Soul Calibur 6 Discussion

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For the record, I'm not really a fan of lazy-but-brilliant characters when it comes to martial artists. That's probably a big part of why I didn't like any of the east Asia kiddies in SCV.
 
I though Xiba was kind of cool, just not explored enough.
The idea had potential, naturally, what with his connections to being Kilik's bastard son and all that the story never got into.
But he instead came off as a Flanderized, one-dimensional character.
Like Ryuzha said though, the new kid trio on V were 2/3 being the simply lazy-but-brilliant martial artists thing with a Goku expy and Naruto expy featuring "I can't believe it's not Xianghua."
 
I don't get it. Being serious is a personality. If you don't like that, then that's fine. But calling characters like Taki, Siegfried, Sophitia, etc... as "not having any personality" is stupid and wrong.
Being serious is having a personality, Amy exemplifies this perfectly, she is serious, calm and composed. Taki and Siegfried do nothing but show a hardened face and say heroic lines, Sophitia barely got away from the personalityless characters, because her voice actress already sounded somewhat like she is about to cry, but with her actually having lines about it in SC4 helped a lot, she sounded conflicted.

I though Xiba was kind of cool, just not explored enough.
Pretty much the situation with all SC5 newcomers.
 
The idea had potential, naturally, what with his connections to being Kilik's bastard son and all that the story never got into.
But he instead came off as a Flanderized, one-dimensional character.
Like Ryuzha said though, the new kid trio on V were 2/3 being the simply lazy-but-brilliant martial artists thing with a Goku expy and Naruto expy featuring "I can't believe it's not Xianghua."

I couldn't stand Lexia as she was just a carbon copy of Xianghua, with none of the interesting history. That is one of the worst and laziest ways to replace a character. The one good thing I can say about Patty and Piranha is that at least their personalities were completely different to Sophitia and Cassandra's.
 
I don't get it. Being serious is a personality. If you don't like that, then that's fine. But calling characters like Taki, Siegfried, Sophitia, etc... as "not having any personality" is stupid and wrong.

Plus, they aren't just serious, anyway. Taki is sassy as fuck, she doesn't give a damn about anyone she comes across on her journey except maybe Sophitia, she's rebellious, caring and a non conformist, shown by how she basically turns herself into a shinobi to figure out what was going wrong with Toki. She's wise too, literally a philosopher as shown by her speech to Siegfried at the end of SCIV. And Siegfried literally got possessed by Soul Edge, he's living with the guilt of massacring thousands of people so it's not like you can blame him for being a little somber. He has a nice rapport with Hilde and in his opening line with her in SCV it shows he has a sense of humour he's just holding back because events in his life have made him shy. And then Sophitia's life is literally a Greek tragedy so it's no wonder her cheeky side is replaced by desperation to save and nurture her children.

...literally.
 
Being serious is having a personality, Amy exemplifies this perfectly, she is serious, calm and composed. Taki and Siegfried do nothing but show a hardened face and say heroic lines, Sophitia barely got away from the personalityless characters, because her voice actress already sounded somewhat like she is about to cry, but with her actually having lines about it in SC4 helped a lot, she sounded conflicted.
I'll be the first to say that Siegfried is the single most developed character in the entire series, so anyone who tries to act like Siegfried isn't a great or well written character is beyond me. They never even managed to get to a point of ruining him or stalling his development either. Even his short appearance in SCV's story showed him shift to a mentor role in the years between while keeping his resolve to him in assisting in the fight against Soul Edge without hogging the spotlight (though he probably just should have lol)
 
For the record, I'm not really a fan of lazy-but-brilliant characters when it comes to martial artists. That's probably a big part of why I didn't like any of the east Asia kiddies in SCV.
When I said "lazy", I meant as a personality and not his creation.

The idea had potential, naturally, what with his connections to being Kilik's bastard son and all that the story never got into.
But he instead came off as a Flanderized, one-dimensional character.
Like Ryuzha said though, the new kid trio on V were 2/3 being the simply lazy-but-brilliant martial artists thing with a Goku expy and Naruto expy featuring "I can't believe it's not Xianghua."
I never said they weren't one dimentional, its what happens when you don't have a story. But it doesn't mean they don't have a personality. Also, how exactly does Xiba's personality even comes close to Goku's? Every DBZ fanboy seem to think that a Sun Wukong inspired character is related to Goku, as if someone like Goku is worth making a character from. How exactly does a character that came from a forbidden love and is laid back compares to Goku, whose parents were married, killed by an evil alien and he sacrifices literally anything for a fight?
 
