Ideas for new characters?

OK OK we've all gone down this road before. what i'd like to know is whether or not PS would listen to 8wayruners when contemplating new styles. (assuming of course they're going to make SCVI) Are we just shouting into a vacuum or are our voices being heard. Personally, I'm unfamiliar with game designers and their habits. Is there any precedent for game designers to ask their fans what should or shouldn't get put into future games? educate me please.
 
roxysmash said:
OK OK we've all gone down this road before. what i'd like to know is whether or not PS would listen to 8wayruners when contemplating new styles.
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I hope not. If anything, we've seen that designers litening to us is a *TERRIBLE* idea and only leads to people being pissed off on both sides. With SCV specifically, some of the things people asked for and received:

-a story mode more significant than previous games, with an actual story rather than a bunch of text and an outro movie varying per character

-adding new characters to replace old ones with no personality(Kilik and Taki especially)
-buffing the 'underpowered' Viola
-nerfing Siegfried
-nerfing Nightmare
-nerfing Algols CE
-nerfing Zwei
-adding CAS items that are unbreakable


...And what happened? Everyone bitched about Story Mode, it turns out that people actually hate characters with personalities, Viola is..., adding a whiff for Siegfried on purpose is incomprehensible, with all his weaknesses Nightmare losing throw damage is bizarre, Algols CE is a much less powerful use of two bars than his combos, nerfing Zwei is...I don't even know the words for it, and they added fugly DLC items that happen to take up multiple slots and be unbreakable.

I hope they never listen to us again, we have absolutely no fucking clue what we're talking about most of the time.
 
No they should still listen, but still use their fucking brain at the same time, they were listening with absolute derp faces everywhere, however not listening at all totally worked out for capcom right? Right guys?......rig- screw it I cant even do saracsm about that, Fapcum doesn't listen at all and right now they are in the doghouse. I don't want namco to suffer that same fate D:
 
very interesting responses. so they do listen. but not to everyone. OK then, here's my idea (sorry if it was someone else's idea first, i'm almost sure it was) could the 8wayrunners come up with oh, lets say five new characters/styles and then vote on them. the voting could be heisman trophy style where each ballot has a 1st place, second place and third place vote, each weighted accordingly. 5 points for a first place vote, 3 for a second place vote and 1 for a third place vote
so in hopes that this isn't too complicated or totally pointless allow me to suggest a first draft of the styles to vote on, these seem to have the most support
1. african warrior with shield and spear
2. sickles on chains
3. east indian with chakrams
4. native american with tomahawk(s)
5. mace
that's just a first draft mind you, if you feel one of those styles is not vote-worthy or if you feel your favorite idea for a new style has been left out please speak up. (personally i don't like the mace idea because we've got asty)
 
SuckingMaw said:
They listen, just not to everyone.
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As gameplay i know who they listen :D

About character choices i kinda can see it

Before SCV a wanted by many people was a tall/tough western brawler badass with a bastard sword

Now Zwei ended up into an hard gay biker with a robo wolf, but as starter point under japs point of view he may cover the role

But at this point, i understand she's a new mechanic and all but SERIOUSLY they listened the 7 wierdos asking for a "character that use magic" and not the legion screaming BANGOOOOOOOOOOOOO ?

Damn, i really miss dat Rock's SC4 gameplay, imagine it with brave edges O_O
 
Gatsu said:
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You are over-thinking it. The only time they ever listened to us, art-direction wise, was when we asked them to class it up a little because it was getting a bit too fanboy/fanservicey, but also because there was a feeling that it had gone too far among them as well.

tl;dr: They really aren't listening, art direction wise.
 
jtdam09 said:
chakrams
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JDub said:
I have three. Any or all would be cool to me.
1. Morningstar
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2. Chain and Sickle
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3. Fan or dual Fan
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For a min their I thought I was in Dynasty Warriors; especially the fan & chakrams

It would be nice if their was some badass tough guy with a giant halberd or giant spear blade with the ego of bravery, dedication, domination, & viciousness. (I kinda thought of Lu Bu & Tadakatsu when sayin that) Except this guys gonna be Sosijou Mikatagahara! some shit...... lol n.n Idk.

Next thing you know theirs some wanna be pretty boy with red eyes & white hair actin all desperate with twin swords.
 
roxysmash said:
very interesting responses. so they do listen. but not to everyone. OK then, here's my idea (sorry if it was someone else's idea first, i'm almost sure it was) could the 8wayrunners come up with oh, lets say five new characters/styles and then vote on them. the voting could be heisman trophy style where each ballot has a 1st place, second place and third place vote, each weighted accordingly. 5 points for a first place vote, 3 for a second place vote and 1 for a third place vote
so in hopes that this isn't too complicated or totally pointless allow me to suggest a first draft of the styles to vote on, these seem to have the most support
1. african warrior with shield and spear
2. sickles on chains
3. east indian with chakrams
4. native american with tomahawk(s)
5. mace
that's just a first draft mind you, if you feel one of those styles is not vote-worthy or if you feel your favorite idea for a new style has been left out please speak up. (personally i don't like the mace idea because we've got asty)
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You also left out:
6. Aztec or Mayan warrior with a swordclub made from obsidian
7. Siamese fighter with sickles and uses a Muay Thai stance
8. Pacific Islander warrior using a shark tooth club and Taiaha spear
9. Arabian warrior using a scimitar
10. Russian noble or Mongolian warrior with a broadsword
 
I dont know if its been mentioned but I would like to see a Native American character :D I think it'd be cool ;p
 
Le_Bello said:
Yup. It's true though.
Chakrams are Indian throwing weapons, whereas W&F Wheels are larger and use at melee range, and are from China.
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I do believe I saw the name of the weapons Sun Shang Xiang used in Warriors Orochi 3 called "Goddess of Fire" & "Ice" something.... but they were seperate weapons. The "Goddess of Fire" was her last weapon. So yeah, I suppose their called what jtdam said.

Fire & Wind w/e... (Mainly fire)
 
jtdam09 said:
No you cannot borrow this idea.

hehe. Just kidding.
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Lol, good. I'm working on a project and I need styles for a demo, so I'm considering a lot of things. I have to see how difficult it would be under the engine I want to use though, I have a lot of learning to do first.
 
Gatsu said:
Stop "native american character" bullshit, let's call things with theyr name:

BANGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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With an evolution of SC4 Rock's high/low/ground throws game please
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I almost forgot him....I am a terrible person.....XD
 
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