Food for Thought: What the Soul Calibur series needs.

I'm gonna say it now, no one wants a troll in any thread. However, this is one in which we discuss what can be learned from the available games from the series. Pointless bickering is fine for general discussions and petty argumentative topics, but not for something that we, as a community, can actually do something about.

That being said, anyone else have any ideas?
 
I'm curious as to whether or not other fighting game communities are as negative as we are. Street Fighter 4, for example, wasn't considered well balanced at launch (to my knowledge). How did they deal with it?
 
I'm curious as to whether or not other fighting game communities are as negative as we are. Street Fighter 4, for example, wasn't considered well balanced at launch (to my knowledge). How did they deal with it?
Expansions....
I pretty much saw that one coming, actually. They've been making expansions since SF2.

Most of Namco's fighting game community is needy. Damn needy.

Tekken's side (as of TTT2) was very needy. SC's (as of SCV) is whiny most of the time. Facebook and Twitter are full of them.
 
Premise: i understand this thread as "what SC need to sell",maybe i've misunderstand it

GIANT imho over all, obvious

Casual stuff
-HUGE all-in cast TT2 style, specially because SC got A LOT of awesome characters dropped without or for dumb reason, each with many -deluded in SCV- fans. If i've to talk for myself Hwang-Zasa-Rock-Talim are a must, but i understand everyone have his tastes so just let's put all in.
I know giant cast it's a pain in the ass to balance, but sell, and will give that greatest-SC-evah aura that SCV definitely lacked.

-Nobody need retard huge story mode (specially not the SCV one, lol), just give us straight old arcade mode with classic sequence of kickassing, boss fight and final for each char. SCV story feel fail, and the lack of classic arcade finals give feeling of an incomplete game

-Stop show Daishi as Harada's lil bitch and SC as faggy Tekken's lil brother.
Greatness is an attitude,ask SC1 back in DC age.
Under the marketing pov the impression ever was like if Namco not care/want support SC (fuck them :D )

-Keep supporting your product during the time, it keep the big casual community in and push who missed first days to jump on the wagon.
If the november DLC rumor is true good, if not shit just get -more- ridicolous


Gameplay stuff
-give me back HUGE moveset

-make useless moves... ehm... not useless

-balance without blowjob this or that character because is popular. Buff low tiers and if needed nerf high ones.
Never understand why SC seem to love keep low tiers low (its called Rock syndrome). The cast is yet not that big, why don't increase the number of strong contenders? Examples on SCV: Raph, Zwei, Aeon give them good shit. And, for love of the holy fucking fuck, fix Ezio whiffs. Easy very visible things, but they seem just not care

-DJ without a 3d model = useless character and a waste of slot

-3 mimics. Please, i'm giving you moneys for this game


What keep
-the whole new sytem with BE, CE and Guard Breaks is awesome

-really like the actual pace

-they make really unique gameplay of each char

-art style is come back good after that trash called SC4

-awesome guest that fit with the game (even more than some actual official characters)

-awesome CaS (can still get better,but awesome)

-no Amy lol
 
-no Amy lol
You had me up until then....Why not her fighting style,(plus a skin *non-canon*) That's balanced. Some of us can see she isn't a clone of Raph, so we'd pay for her(sorry for saying we, I speak for myself of course). Everything else you said was good.
 
I'm gonna say it now, no one wants a troll in any thread. However, this is one in which we discuss what can be learned from the available games from the series. Pointless bickering is fine for general discussions and petty argumentative topics, but not for something that we, as a community, can actually do something about.
That being said, anyone else have any ideas?
He's right!! This thread is called what Soul Calibur really needs. If I remember correctly, Hasukage was talking about SC6 in his first post about it being better then SCV because most of us think SCV is rushed or w/e & think its bullshit. I'm not entirely sure if you want to hear about my SC6 Idea, but here goes nothin.

(Sorry if I 100% strongly disagree that SCV isn't good enough)

Since were talkin about the "series" of Soul Calibur, might as well look at SC6, because I highly doubt their gonna do anything to SCV to make it any better; you can count on it.

I had this idea somewhere else & would see if you guys like it. Its about SC6 on what it should "HAVE" to make this game any better then other fighting games, shooting games, or anything else to make it stand out at its finest. (This might get you some commercials about Soul Calibur or somethin, lol.)