A lazy-but-talented-food-obsessed fighter isn't really a personality because that kind of character is present in... every manga ever? Even bloody Sailor Moon is that stereotype.

To go back to CaS: it would be awesome if SCV newcomers' outfit were CaS pieces.
Every type of personality has been used somewhere else, that is not an excuse.

I'll be the first to say that Siegfried is the single most developed character in the entire series, so anyone who tries to act like Siegfried isn't a great or well written character is beyond me.
His story is well written, he doesn't show a good personality regardless.
 
When I said "lazy", I meant as a personality and not his creation.


I never said they weren't one dimentional, its what happens when you don't have a story. But it doesn't mean they don't have a personality. Also, how exactly does Xiba's personality even comes close to Goku's? Every DBZ fanboy seem to think that a Sun Wukong inspired character is related to Goku, as if someone like Goku is worth making a character from. How exactly does a character that came from a forbidden love and is laid back compares to Goku, whose parents were married, killed by an evil alien and he sacrifices literally anything for a fight?
I don't think when anyone compares xiba to Goku they are talking about thier backstories, it's mainly about their personalities and looks that are similar. Goku had a staff and loves food just like xiba. they both were inspired by journey to the west and have a laid back personality.
not many people even know xibas backstory.
 
Every type of personality has been used somewhere else, that is not an excuse.
In the Soul series, he was the most cliché character. The rest had personalities similar to other characters from different stories but with a more personal twist. Xiba had nothing unique.
 
Pretty much the situation with all SC5 newcomers.

Pretty much... except Leixia. I personally fail to see what potential she has lol

I'll be the first to say that Siegfried is the single most developed character in the entire series, so anyone who tries to act like Siegfried isn't a great or well written character is beyond me. They never even managed to get to a point of ruining him or stalling his development either. Even his short appearance in SCV's story showed him shift to a mentor role in the years between while keeping his resolve to him in assisting in the fight against Soul Edge without hogging the spotlight (though he probably just should have lol)

Siegfried is one of the best character in any fighting game imo.
 
A lazy-but-talented-food-obsessed fighter isn't really a personality because that kind of character is present in... every manga ever? Even bloody Sailor Moon is that stereotype.
To be honest, I don't really like that much "fantasy" characters like ZWEI (wolf thing), Viola (floating ball thing), Xiba (young Kilik with tail, that looks like manga character) in Soul Calibur. I prefer "normal", mature characters just with "normal" weapons - swords, rods, axes etc., that are facing each other to get THAT special and otherworldly thing - Soul Edge.

But I also know that characters like Viola have a sizable fanbase. Probably among other things that's why SFV got Menat.
 
Since we're just talking about personalities and people mentioned Sophitia's, I feel like she's one of the characters who has a pretty realistic one. She's a tragic heroine who's been forced to protect an evil sword and kill innocent people. She literally is now doing the opposite of what her goal was for the past 4 games, and has had to turn her back on the gods she loved so much for her daughter. In SC4 her VA does a great job at portraying how pained she is for having to fight and hurt those who she knows are just.
 
Since we're just talking about personalities and people mentioned Sophitia's, I feel like she's one of the characters who has a pretty realistic one. She's a tragic heroine who's been forced to protect an evil sword and kill innocent people. She literally is now doing the opposite of what her goal was for the past 4 games, and has had to turn her back on the gods she loved so much for her daughter. In SC4 her VA does a great job at portraying how pained she is for having to fight and hurt those who she knows are just.

Exactly. How else is she meant to act? The fact that she does all this only strengthens her personality, not diminishes it.
 
Also, I looked up what Sophitia's voice actress sounds like normally and lmao it's so different. I take back what I said about a new voice actress, this woman's got a lot of range.

 
Also, I looked up what Sophitia's voice actress sounds like normally and lmao it's so different. I take back what I said about a new voice actress, this woman's got a lot of range.


Where did you see that she plays Sophitia? I know that she plays Hitomi from DOA5 but I can't find anything that says she did Sophitia.
 
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