darkwings13
[14] Master
I was sorta thinking the same thing. What I think what happened was, the reason Tira didn't reappear again with Pattycakes and Pyrrha whas because she had gone to retrieve Nightmare's body. It could be Raphael at this point, but I think not. Then, Tira dragged him aaaall the way back to Ortheinsburg (no idea whatsoever how to spell that lol) and that is why Raph wakes up in a ratty dungeon and such. At least, that's what I think.
Interesting. It's a possibility but I'm unsure as to why Tira would want to lug that 'faker's' body thousand of miles back to Ostrheinsburg (idk how to spell it either lol).
This is for Raph fans. Badass vampire Raph is still around. Don't worry so much whether he is NM. The NM in SC6 will not be him and he will be just Raph again.
About being top prisoner: It's not like people knew Raph's true face. He wore a mask as Graf Dumas and wore different clothes. If they knew he was actually Raphael, I could only imagine how people would react to seeing the former head of the Sorel family (I've heard the Sorel family was arrrested).
This are just a random thoughts. Maybe NM/Graf Dumas was thrown into the abyss by Zwei and didn't die from the fall right away. Raph might have woke up and crawled out of the broken azure armor (reminiscent of his encounter with NM seventeen years ago where he has to drag his wounded back back home) but died when his strength left him. Since he was separated from the armor, people would not have identified him as Dumas and just casually put in a cell, assuming he was one of Dumas's servants.
I guess it's possible that people don't recognize him as Dumas if he ditched the armor and mask. (He left that place nekked? (>*_*)? Lol, jk. He wears dark brown undershirt and pants underneath it.)
Anyway, assuming that if Raph's story took place AFTER that battle. It meant the story continued onward after SC and SE was destroyed by the greek siblings. This is shocking and different from all the other SC games since SC and SE face off and one or another or both is destroyed at the end. If SCV continued the story after the two blades, then that is very very strange.
I'm not very interested in the Raph=Dumas argument anymore. All the points have been listed from both sides and there's really not much more to say. What I'm interested is the another theory related to the Raph=Dumas theory. (Yes, it's a theory based on a theory... theory).
Addressed to those who believes that Raph is Dumas. What are your opinions on Raph and Dumas existing as separate consciousness? It's not something crazy like Voldomort existing in several forms inside his horcruxes, but there's something similar I'm leaning towards. So any opinions is appreciated before I talk more about this idea of mine.