Ban Hilde

Ban Hilde.

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Can't say I'm not surprised that a thread like this came up, but I still can't see a good enough reason to ban her.I mean those RO combos of hers are the only thing that make her good ,learn to side-step em' or GI and
Hildegard is screwed,lol. But if Hilde does get banned, then every other character thats considered "Unfair" will be banned eventually. But I'm a person that's against banning any character that isn't over-powered.
 
Hilde and Kilik aren't going anywhere, and Algol, Yoda and the others will be unbanned soon. So keep crying. It's what the community excels at, no problem solving, just problem banning.

This Ban Hilde movement smacks of sarcastic overtones about the community being ban happy, and it is my belief that the OP is certainly not serious, but simply MOCKING those of you who would agree with his post.

I was all for certain bans in the beggining, because I felt some of the characters had imbalance that would turn off newcomers to the scene and end up degenerating character selection and variety at tournies. I have since then educated myself further, listened informed opinions and explored counter measures- to reverse my mentality on banning some characters. I am now for a complete un-ban of all characters. You will see through results that no one character will be most dominant and that strong characters that prey on poor gameplanning and ignorance can be overcome by smart players who pay attention and adjust.

cha cha
 
there sure are alot of characters in this game that have shit that makes them up for debate for being banned.
Algol- bubbles to add to an already super solid character. Should ban the bubbles and not the character, but.. (BANNED)
Apprentice- breaks all grabs and makes some matchups damn near unwinnable because of it (BANNED in Atl and some other areas)
Yoda- gay, but he's not broken (BANNED)
Hilde- gay combo off a safe ass move? Banning the length of the combo and having an agreed upon total damage output off that launcher is reasonable, but not banning her.
Ivy- I'm talking about the before patch Ivy, too good, cause of that whip 6[A+B] in addition to combo damage.
Amy- this bitch is just too good, so banning her is up for debate as well, but it won't happen, just like how Hilde won't be banned.
 
DivineChaos97 said:
It's Ceirnian isn't it >_>
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Just in case this happens to be true, I'd like to take credit for pointing it out first.

[Loli_Drizzle] 1:27 pm: I think I know who BanHilde is.
[Loli_Drizzle] 1:27 pm: It's got to be Ceirnian.

Also, why is anyone taking this thread seriously? It's obviously a joke, people. Just lol and be on your way.
 
Let's just leave the anime/manga 'clones' unplayable, allow the rest, play for a year, go from there.

I've lost to Hilde in a tournament. I know that feeling of frustration and thinking the opponent playing wouldn't be half as good without her lol. I think her actual risk/reward ratio is beyond messed up. I feel you have to be more on point playing against her than anyone else in the cast. And even with all of that, I can't say she should be banned.

I liked AkazukinChaCha's line about being quick to problem ban rather than problem solve. Let's put this energy/effort into learning how to wreck Hilde's world rather than cop out and ban her this early on. A patch may come which alters her, or it may not. Safe bet is to assume there isn't one on the way and work on beating her current version. If one comes, hooray, then we'll be pleasantly surprised.
 
AkazukinChaCha said:
Hilde and Kilik aren't going anywhere, and Algol, Yoda and the others will be unbanned soon. So keep crying. It's what the community excels at, no problem solving, just problem banning.

This Ban Hilde movement smacks of sarcastic overtones about the community being ban happy, and it is my belief that the OP is certainly not serious, but simply MOCKING those of you who would agree with his post.

I was all for certain bans in the beggining, because I felt some of the characters had imbalance that would turn off newcomers to the scene and end up degenerating character selection and variety at tournies. I have since then educated myself further, listened informed opinions and explored counter measures- to reverse my mentality on banning some characters. I am now for a complete un-ban of all characters. You will see through results that no one character will be most dominant and that strong characters that prey on poor gameplanning and ignorance can be overcome by smart players who pay attention and adjust.

cha cha
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No Cha Cha. I am completely serious about banning Hilde, because I believe she will ruin the competitive scene.

