Zass wins A tourney? Lets Study this.

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Very interesting. I don't agree with everything that he did, but I did pick up a thing or two from the video. Not to take away from Omega (his Zas is solid, no doubt), but I think his opponents were being far too aggressive. A lot of Zas's abilities stem from his absurd CH combos, so a good defensive player can shut down a lot that he has. I'm not saying Omega's bad, but I think at least part of his success comes from his opponent's inability to deal effectively with Zas.
 
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Very interesting. I don't agree with everything that he did, but I did pick up a thing or two from the video. Not to take away from Omega (his Zas is solid, no doubt), but I think his opponents were being far too aggressive. A lot of Zas's abilities stem from his absurd CH combos, so a good defensive player can shut down a lot that he has. I'm not saying Omega's bad, but I think at least part of his success comes from his opponent's inability to deal effectively with Zas.
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There are more vids check the link an tonight there will be more vids of zas from the tourney youl see what happens when you play defensive against zas.
 
Cool Vids and little more insite on Zas... You side stepping is right on and really play a great game... Somethings I learn for it. Couple things I don't use and a few things I use that you don't...I got to stop playing scrubs somewhat and stop getting use to moves that don't work on the strong but kill the weak...
I bind only the K+B myslef, I hold the controller with 2 fingers on button and palm facedown, so the K+B is the only thing I can't hit exactly at the same time consistantly with my middle finger, its a trade off..

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I'm impressed with Omega's mastery of Zas's control moves, however I can't say anything at all for the Astaroth he was fighting.

I like to see chars 'out of the cool kids circle' winning tournaments (I recently won a tournament with Yun) but it just really irks me that in the video (specifically the Astaroth one) that Omega's opponents really don't seem to be on the ball with what their chars can do. The Astaroth missed a bunch of free damage / attempts at damage and had an seemed to not understand that you do NOT duck when Zas has his back to a ring edge.

That withstanding I can only say that by watching someone who has proven to be a high level player in the past I still don't think Zas has the greatest of chances at winning on a consistent basis (like Yun :( )
 
At the same time, those saying his opponents made many mistakes fail to realize, you snooze you lose. Its not his fault for capitalizing off the other players mistakes, doing that consistently and effectively is what essentially makes someone a good player. Despite his mistakes, he obviously made less of them to win the tournament. Thats what its all about at the end of the day.

If someone were to indeed play a defensive game, it wouldnt necessarily "shut down" Omegas options just because Zasalamel is very CH dependent. The nature of SC4 is to be offensive to an extent, so I could very much see someone playing TOO defensive in fear of Zasalamels CH to end up falling for more traps just by guarding and attempting to evade so much.
 
Looking forward to seeing the rest of the vids, Omega.

Something I've noticed on this board that's frightfully common is criticizing a player through his opponent. "Well, if the opponent had done this he wouldn't have won," or, "Doing this would have shut down his game."

Look, I've yet to see a perfect player on any fighting game. If you guys can show me a video of two perfect players fighting, then I'll show you a live stream of the world's longest match since they both still have full health and are still playing. I know that's a bit of hyperbole, but you get my point.
 
i love how u guys are saying his opponents were morons? omega is like one of the best players in the world, if im not mistaken hes won NATIONALS in sc3,(or 2nd dont remember exactly but im PRETTY sure it was first), theres no way u could expect any of his opponents to be robots when it comes to getting the free dmg and knowing when to block. ppl get nervous and even more nervous when youre playing one of the best, so dont act like hes winning cuz theyre "bad", they just look bad cuz hes THAT good.
 
I suggest you learn to read more carefully my dear, it would be wise so you dont jump the gun in future moot point arguments.

There was only a single person who said that. And you went off. For no reason.
 
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Might I add, there were people deeming 2B+K_2[B+K] useless in that other topic just yesterday. Look how effective that shit is.

Look at 2:23 in the finals video. JESUS. This is wtf Im talking about.
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I never said 2B+K was useless, I use it all the time. I said it blows, and it does (properties). Opponents who know the properties of that move pretty much make blocking the best option after that connects. A move with bad properties isn't necessarily useless, as in this case.

@ Omega: Great stuff man, you're awesome. You've inspired us all.
 
My dear, the whole point is youre stressing something that needs not be. There are plenty of moves that dont have the best properties, but when applied in the right situation, the good clearly outweighs the bad.

Soo. .. ..
 
Inspired sure...however don't forget that Omega has a great step game, he GIs strings...and his throw breaking is crazy.
To be any where close to him, you can't just copy his applications with Zass's tools. You gotta be well rounded, offensively and defensively.
 
I was watching the vids from this tourney earlier yesterday, but didn't realize you guys were discussing it. The whole time I was watching, I was thinking "Damn, this Omega dude is fuckin sick with Zas!" lol.

Seriously, I picked up a couple tools that will make my Zas gameplay a lot more complete. Good stuff and hope to see some more work from you. Peace
 
Still looks solid. I wonder how much SG damage 66A+B actually does? It's fast enough that they shouldn't do anything besides block it, but it's -20 on block, so it can't be abused. It's prolly a better SG finisher than 66B+K, IMHO, if only because its faster and less telegraphed.
 
I was not dissing Omega in any way he is definitly the best Zas I have ever seen period. I'm simply saying his opponents didn't look like they had a clue what they were doing. Especially the Voldo he seemed like he was lacking a complete understanding of his character.

Now I may just see these people at bad matches everyone has them I was just stating what I saw. I saw people who didn't seem to know what they were doing that's all don't flame me for observing.
 
Despite the fact that Zasalamel is low tier, I think he owns and if you use him correctly he can be a really good character.
 
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