What I'd like to see in the series of SC6
1) Old characters brought back (Especially Seung Mina)
2) New Character Creation Options & Styles (This will help the ratings of the game itself)
3) Chronicle of The Sword (Instead of Story Mode, use Chronicle as your story mode; main character of the story would be one of your created characters, whoever you choose or switch it up & choose the regular characters: Siegfreid, Nightmare, ect., use your imagination how the story could fit well for "ANY" character you choose)(Optional: More CGI cutscenes to intensify the game, for greater ratings)
4) New & more modes (Legendary Souls, Tower of Lost Souls, Survival Mode, Team Battle gameplay in Chronicle of the Sword style)
5) Rated "M" this time (Kids will still get their hands on it anyway; this will help boost the violence, epicness, & sexual features more rapidly, making the game irresistable)
6) Maybe a couple of new characters with new weapons to use as a created character (I also miss using the Scythe)
7) New looks for all regular characters (Possibly more badass & exotic features for the chicks maybe)(That's one of the reasons why I said rated M)
8) More moves & combo's for all players (Ones that make you go like, Guy#1: "HOLY SHIT!!!", Guy#2: "That was badass", Guy#3: "That guy got his shit stomped", Guy#4: "GET OWN3D, WHOOOO!", Guy#5: "RETURN TA DUST! O.O".)
9) (MOST IMPORTANT) Never again make characters only buyable when they are apart of the game. We must have them unlockable somehow. (For those who bought Dampierre, I feel bad for you. You already bought the game, why buy him?)

That's what I'd like to see in the new series of Soul Calibur 6. Hopefully with less whiners & complainers & sore losers. Oh yeah, to fix that problem, maybe we should get a more advanced training system. One that makes you from Lv 1, private low class, noob - into a Lv Badass Legendary Master of Destruction. no bullshit......

Premise: i understand this thread as "what SC need to sell",maybe i've misunderstand it

GIANT imho over all, obvious

Casual stuff
-HUGE all-in cast TT2 style, specially because SC got A LOT of awesome characters dropped without or for dumb reason, each with many -deluded in SCV- fans. If i've to talk for myself Hwang-Zasa-Rock-Talim are a must, but i understand everyone have his tastes so just let's put all in.
I know giant cast it's a pain in the ass to balance, but sell, and will give that greatest-SC-evah aura that SCV definitely lacked.

-Nobody need retard huge story mode (specially not the SCV one, lol), just give us straight old arcade mode with classic sequence of kickassing, boss fight and final for each char. SCV story feel fail, and the lack of classic arcade finals give feeling of an incomplete game

-Stop show Daishi as Harada's lil bitch and SC as faggy Tekken's lil brother.
Greatness is an attitude,ask SC1 back in DC age.
Under the marketing pov the impression ever was like if Namco not care/want support SC (fuck them :D )

-Keep supporting your product during the time, it keep the big casual community in and push who missed first days to jump on the wagon.
If the november DLC rumor is true good, if not shit just get -more- ridicolous


Gameplay stuff
-give me back HUGE moveset

-make useless moves... ehm... not useless

-balance without blowjob this or that character because is popular. Buff low tiers and if needed nerf high ones.
Never understand why SC seem to love keep low tiers low (its called Rock syndrome). The cast is yet not that big, why don't increase the number of strong contenders? Examples on SCV: Raph, Zwei, Aeon give them good shit. And, for love of the holy fucking fuck, fix Ezio whiffs. Easy very visible things, but they seem just not care

-DJ without a 3d model = useless character and a waste of slot

-3 mimics. Please, i'm giving you moneys for this game


What keep
-the whole new sytem with BE, CE and Guard Breaks is awesome

-really like the actual pace

-they make really unique gameplay of each char

-art style is come back good after that trash called SC4

-awesome guest that fit with the game (even more than some actual official characters)

-awesome CaS (can still get better,but awesome)

-no Amy lol
Bandai Namco (w/e), Project Soul, I'll always think they do a DAMN great job with their games. As for the Amy part from SC4; I say she should be made in SC6, but with a different weapon this time. Let her have the Scythe & see how her moves turn out. That'll add some touch to the fantasy side of SC6. Make Viola have a different womenly voice, rather then having her be the same as Amy. The BIGGEST reason to why I absolutely love SC series was because I loved how I could make characters & play as them with any other characters move set I desire. Someone has got to agree with that, lets face it, the game would be dull if it didn't have what I said. May have not been the point in SC2, but the character creation was unexpected & BADASS.
 
