UnseenWombat
[14] Master
what is the difference between counter and hi counter? is it just the timing? or does it correspond to a level of attack?
also, 2800th post! :D
also, 2800th post! :D
Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate
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Age_of_Truth
[12] Conqueror
Strike (punch or kick): A High Counter strike is where you hit someone while they're attempting a throw. Normal counter is where you interrupt another strike.
Throw: A High Counter throw is where you throw someone who is attempting a Hold. Normal counter is where you interrupt a throw attempt with your own throw.
Counter: A normal counter is where you perform a successful Hold (High/Mid/Low etc.) against a strike. High Counter Hold happens when you initiate the hold at the last second - so a timing thing like you said. It's a bit like a red GI from SCIV.
taffertier
[10] Knight
Also high counter throws due a metric f*ck ton of damage. Depending on your character you can get a good 30-40% of their health for one high counter throw.
JohnBoyAdvance
[10] Knight
I disconnected the Xbox from Live and it still did it. Always seems to be when I reach the high 90s/100s.
Dr_Tom
[09] Warrior
As Age of Truth said, it's all about using DoA's triangle system right. Also though, as an added note, High Counters do 150% damage, normal counters do 125%.
Sounds to me like you should probably go exchange the disc then. If the problem persists with a new disc, then you've got bigger problems.
Reptile
Soul Calibur V
It's also quite easy to pull off on a predictable opponent. Like when you do a stun combo it's likely they'll try to hold something. Then FLASH! Oboro!
That's actually incorrect, that was the previous hold frames. Now it's
Hi Counter Hold damage: 150% revision - Frames 1-2
Counter Hold: 125% revision - Frames 3-10
Normal Hold: 100% revision - Frames 11-18
Recovery: Frames 19-30.
Djangoknight
[10] Knight
so how much recover did it have with 3 point hold then?
and is it still a Hi counter if u grab them in the recovery frames?
and is it still a Hi counter if u grab them in the recovery frames?
JohnBoyAdvance
[10] Knight
Managed to do it. Installed game onto HDD and did the moves in order (rather than getting stressy and doing another move instead)
Still contacted Tecmo support. Would rather deal with them than Shop To. I love shop to but they will be busy and Tecmo wont be. lol
Edit: Now its the same with Lisa. ;_; Oh well back to getting costumes till Tecmo reply.
The rumble on my controller is activated costantly at the moment... >_>
Still contacted Tecmo support. Would rather deal with them than Shop To. I love shop to but they will be busy and Tecmo wont be. lol
Edit: Now its the same with Lisa. ;_; Oh well back to getting costumes till Tecmo reply.
The rumble on my controller is activated costantly at the moment... >_>
Ghengis_John
[13] Hero
This... this is good...!? What the hell is this doing on IGN?
They've asked the community at FreeStepDodge to help with the IGN Wiki. Makes me wish the community was more active on its own wiki though...
I forget, but I think there were 7 or 8 more recovery frames. Yes, you get hi-counter throw even during the recovery.
BT_Johnny
[10] Knight
I don't know if somebody already put this here. Anyway:
Djangoknight
[10] Knight
it only if your char neutral throw is special on counter.
i.e. Tina's, neutral throw on counter / hi-counter is a different throw and can't be escape.
DrakeAldan
Follow the rules!
oh Mike Ross. Calibur is lower execution than you'll ever know.
Windstar
[13] Hero
Putting aside the technical discussions for the moment. How many of you managed to complete the command training for all characters? I still have Hayabusa and Sarah to go. Hayabusa's holds into Izuna Drops and Sarah's JF P2KKK are pretty difficult.
Force_of_Nature
[12] Conqueror
Unless you like Alpha Pat of course, but yeah, that part made me snicker. I'm like "you're coming from 2D fighters right?"
Edit: [Windstar]: The Izuna drops can be quite tough though I used the left-thumb to hit the circular inputs in as quick and smooth a motion as I could. The VF characters are giving me a bitch of a time to master. They all have these JF inputs that seem to get next to no explanation of how to time them. Akira's <H>+K move is stupidly hard to do. Sarah's "step" moves are annoying as well.
Reave
[13] Hero
I haven't even did the command training with Rig yet because the people I play with can't stop him. Actually I have only been in practice with Brad and Mila only to discover I don't like her.
Windstar
[13] Hero
Good way to practice Akira's knee. Take your first two fingers (index and middle). Place them on your keyboard's numpad's 0/ins key and ./del key. Flick your index finger downward (almost like a scratching motion) on the ins/0 key while pressing down with your middle finger on the ./del key. Use this same sort of motion while on a joystick and you'll get Akira's knee in no time.
If you're doing this on a pad. Reassign your H and K buttons to R1 and R2. Hold your controller vertically (instead typical horizontal position) so you can see the R1 and R2 buttons directely. Use the same motion as described above to get it.
If you're talking about Akira's other JF-ish motions like 36PP or 2H+KPP those have to be done on the moment of impact of the first hit. Do them as late as possible to get them. If you're trying to do the True Dragon Lance combo - H+KP466P+K, you have to input the 466P+K after the first P connects. DOA5 doesn't allow buffering so you can't do this like you can in VF5. All other motions should be relatively easy. I'm not quite sure if its me, or if DOA5's inputs are more lenient on the timing, but even I'm able to do SPoD and the above (save for the knee) with ease. Of course, playing Akira in live play is a completely different manner.
As for Hayabusa. I'm trying to use the analog stick to set up the motions, I'm actually having trouble of when the motions actually count. Since they don't register until you get that window open. Regular Izuna Drop I can do, its the other stuff that's tricky.
Djangoknight
[10] Knight
i done all of them i just need to get alpha to do hers.
Reptile
Soul Calibur V
I actually liked the way he presented that. Like that 3D games like SC are more "difficult". I thought he'd say they suck.