Aris, a GREAT Soul Calibur player, said it best. After Cedric adapted a tiny bit to Aris' gameplay, Aris had to make an 100% overhaul just to keep up.

These aren't "bad" Soul Calibur players speaking up. They have analyzed, tried, and tested, and Hilde wasn't just found to be not fair. She was broken.


It's not as simple as "learn to sidestep or GI", when a mistake in either will cost you the round from anywhere in the ring. It changes everyone into a high risk/low reward character against her, especially since she's got one of the best steps and backdashes in the game.

In the sense of a community, it is definitely not fun to play against or watch.
 
Are you fucking retarded? What the fuck is your problem? Why the fuck should Hilde be banned? This is fucking bullshit. First of all, Algol shouldn't have been banned in the first place, and now you want to ban another character. You're just fucking afraid because you suck at the game and lost to a goddamn Hilde. Who are you gonna' want to ban next? Nightmare, because he's the only character with a soul charge? Yoshimitsu, because he can heal himself, teleport, and fly? Ivy, because she has ring out combos and a powerful command grapple?
 
I really hate being ringed out for every mistake but... DONT BAN CHARACTERS!!!!!
sWoRD_LoRD said:
Apprentice- breaks all grabs and makes some matchups damn near unwinnable because of it (BANNED in Atl and some other areas)
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LOL really? Just force him to do it a few times then he will have no force left and get that terrible stun every time he trys, plus it will kill his damage output.
 
As someone who's mained Hilde in AZ's offline matches for months now, she is pretty broken. She's not unbeatable, but I agree with whoever said "She turns all characters into high risk/low reward." I didn't originally think her doom combo was busted, but after you've done something like jump over the first hit of Cassandra's 33KK and rung her out with a C3B combo across the entire stage from full hp before the second K comes out, you start to wonder.
 
first off, it shoulda been blatantly obvious that Ceirnian would win the CA regional

Fighting games are not fair. Even nightmare vs nightmare is unfair and lizardman vs lizardman is unfair because 2P is better. This leads me to point out...

Arguing that Hilde is imbalanced is stupid because DUH she is imbalanced, but so are a lot of other things. The question is whether she is just so broken that she's the only character who can win.



I am not voting but I just want to say, if someone closes this topic before it has run its course, I hope you die in a fire.
 
Dullyanna said:
I can't believe people are taking this seriously, lol.
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I can't believe people aren't, because I believe a decision on this matter could make or break the competitive scene.


Rigel, if you have something to say, discuss it rather than ask for censorship. This is something that we need to talk about as a community.


Tiamat said:
first off, it shoulda been blatantly obvious that Ceirnian would win the CA regional

Fighting games are not fair. Even nightmare vs nightmare is unfair and lizardman vs lizardman is unfair because 2P is better. A

Arguing that Hilde is imbalanced is stupid because DUH she is imbalanced, but so are a lot of other things. The question is whether she is just so broken that she's the only character who can win.
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Tiamat understands the point of this topic. This isn't just a simple poll, nor is it a joke thread. This is something that needs to be discussed and agreed upon, and I'm hoping we don't make the same mistake we did about VC.
 
I'm curious as to your thoughts on Algol. I believe it's relevant to this thread, since many people who supported the ban of Algol don't seem to support banning Hilde.
 
BanHilde said:
Rigel, if you have something to say, discuss it rather than ask for censorship. This is something that we need to talk about as a community.
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Alright, but all that's going to come out of this is more bitching about how shitty the community is and how "ban happy" it is because certain people think we are inferior to Tekken or 2D fighters. I'm sick of hearing "ban happy."
 
Tiamat said:
Fighting games are not fair. Even nightmare vs nightmare is unfair and lizardman vs lizardman is unfair because 2P is better. This leads me to point out...
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What benefit does the 2P side get? Sorry haven't kept up with that.
 
Spman said:
If hilde is allowed allow algol
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This, please. Hilde should NOT be banned but she is worse than Algol. Really if banning is such a "go-to" option for the community than this ban IS reasonable, point being that that needs to change. I voted no but only because I'm against banning any character.
 
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