5) Rated "M" this time (Kids will still get their hands on it anyway; this will help boost the violence, epicness, & sexual features more rapidly, making the game irresistable)

While everything else was rather silly yet a similar humble suggestion like most of us, this part is a no-no. You don't have to make a M game out of SC to make it good.

Sex features.
Sexual features are fine. People online however will always make sick CAS characters(think penis on rainbow customs) that make me hesitate playing online around my younger audiences. While it's funny for me for the first few times, it becomes pet peeves. Another example is I'll see some lady who barely has anything on be aroused at first glance, take a closer look and find her wearing special equipment in a inappropiate matter(think undergarments that make her look nude. While I am male and enjoy it at first, I shook my head in disgust. Much rather see a simple Pyrrha in a Maid outfit than that. If this made series to M ratings, I just think it's be stupid. There's a lot of peeps out there who always make the same sex jokes or something worse. Despite that, I have to put up with it *sigh*


Epicness.
The game series atm lacks epicness, and it's not because of graphics. It's just meh. Every SC Soul Blade-Soul Calibur 3 imho was epic on how it felt.

Let me show you an old but epic vid from Soul Blade.

If you were to compare this vid to derpy but nice graphic SCIV and SCV openings, it had more epic feel. Music choices were better back then. While SCV did improve it's soundtrack, it's still not as mighty as the older installments except SCIV's OST. The openings imho got more meh. Soul Blade was so new and true. Soul Calibur one was followed up nicely. Soul Calibur 2 was pretty decent(removing nostalgia goggles for this one). Soul Calibur 3 did a great job introducing characters like Zas, Tira, and especially Setsuka which renewed and kept my interest.

While Soul Calibur 4 introduced Amy, Algol, and the lovely Hilde, it felt so meh. The opening didn't even seem exciting. Everything about it from my casual point of view was kinda just meh. Characters like my lovely Seong Mi-na look less attractive compared to the Soul Calibur 3 versions of themselves. That's when everyone imho looked their very best. The only casual thing that attracted me before SC4 came out, was Star Wars, but my hype for them died down after playing them. I cared about Yoshimitsu, Seong Mi-na, and the other cast more. Hardcore wise, SCIV was pretty good except when you go online. Not gonna elaborate on it much, but the net code was bad thus a silly lag code was made to weed out good players from the bad.


Violence.
The game is fine. Make it show blood and gore and I will hesitate to play. Would you want to watch as Nightmare plunges his sword in Siegfried and watch blood, guts, and other stuff come out? This will attract MK peeps but imho I'm a SC purist. Keep it Teen like Tekken.



My humble ramble of what Soul Calibur series needs?
What this series needs is to recapture the best parts of each Soul Calibur. Look at Soul Calibur 2-3 for instance. Introduced many modes that we can call "playground for the imagination". If they put more time to put these in, SCV could of had a better score.

Gameplay wise.
SCV did a great job on including the gauge, JG, quick step, to make things exciting. However, if you were to dig deeper and find the flaws of them, you'd be quite disappointed. From my hardcore point of view, the game is too simplified. I understand noobs want something easy to pick up, but some brave edge attacks like Yoshi's 6B BE feels like a noob version of his iMCF. It's okay from my point of view, but not that useful except if it's used in a combo and/or wall combo. But the thing is, the movelists for everyone feels "simplified".


My main Yoshimitsu for instance. Tons of fun in SCIV and required lots of knowledge on understanding his whole moveset to defeat my opponents. SCV it's like he became less complex compared to the SCIV one. He still functions the same, but SCV is too simplified. I took way more breaks on SCV compared to SCIV because it gets frustrating not being able to do certain old moves, but this game was rushed. What can I do?

Personally I feel once the game has all it's secrets out, everyone won't always main the same characters like Voldo. All know is I'm gonna see tons of Alexandras for instance. Sure we'll see someone awesome and different like a Tira winning EVO, but only because certain peeps don't do their HW on their opponent.

This brings me to my next point that would make more happier than casual wishing for more CAS stuff: FIX THE WHIFFING, THE HITBOX ISSUES, AND ANY OTHER HARDCORE PROBLEMS I FORGOT TO MENTION!!!!

Sure there will always be low tiers and high tiers, but I feel like poor ZWEI will never get anything more than beating a person blind to his set-ups. Or poor Siegfried with his whiffing issues. Yes, I want this game fixed and balanced.


Characters. Where everyone feels empty without the ones dear to them.
Well, I miss Zas. Grim reaping black dude that will be missed. I mean come on, he can reincarnate for pete's sake!

