Soul Calibur 6 Discussion

[linkorz]

Also some of the Philly guys like JJJ (unfortunately I can't remember his twitch or youtube channels off hand)

https://www.youtube.com/user/clownswitmuffins is J's youtube

 

[GreatOne1939]

@Leinahtan @Nyte until we receive an indication from @Vergeben that Taki and Talim are returning or not neither of you are right but not wrong either.

@Leinahtan @Nyte I'm going to say this once. Read this and just stop. Leinahtan I suspect you are trolling and just baiting and Nyte you're eating the bait like a simpleton. We ALL know you want Taki back. (Note I believe she is coming back by the way) but that doesn't mean that she is definitely 100% gonna be in the game no matter how much you want it. So now I wanna see you two stop going off topic. Once again NONE of us KNOW anything until it actually gets announced. I'm telling you all one final time to behave! There is nothing constructive in what you are doing.

 

[minimaxi]

Yep, but Talim & Zas deserve to not be in SCV because they aren't viable.

Character viability would remain across different games? what is this, astral logic?

 

[garjian]

Maybe it's just because I've run myself ragged as of late with not sleeping much as of late (I'll partially blame this hype train I'm on) but.... why don't they just give Talim wind element effects to her moves? Especially now, if she is back (which I have no confirmation of as like I've said before I only currently know 7 characters.... ok 8 now actually as of today, but more on that later) and older, more ingrained into the wind priestess life.... you would figure and hope they highlight that in a logical way that reflects her abilities increasing.
Giving her WIND! effects to her attacks because THE WIND! would help guide her in a higher tier direction finally by adding better reach and properties to her attacks. I'm not saying they have to go full Rashid or whatever. But giving her more wind element to her attacks could seriously help, be cool, and make perfect sense for her maturation and role.


If they don't bring Rock back, then they're obligated to bring Bangoo in this time around since he was the one canonical in-universe newcomer everyone thought would be introduced as playable on SCV due to the time skip and the potential he would have, and yet.... no Bangoo. :I

I have to say, among all the questionable decisions that V made with its roster, not having Talim, Zasalamel, and Bangoo helped make the time skip all the more baffling and pointless feeling to do when they didn't bring in the characters that would've gotten older and matured into adults (Talim and Bangoo) while Zasalamel would've been around because he's immortal and there's no reason for him to be left out of involvement in the happenings to some extent.
I'm going off on a tangent now, but you get my point. lol

You don't need big things like this to make a character perform well.
A few frames here or there is enough to make a strong combo, a great punish, a good mix-up, etc.

Most fighting game characters are 1 frame away from an infinite somewhere in their move list.

 

[SSfox]

The only reason Patroklos was hated is because he was like the main character of the game, which itself and logically didn't stand out for fans. Also the fact that he took another slot with an Alpha version where he was using a missing fan favorite Aka Setsuka moveset, i mean this just duplicate even more the hate on him by people.

Put him in the game in a normal way, with one slot like every character, don't make him feel to be the main character cause i think it was quite dumb tbh, and you'll see how people will start hate him less, and like him more.

Yeah, she really has no purpose at all, except showing how much Xianghua moved on after getting a son with Kilik. Like, destroying an obvious romance, that is really her only purpose, its not even like she has a very different personality or moveset, at least Patroklos has a very different moveset to his mother (in his "base form") and has a different (yet repulsive) personality.

This.

 

[Nyte]

The only reason Patroklos was hated is because he was like the main character of the game, which itself and logically didn't stand out for fans. Also the fact that he took another slot with an Alpha version where he was using a missing fan favorite Aka Setsuka moveset, i mean this just duplicate even more the hate on him by people.

Put him in the game in a normal way, with one slot like every character, don't make him feel to be the main character cause i think it was quite dumb tbh, and you'll see how people will start hate him less, and like him more.



This.

They also hate him because he's an arrogant, unlikable douchebag.

 

[garjian]

They also hate him because he's an arrogant, unlikable douchebag.

And he's quite an effective arrogant, unlikable douchebag. If he were playing the misguided villain he's clearly meant to be I'm sure it would go over pretty well.

He has more character than a lot of the cast, it's just not a likeable one.

 

[SSfox]

They also hate him because he's an arrogant, unlikable douchebag.

Which don't stand out as main character. Adon is basically the same in Street Fighter and people still like him, but imagine if this character was the main character in a Canon Street Fighter game, and even more, that there would be Alpha Adon that use moves of Sagat while this one isn't the game, would be the biggest blow in the SF community with the most insane level of hate!!

I personally liked Setsuka much more than Alpha Patroklos, it felt like a low-effort attempt to keep the style in the game without incorporating its corresponding character, most likely because they ran out of time on development I assume.

Very likely, i personally always though Kilik, Elysium, A Pat, O pyrrha were just a result of running out of time for the team.

@Leinahtan : I think both Talim and Taki will be in SC6, Twitter and Facebook banner of SC account should already be one nice hint of some upcoming characters.

