

SCV's basic vs play is good enough to stand on its own, I believe. Of course, a story, nice cutscenes, emotional backing, etc. help to create drama. But, honestly, head-to-head gameplay is what fighters are all about. I used to be a casual player too, I do enjoy a good single-player experience now and then, but testing yourself against someone else is what it's really about.

But that is just a matter of opinion. as Reave said, people enjoy games in their own ways.

anyway, I believe this started talking about tiers. Honestly, you can be competitive (read- play seriously) and not worry about tiers... I don't believe in tiers off of sheer principle, unless DOA is that unbalanced that you have no chance.

War is deception, after all! It's not about strength, it's about smarts. That's my philosophy, anyway, I know some people disagree...
 
Noct22 said:
And what about the fifth one ?
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Everything he's written about it so far seems to indicate that he likes the game.
DrakeAldan said:
He was talking from a casual/aesthetic standpoint, not a competitive one.

SCV's basic vs play is good enough to stand on its own, I believe. Of course, a story, nice cutscenes, emotional backing, etc. help to create drama. But, honestly, head-to-head gameplay is what fighters are all about. I used to be a casual player too, I do enjoy a good single-player experience now and then, but testing yourself against someone else is what it's really about.
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And what better drama is there than that which comes from human competition? Heck, UMvC3 has effectively no story, but it's provided some of the best drama in fighting games this year (Fanatiq vs Ray Ray's money match, FChamp's runback against Infrit at EVO finals). Then there's KoFXIII with Mexico vs Korea at the EVO finals with Bala vs Mad KOF, that crowd alone made that feel like a World Cup match? Those were more emotionally involving than anything from any game's story.
Noct22 said:
But that is just a matter of opinion. as Reave said, people enjoy games in their own ways.

anyway, I believe this started talking about tiers. Honestly, you can be competitive (read- play seriously) and not worry about tiers... I don't believe in tiers off of sheer principle, unless DOA is thatunbalanced that you have no chance.
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You can never truly succeed if you don't at the very least, keep tiers and (more importantly) the matchup chart behind it at the back of your mind. Because doing so implies an understanding of the match up and how to best win it.
 
DrakeAldan said:
He was talking from a casual/aesthetic standpoint, not a competitive one.

SCV's basic vs play is good enough to stand on its own, I believe. Of course, a story, nice cutscenes, emotional backing, etc. help to create drama. But, honestly, head-to-head gameplay is what fighters are all about. I used to be a casual player too, I do enjoy a good single-player experience now and then, but testing yourself against someone else is what it's really about.

But that is just a matter of opinion. as Reave said, people enjoy games in their own ways.

anyway, I believe this started talking about tiers. Honestly, you can be competitive (read- play seriously) and not worry about tiers... I don't believe in tiers off of sheer principle, unless DOA is that unbalanced that you have no chance.

War is deception, after all! It's not about strength, it's about smarts. That's my philosophy, anyway, I know some people disagree...
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At the end of the day, past single player experience and all that jazz, I just want BALANCE. Theres nothing better than fun balanced gameplay.
 
0VincentRayne0 said:
those run counters? or mitsurugi tracking verticals? :D
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No. I meant in SCV I'm used to play an effective zoning game which doesn't involve me getting hit.
In DOA I try to do this but I fail miserably. And I'd like it to work in DOA5 because it's a 3D game.
I like that when I sidestep a linear move I don't get hit by it. But in DOA4 you can't.
 
d3v said:
And what better drama is there than that which comes from human competition?
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again, it's apples and oranges.

I probably would not have been so fond of Soul Calibur in the first place, were it not for its expansive story in Soul Blade and SCII, and Chronicles of the Sword in SCIII.

Aesthetics are important. They give flavor to the game. Team Ninja seems to be understanding this as they work with DOA5.

Casuals should not be completely discounted- especially since they can be turned on to competitive gameplay through their love of the story or characters.
d3v said:
You can never truly succeed if you don't at the very least, keep tiers and (more importantly) the matchup chart behind it at the back of your mind. Because doing so implies an understanding of the match up and how to best win it.
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I said I don't believe in tiers.

I didn't say "don't study your matchups".
TheCursedImage said:
At the end of the day, past single player experience and all that jazz, I just want BALANCE. Theres nothing better than fun balanced gameplay.
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That all lies in the hands of Team Ninja, and how much they're willing to support their game.

Time will tell...
 
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