I miss Talim. An older and more mature Talim would of made my day, but I guess we won't see her...

I miss Taki, but her style returns as Natsu.....

I miss Setsuka, but her time is up.....

I miss Hwang and/or Yun, they represent Korea. Now PS cuts them. Pocky Yoshi sad.

I definitely miss Seong Mi-na. But I'm cool with a replacement that makes me think of her. She doesn't have to be korean, but a style like her with attractive lady(and similar personality) will do it for me.


What we got?

Natsu. Yeah I like her and all, but I can't deny that's Naruto gender bend.

ZWEI. I like his Wolf summon stuff and all, but his design makes me think J-pop/K-pop hottie star+Twilight=What is this?

Viola. A characters that's done right on design and gameplay imho.

Pyrrha. Sophitia except more crybaby, meek, and attractive than Sophitia.

Leixia. A Xiaoyu cute desu version of Xianghua. Eventually she'll grow up like her mother.

Patroklos. Happy to have a male style S&S. Though his attitude sucks, he's cheesy funny.

Elysium. Hello Sophitia reskin, I see PS favored you. Nice CE.

Alpha Pat. Hello A Pat. I see PS favored you too. Nice Setsuka style for Pat reskin.

Pyrrha Omega. Hello Pyrrha Omega, I see PS favored you three. Nice Sophitia Style 2.0 reskin for Pyrrha.

Aeon was kinda cool imho. Something nice.

Edgemaster. The only mimic that should be the only one.

Instead for certain characters. Because I'm still not over it.

Edgemaster could of been the only mimic and I would be cool with that, but if they favored Kilik, they could of made it to where Kilik is the new edgemaster and the only mimic. Or make it to where Kilik wields something new.

Elysium could of been a different character altogether. The only thing different is the CE.

Alpha Pat. This one I will suggest a new female. With Taki and Setsuka gone they could recycle and make a new oriental beauty.

Think of it as Yoshi. He has a Katana and a Wakazashi.

The new female could wield a lai sword and a kodachi would make for something new. Better than say Kunimitsu(No disrespect for this cool character).

Personality? A mix of both. Cold and serious ninja when it's mission time like Taki, but retains kindness like Setsuka.

Looks? A real oriental face with a nice slender and slightly toned body. No exaggerated boobs and asses though. Just a nice size.

Omega may be different than Pyrrha, but aesthetically a female roman gladiator would at least not make me rage as much as Omega.

Add Bangoo in. Why is Amy allowed but not Bangoo?!

In general, I understand it's hard for PS to make something innovative, but they can if they had more time. I wouldn't mind waiting 3 years if they had to do it. I'm a loyal SC fan.

Story.
Well, if they went with simple old school style(beat arcade with them, see destined battles, see ending) I'd be cool with that. It doesn't have be like SCIII story telling or so.



I think I've rambled just as much as you emperor, but I made it to where it doesn't come off as a jerk. Sure your intent was not to troll, but with the way you respond to peeps congratulations for making me respond to you a bit more gracious yet tactful than I had to. Anyways, welcome again.
 
While everything else was rather silly yet a similar humble suggestion like most of us, this part is a no-no. You don't have to make a M game out of SC to make it good.

Sex features.
Sexual features are fine. People online however will always make sick CAS characters(think penis on rainbow customs) that make me hesitate playing online around my younger audiences. While it's funny for me for the first few times, it becomes pet peeves. Another example is I'll see some lady who barely has anything on be aroused at first glance, take a closer look and find her wearing special equipment in a inappropiate matter(think undergarments that make her look nude. While I am male and enjoy it at first, I shook my head in disgust. Much rather see a simple Pyrrha in a Maid outfit than that. If this made series to M ratings, I just think it's be stupid. There's a lot of peeps out there who always make the same sex jokes or something worse. Despite that, I have to put up with it *sigh*


Epicness.
The game series atm lacks epicness, and it's not because of graphics. It's just meh. Every SC Soul Blade-Soul Calibur 3 imho was epic on how it felt.

Let me show you an old but epic vid from Soul Blade.

If you were to compare this vid to derpy but nice graphic SCIV and SCV openings, it had more epic feel. Music choices were better back then. While SCV did improve it's soundtrack, it's still not as mighty as the older installments except SCIV's OST. The openings imho got more meh. Soul Blade was so new and true. Soul Calibur one was followed up nicely. Soul Calibur 2 was pretty decent(removing nostalgia goggles for this one). Soul Calibur 3 did a great job introducing characters like Zas, Tira, and especially Setsuka which renewed and kept my interest.