 

[SSfox]

Here's a link where you can hear Geoff Keighley tease an announcement for a 6th game of a huge franchise, so SC6:

 

[Inferno7]

There some things i want to see in SC6:
1. Character select sreen with 3d models like in SC2 or SC3.
2. Weapon select in character select sreen (same like in SC2 or SC3).
3. Creation/Customisation characters on any arenas ( i mean you can select any arena not just some Cas arena like in SCV).
4. Character model viewer (you can select any stage, character, weapon and view model, listen characters voices, test animations and poses).
5. Battle Theater same like in SC3.

 

[Nyte]

Six more days, let's make this the best it can be on the last days of pure speculation because when it's revealed, there's no going back!

 

[garjian]

Six more days, let's make this the best it can be on the last days of pure speculation because when it's revealed, there's no going back!

I bet $1000 ZWD that Bangoo will be the only character model in game, everyone else is CaS only, and the only base model for CaS is Bangoo.

 

[Ryuhza]

Glad to be busy with other things while we wait. Less time to spend tearing my hair out.

 

[OmegaAce]

Dampierre makes the most sense.

I can see Dampierre adapting some of those moves. Jumping around firing arrows out of crossbows hidden in his sleeves hahaha. Still, I love his hidden blades too much... can he have both? XD

I bet $1000 ZWD that Bangoo will be the only character model in game, everyone else is CaS only, and the only base model for CaS is Bangoo.

The game would later include additional Bangoo DLC.

... BANGOOOOOO!!!!

 

[Foot]

Wouldnt mind damp having some good moves. As logn as they dont ruin his moveset.

 

[Nyte]

I have another question for @Vergeben. We all know Nightmare is going to be in the game because he's the icon of the franchise, but if the Passion Republic artworks are for real, is his style going to switch? Here's what the artwork depicts him as:

Spoiler: Nu Nightmare

As you can see, he's not using the one-handed zweihander we all know him for. Instead, he has a weapon on his wrist with spikes, and I think that he would be able to retract and extend the four spikes in combat. I'll admit this is a pretty badass concept, but it's kind of surprising if he's that different, seeing as how he's the mascot of the franchise I would've thought they'd keep him roughly the same. It's especially notable in that his appearance takes on a lovecraftian horror aesthetic, a far cry from what one would normally expect.

Of course, this could go back to the weapon switching thing that some characters have, because beta art (before this one was finalized) does portray him with the zweihander.

Spoiler: Beta

While it's easy to imagine Natsu getting changed to allow Taki to return with her old style, this seems like a completely new beast altogether. Another theory I have is that the Nu Nightmare above isn't actually Nightmare, but rather another manifestation of Soul Edge and is a separate character. Whatever it is, I'm curious.

Got any thoughts on this?

 

[garjian]

I have another question for @Vergeben. We all know Nightmare is going to be in the game because he's the icon of the franchise, but if the Passion Republic artworks are for real, is his style going to switch? Here's what the artwork depicts him as:

Spoiler: Nu Nightmare

As you can see, he's not using the one-handed zweihander we all know him for. Instead, he has a weapon on his wrist with spikes, and I think that he would be able to retract and extend the four spikes in combat. I'll admit this is a pretty badass concept, but it's kind of surprising if he's that different, seeing as how he's the mascot of the franchise I would've thought they'd keep him roughly the same. It's especially notable in that his appearance takes on a lovecraftian horror aesthetic, a far cry from what one would normally expect.

Of course, this could go back to the weapon switching thing that some characters have, because beta art (before this one was finalized) does portray him with the zweihander.

Spoiler: Beta

While it's easy to imagine Natsu getting changed to allow Taki to return with her old style, this seems like a completely new beast altogether. Another theory I have is that the Nu Nightmare above isn't actually Nightmare, but rather another manifestation of Soul Edge and is a separate character. Whatever it is, I'm curious.

Got any thoughts on this?

It's odd that everyone's switched weapon seems to be a Double Saber (Phantasy Star for 'Darth Maul double ended thingy'), which is basically what that Nightmare is using as well.
No wonder it didn't work out.

 

[Foot]

Im glad it didnt. I mean im 100% going to play that new character. But he should stay the only one capable of doing that.

 

[Nyte]

It's odd that everyone's switched weapon seems to be a Double Saber (Phantasy Star for 'Darth Maul double ended thingy'), which is basically what that Nightmare is using as well.
No wonder it didn't work out.

I suspect it would be a little different. The design gives me the impression that he'd retract and extend the spikes for different attacks, rather than just swing his arm around because that'd be awkward. I wonder if this design is in the game. We'll see.

 

[JohnMcKee]

The game would later include additional Bangoo DLC.

... BANGOOOOOO!!!!

And the announcer will go "Bangoo Bangoo... Bangoo!", same for intro of fights etc. That would be the most beautiful Soul game!

And for the "I wish" part, I would like to see Clare from Claymore in that game, plus the V-Trigger-like thing, that would work quite well!