While Soul Calibur 4 introduced Amy, Algol, and the lovely Hilde, it felt so meh. The opening didn't even seem exciting. Everything about it from my casual point of view was kinda just meh. Characters like my lovely Seong Mi-na look less attractive compared to the Soul Calibur 3 versions of themselves. That's when everyone imho looked their very best. The only casual thing that attracted me before SC4 came out, was Star Wars, but my hype for them died down after playing them. I cared about Yoshimitsu, Seong Mi-na, and the other cast more. Hardcore wise, SCIV was pretty good except when you go online. Not gonna elaborate on it much, but the net code was bad thus a silly lag code was made to weed out good players from the bad.


Violence.
The game is fine. Make it show blood and gore and I will hesitate to play. Would you want to watch as Nightmare plunges his sword in Siegfried and watch blood, guts, and other stuff come out? This will attract MK peeps but imho I'm a SC purist. Keep it Teen like Tekken.



My humble ramble of what Soul Calibur series needs?
What this series needs is to recapture the best parts of each Soul Calibur. Look at Soul Calibur 2-3 for instance. Introduced many modes that we can call "playground for the imagination". If they put more time to put these in, SCV could of had a better score.

Gameplay wise.
SCV did a great job on including the gauge, JG, quick step, to make things exciting. However, if you were to dig deeper and find the flaws of them, you'd be quite disappointed. From my hardcore point of view, the game is too simplified. I understand noobs want something easy to pick up, but some brave edge attacks like Yoshi's 6B BE feels like a noob version of his iMCF. It's okay from my point of view, but not that useful except if it's used in a combo and/or wall combo. But the thing is, the movelists for everyone feels "simplified".


My main Yoshimitsu for instance. Tons of fun in SCIV and required lots of knowledge on understanding his whole moveset to defeat my opponents. SCV it's like he became less complex compared to the SCIV one. He still functions the same, but SCV is too simplified. I took way more breaks on SCV compared to SCIV because it gets frustrating not being able to do certain old moves, but this game was rushed. What can I do?

Personally I feel once the game has all it's secrets out, everyone won't always main the same characters like Voldo. All know is I'm gonna see tons of Alexandras for instance. Sure we'll see someone awesome and different like a Tira winning EVO, but only because certain peeps don't do their HW on their opponent.

This brings me to my next point that would make more happier than casual wishing for more CAS stuff: FIX THE WHIFFING, THE HITBOX ISSUES, AND ANY OTHER HARDCORE PROBLEMS I FORGOT TO MENTION!!!!

Sure there will always be low tiers and high tiers, but I feel like poor ZWEI will never get anything more than beating a person blind to his set-ups. Or poor Siegfried with his whiffing issues. Yes, I want this game fixed and balanced.


Characters. Where everyone feels empty without the ones dear to them.
Well, I miss Zas. Grim reaping black dude that will be missed. I mean come on, he can reincarnate for pete's sake!

I miss Talim. An older and more mature Talim would of made my day, but I guess we won't see her...

I miss Taki, but her style returns as Natsu.....

I miss Setsuka, but her time is up.....

I miss Hwang and/or Yun, they represent Korea. Now PS cuts them. Pocky Yoshi sad.

I definitely miss Seong Mi-na. But I'm cool with a replacement that makes me think of her. She doesn't have to be korean, but a style like her with attractive lady(and similar personality) will do it for me.


What we got?

Natsu. Yeah I like her and all, but I can't deny that's Naruto gender bend.

ZWEI. I like his Wolf summon stuff and all, but his design makes me think J-pop/K-pop hottie star+Twilight=What is this?

Viola. A characters that's done right on design and gameplay imho.

Pyrrha. Sophitia except more crybaby, meek, and attractive than Sophitia.

Leixia. A Xiaoyu cute desu version of Xianghua. Eventually she'll grow up like her mother.

Patroklos. Happy to have a male style S&S. Though his attitude sucks, he's cheesy funny.

Elysium. Hello Sophitia reskin, I see PS favored you. Nice CE.

Alpha Pat. Hello A Pat. I see PS favored you too. Nice Setsuka style for Pat reskin.

Pyrrha Omega. Hello Pyrrha Omega, I see PS favored you three. Nice Sophitia Style 2.0 reskin for Pyrrha.

Aeon was kinda cool imho. Something nice.

Edgemaster. The only mimic that should be the only one.

Instead for certain characters. Because I'm still not over it.

Edgemaster could of been the only mimic and I would be cool with that, but if they favored Kilik, they could of made it to where Kilik is the new edgemaster and the only mimic. Or make it to where Kilik wields something new.

Elysium could of been a different character altogether. The only thing different is the CE.

Alpha Pat. This one I will suggest a new female. With Taki and Setsuka gone they could recycle and make a new oriental beauty.

Think of it as Yoshi. He has a Katana and a Wakazashi.

The new female could wield a lai sword and a kodachi would make for something new. Better than say Kunimitsu(No disrespect for this cool character).

Personality? A mix of both. Cold and serious ninja when it's mission time like Taki, but retains kindness like Setsuka.

Looks? A real oriental face with a nice slender and slightly toned body. No exaggerated boobs and asses though. Just a nice size.

Omega may be different than Pyrrha, but aesthetically a female roman gladiator would at least not make me rage as much as Omega.

Add Bangoo in. Why is Amy allowed but not Bangoo?!

In general, I understand it's hard for PS to make something innovative, but they can if they had more time. I wouldn't mind waiting 3 years if they had to do it. I'm a loyal SC fan.

Story.
Well, if they went with simple old school style(beat arcade with them, see destined battles, see ending) I'd be cool with that. It doesn't have be like SCIII story telling or so.



I think I've rambled just as much as you emperor, but I made it to where it doesn't come off as a jerk. Sure your intent was not to troll, but with the way you respond to peeps congratulations for making me respond to you a bit more gracious yet tactful than I had to. Anyways, welcome again.
You sound like you lose alot with the whole fixing thing. I guess I can agree with 30% of your post, especially the blood & gore stuff. Your right, I don't wanna see Siegfried goin through all that what you just said, however that wasn't my point, nice try. I think I said rated "M", just so their could be more cussing (Violent Language), sexual content (regardless if you don't like it, I'm pretty sure the % of people who find it funny & attractive is atleast higher then those who do not like it, & it makes the game still irresistable, just wanna throw that out there), crazy, violent, cgi cutscene's to make us laugh with cussing, & anything else that I could probably think of. No blood though..... lol

Don't you think the game is sexual, violent, & crazy enough to be rated M anyway? I mean you said you did see some guy with a created dick shape, even though that wasn't apart of the game where you can have a large boner at instant. I'm pretty sure PS or Namco wasn't trying to make the whole dick thing seem obvious that it was apart of the plan. Those are just sick ppl using items to put together is all. REAL sexual features is what actually comes from the creators. We all know they weren't trying to hide those woman's asses & tits. (The men were safe from sexual content, don't ask me how I know, I'm not gay)

I like rated M though.... makes me feel like the game is more on the mature side then the kids section. Although, we don't have to make the game rated M, if people prefer T, rated M was just an idea. (& something I'd like to see personally)
 
Men weren't safe from sexual content lol. See Algol and Voldo. If not, you could try to customize a guy like Raphael to intrigue a certain audience for instance.

Speaking of which, ZWEI made me think they're pulling a twilight on peeps aesthetically. Fortunately, men like Algol is seen more as derp costumes than say Natsu and her spandex suit. Women are always the sex appeal. Been present since Street Fighter 2 and other FGs.

Sure these sexuality stuff may raise an eyebrow to peeps new to SCV, however it's not like Mortal Kombat(See Mileena's flesh pit costume).


The violence to me is like those shonen anime. If it gets brutal it doesn't go that far. Sure the attacks look like they hurt(such as Omega's CE), but there's nothing mature about it.

Imho, mature rated games are games like Mortal Kombat. While it's fine for anyone to play, it's gonna be tough bringing a M rated game to say a classroom with 14 year old kids who don't know better. Imagine what the teacher would say if he/she were uptight. What I'm adamantly standing by is SCV or any other Soul series should stay Teen. At least it's not that serious as you're exaggerating it to be.

Anyways, it's best not to stray from the topic. While this debate is interesting, I don't think your logic is gonna win me over. Sorry, when it comes to online, I only agree and/or give into something I can make sense of. Thanks for chatting.
 
Men weren't safe from sexual content lol. See Algol and Voldo. If not, you could try to customize a guy like Raphael to intrigue a certain audience for instance.

Speaking of which, ZWEI made me think they're pulling a twilight on peeps aesthetically. Fortunately, men like Algol is seen more as derp costumes than say Natsu and her spandex suit. Women are always the sex appeal. Been present since Street Fighter 2 and other FGs.

Sure these sexuality stuff may raise an eyebrow to peeps new to SCV, however it's not like Mortal Kombat(See Mileena's flesh pit costume).


The violence to me is like those shonen anime. If it gets brutal it doesn't go that far. Sure the attacks look like they hurt(such as Omega's CE), but there's nothing mature about it.

Imho, mature rated games are games like Mortal Kombat. While it's fine for anyone to play, it's gonna be tough bringing a M rated game to say a classroom with 14 year old kids who don't know better. Imagine what the teacher would say if he/she were uptight. What I'm adamantly standing by is SCV or any other Soul series should stay Teen. At least it's not that serious as you're exaggerating it to be.

Anyways, it's best not to stray from the topic. While this debate is interesting, I don't think your logic is gonna win me over. Sorry, when it comes to online, I only agree and/or give into something I can make sense of. Thanks for chatting.
By all means, make me lose, I want you to.

Anyways, with that said about your post, I don't wanna know what you've been doin to Raph, & yes I've seen Algol's & Voldo's costumes. That could be one of the reasons why I said "Don't you think the game is violent, sexual, & crazy enough to be rated M anyway?" lol I'm just gonna assume yeah, you think so.

Of course woman are the stars at being sexually partial nude, not trying to say much but that. Ask any dude if they like sexually partial naked men. You should get some suprises & "no's". Also, the attacks you mention that pyrrha omega does, I know there's nothing mature about it, that's why I didn't say anything about attacks in my SC6 ideas. I don't think there's anything mature about punching my opponet in MK. Mileena's costume, I'm pretty sure their minds were in the SC zone when making that cloth. lol

I myself, will answer my own question; I don't know how SC isn't a rated M game yet, with all the sexual nudity exsposed in SC. MK is rated M I believe (Maybe that was the PSVita version, I'm not sure), & I can only think of one reason why its rated M, that's simply because of blood & gore. That's all I know. Remember in SC4 where Cassandra stuffed her ass on opponets faces? Well, you can upgrade that with more nudity. Other than that, let's get off my question now.

Nice chatting & debating
 
Truth about the sexual content is that it needs to change...period. You can rationalize it however you want, but the fact that Ivy's dominatrix clothes and half naked 15 year olds needs to be fixed. You can have a women be sexy without being objectified.

On the topic of violence levels: I have heard this argument made before. Since there are weapons a little bit of blood would help. 3 things:

1.) adding a blood effect properly is not as easy as it sounds. Sure you could BS your way through it and use it as a particle effect, but even then, it would need to look nice and that is a lot of time they usually never have.

2.) adding blood and things of that nature would change the entire demographic. Being rated T allows them to market themselves toward a broader spectrum.

3.) the only thing new comers would think of when they see the blood is "Oh, mortal kombat clones".

Not saying it cannot happen period, but that is the only reasons I can think of as to why not.

Other than that, story mode I liked in 3, and they had arcade at the same time. I do not see why they can not have that kind of thing again.
 
Ask a dude if they like sexually partial naked men?

In this community, you'd be VERY surprised! XD

But really, no, we had Ivy in pieces of string in IV, she looks sexy and classy in V, as she should look. I get fanservice but you can customize your characters to be sexy, so really, it's not an issue.
You disgust me, I don't think I wanna know now. XD

Truth about the sexual content is that it needs to change...period. You can rationalize it however you want, but the fact that Ivy's dominatrix clothes and half naked 15 year olds needs to be fixed. You can have a women be sexy without being objectified.

On the topic of violence levels: I have heard this argument made before. Since there are weapons a little bit of blood would help. 3 things:

1.) adding a blood effect properly is not as easy as it sounds. Sure you could BS your way through it and use it as a particle effect, but even then, it would need to look nice and that is a lot of time they usually never have.

2.) adding blood and things of that nature would change the entire demographic. Being rated T allows them to market themselves toward a broader spectrum.

3.) the only thing new comers would think of when they see the blood is "Oh, mortal kombat clones".

Not saying it cannot happen period, but that is the only reasons I can think of as to why not.

Other than that, story mode I liked in 3, and they had arcade at the same time. I do not see why they can not have that kind of thing again.
SC3 probably had the perfect gameplay in the whole SC series, in my opinion. I truly do hope they make another Chronicle of The Sword in SC6 again. Holy shit, how much would I play? I played the COTS in SC3 about 10 times through the whole story mode, my god that shit was fun.

Another thing I hope to see if they actually do make COTS in SC6, is Ambelia & Luna again. Remember when they had special abilities to become unstunnable, damn those enemies were badasses & tough. I can't remember all the abilities very well because most of them wasn't annoying as the unstunnable perk. Where the enemy glows red aura in COTS.

What I also remember very well was one of their greatest modes in all of the SC series. I believe it was some sort of challenge mode where you had to fight Night Terror or Giant Collosus. EPIC!!! Damn I hope they make an SC6 with COTS & a better character creation system. (Idk wtf "CaS" is???) I truly hope they do my ideas alot.

Since some people wanna argue & whine a little bit about the rated M thing, abandon it then, who cares about rated M, I guess? As long as the other ideas are made into SC6, I'd have ABSOLUTELY NO COMPLAINTS. (The game will still be sexual though Yoshi, sorry, LMAO!)
 
Character wishlist:
*--> = unlocks

  • Patroklos --> Alpha P.
  • Pyrrah --> Sophitia skin/style
  • Z.W.E.I.
  • Viola
  • Mitsurugi --> Soul Blade skin, Soul Calibur outfits, SC2 outfits --> Arthur skin
  • Ivy --> SC2 2P outfit, SC3 2P outfit
  • Seigfried --> Soul Blade outfit, SCIV 1P outfit
  • Nightmare --> SC 1P outfit, SC2 2P outfit, SCIV 1P outfit
  • Voldo --> SB outfits, SC2 outfits, SC3 outfits
  • Natsu --> Taki skin/style (maybe her style would be different)
  • Raphael --> Amy skin/style
  • Cervantes --> SB 1P outfit, SC 2P outfit, SC3 Inferno skin
  • Aeon --> SC Lizardman skin
  • Tira --> SC3 outfits
  • Maxi --> Li Long skin
  • Xiba --> Kilik skin/style --> Seong Mi-na skin/style
  • Leixia --> Xianghua skin/style
  • Dampierre
  • Yoshimitsu --> SC 1P outfit, SC2 outfits, SC3 outfits
  • Hilde
  • Astaroth --> SC outfits, SC2 2P outfit, SCIV 1P skin
  • Zasalamel --> Abyss skin
  • Talim (or maybe her daughter/son/niece etc.)
  • Cassandra (more mature)
  • Yun-Seong (more mature) --> Hwang skin
  • Edgemaster --> Olcaden skin
That isn't asking for a lot is it?
 
Lol @ people caring too much about 1P modes in multiplayer based game.
I'm pretty sure online could still be enabled (I hope), remember the Team Battle from my list? Wouldn't it be great if there was Team Battle online where players could team up into a total of 6? (Although, that might be pushin it).
 
Ask a dude if they like sexually partial naked men?

In this community, you'd be VERY surprised! XD

But really, no, we had Ivy in pieces of string in IV, she looks sexy and classy in V, as she should look. I get fanservice but you can customize your characters to be sexy, so really, it's not an issue.
I do agree that the overall design in V for ivy is headed in the right direction (all be it peekaboo cleavage, which is just funny as hell), however, the way that the designers/company sells this game and makes the characters out tends to be...less than favorable. I am not even talking about that stupid add, which would be pointless to go into at this point.

It is not jut ivy, but a lot of designs for females over the years have been awful, only focusing on the sexuality and not on true design, it just so happens that Ivy tends to be the worst offender. Though at the same time, being what is essentially a dominatrix, she is seen as a strong female, just not a positive one. That is why I like hilde, she relies on design.

Again, I am not saying do not be sexy, just do not do so in an exploitative manner. That i a huge criticism that has been made about the series, and If they were smart about it, they should at least think about it.

Moving on...I touched on this idea before, but i think a lot of people would dig it: RPG style world and your cas is the main character. Along the way you could learn from the main cast and other characters of their fighting style. Buy weapons, armor and unlockables. I think it would be great for a mode if they had the time and money to put in it.
 
Moving on...I touched on this idea before, but i think a lot of people would dig it: RPG style world and your cas is the main character. Along the way you could learn from the main cast and other characters of their fighting style. Buy weapons, armor and unlockables. I think it would be great for a mode if they had the time and money to put in it.
I would like it. Too bad certain others won't. Not saying whom.
 
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