Balance Patch Community Vote

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Sistem changes:
1 no
2 no
3 ab
4 no

Characters changes:

Alpha:

5 no
6 ab
7 a
8 ab

Aeon:

9 no
10 a
11 a

Algol:

12 ab
13 ab
14 a

Astaroth:

15 a
16 a ( nerfing a little the damage in think is fair too )
17 no

Cervantes:

18 abc
19 ab
20 ab
21 a
( where is the nerf on 3b? a lot of player suggested it, I think it should be -15 )

Dampierre:

22 ab
23 ab

Ezio:

24 no
25 no
26 no

Hilde:

27 a
28 no

Ivy:

29 no
30 a
31 a

Leixia:

32 a
33 no
34 no
35 no

Maxi:

36 no
37 a

Mitsurugi:

38 ab
39 abd

Natsu:

40 no
41 no
42 no

Nightmare:

43 no

Patroklos:

44 b
45 a
46 a

Pyrrah:

47 no
48 no

Omega:

49 b
50 no
51 a

Raphael:

52 ab
53 a ( hitbox should be fixed too )

Siegfried:

54 b
55 a

Tira:

56 no
57 no
58 a

Viola:

59 abc
60 a
61 a

Voldo:

62 a
63 a

Xiba:

64 no

Yoshimitsu:

65 a

Zwei:

66 ad
 
I'm taking the approach of buffing the weaker characters and nerfing the ridiculous characters, and leaving everything else alone. The only exception is the CE grabs. I do think that we are in desperate need of fixing the stupid shit, but aside from the really bad outliers, the game is well balanced, and I do like the way it is now. I don't want to make a brand new game, I just want to fix what's broken.

1-4: NO

6: B
8: A

15: A
16: A
17: C

18: B
20: B
21: A

29: C

32: A
33: A
34: This is a complicated issue. Personally, I think an ideal fix would be to restore the old dodge window and then flip the scaling so that dodge = bad damage and raw = good damage.
35: A

38: A, B (but not too much!)
39: A, B, C, D

52: A, B
53: A

59: A, C

66: B, D (Would B not include A?)
 
Character changes:

Leixia:
32: a
33: a
34: a

Ivy:
30: a

Raphael:
52: a; b
53: a

ZWEI:
66: a; d

Cannot comment about the other characters.
 
Natsu:
40: NO. Others have mad pushback and range safety too, CH damage is one of her major and needed strengths.

41: NO. WS K got nerfed already, from safe to unsafe, combo damage also nerfed already via FC 2A+B nerf.

42: NO. At the moment has a nice balance of risk reward: 4A+B less safe, more damage; 4A+BA safe, less damage.
Without meter that is. I also think she needs it to make up for her other, weaker lows like 1A -26 on block.

I only post about Natsu because i don't think i know enough about the others.
I didn't post in the discussion because i think she is fine the way she is.
And i didn't want to be greedy. Else i would have asked for a lot of stuff, mostly buffs.
Maybe i should have.
 
SYSTEM CHANGES:

1.A
2.NO
3.A,C (slight instead of significant dmg on combos.)
4.B

CHARACTER CHANGES

5.A
6.ABC
7.C
8.A,B
9.A
10.A
11.A
12.B
13.NO
14.A
15.NO
16.NO
17.B
18.C
19.A
20.B
21.A
22.
23.
24.A
25.A
26.A
27.A
28.A
29.A,B
30.NO
31.NO
32.NO
33.A
34.A
35.NO
36.NO
37.A,B
38.A
39.A,C,D
40.A,B
41.A,B
42.B,C
43.A,B (+ guard gauge dmg decrease, slight throw dmg increase)
44.A,C
45.A
46.A
47.A,B,C
48.A,B
49.B,C
50.B
51.A
52.A,B
53.A
54.A,B
55.A
56.NO
57.NO
58.NO
59.A,B,C (+ reduce vertical tracking)
60.A
61.A
62.A
63.A
64.B
65.A
66.A,B,C,D
 
SYSTEM CHANGES:

1-A
2
3-C
4-A

CHARACTER CHANGES

5-A
6-B
7-C
8-A
9-A
10
11
12-A
13-B
14-A
15-A
16-A
17
18-A
19
20
21-A
22
23
24-A
25
26
27-A
28-A
29-B
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38-AB
39-AC
40-B
41
42
43
44-A
45
46
47-C
48
49-A
50-B
51
52-B
53
54-B
55-A
56
57
58
59-A
60
61
62-A
63
64
65
66
 
I don't understand why you people keep saing community this and that; it's a vote cast on the opinions of a couple of cliqued up members of this site. I will say that being good at the game doesn't mean you understand it, what's best for everyone, or have a better understandng of the game than the devs. That being said, I think PS's doing a fne job for the most part, so keep up the good work, guys!
 
acefrost said:
1.a
2.a
3. No

4.No
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Alpha Patroklos
5. a
6.a,b,c
7a,c
8.a,b
Aeon
9.No
10.No
11. No
Algol
12.a,b
13.a,b
14. a
Astaroth
15. a
16.a
17.a,b,c
Cervantes
18.a,b,c,d
19.a,b
20.a,b
21.a
Dampierre
22. a,b,d
23. a,b
Ezio
24.no
25.no
26.no
Hilde
27.a
28.a
Ivy
29.a,b,c
30.no
31.no
Leixia
32.no
33.a
34.no
35.no
Maxi
36.no
37.a,b
Mitsurugi
38.a,b
39. a,b,c,d
Natsu
40. a,b
41.a,b
42.a,b,c
Nightmare
43.a,b
Patrokolos
44.a,b,c
45. a
46.a
Pyrrha
47.a,b,c
48.a,b
Pyrrha Omega
49.NO
50.NO
51.NO
Raphael
52.No
53.No
Siegfried
54.no
55. no
Tira
56.no
57. no
58.a
Viola
59.a,b,c
60. a
61. a
Voldo
62.no
63. a
Xiba
64.a,b
Yoshimitsu
65. a
ZWEI
66.no
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Obvious troll post is obvious.
Come on bro, be a gentleman and make a real list.
 
acefrost said:
I am sorry we don't share the same opinion on this topic.
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If that is your actual opinion on what has to be done to improve balance than i am cool with that.

But knowing that you play omega and tira, it seemed really fishy that you voted yes for every other chars nerf and against every other chars buff, even for low tiers like raph.

Hell you even were against fixing the whiffing glitches - why is that, if i may ask? This better be good...
 
ChaosK said:
If that is your actual opinion on what has to be done to improve balance than i am cool with that.

But knowing that you play omega and tira, it seemed really fishy that you voted yes for every other chars nerf and against every other chars buff, even for low tiers like raph.

Hell you even were against fixing the whiffing glitches - why is that, if i may ask? This better be good...
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You may not ask....
 
1.No
2. No
3. No
4. No
6. ab
7.b
8. a
10.a
11. a
12.No
15. a
16. a
17. b
18. bc
19. ab
20. a
21. no
22. bc
23. No
24. a
25. a
26. a
27. a
29. no
32. a
36. no
38. ab
39. abd
40. B
41. ab
42. ac
43. a
44.b
45. no
46. no
49. No
51. a
52. ab
53. A
54. b
55. a
59. a
60 a
62. a
63. no
64. a
65.no
 
SYSTEM CHANGES:

1a
2NO
3a
4a

CHARACTER CHANGES

5
6
7a
8
9
10
11a
12b
13a
14a
15
16a
17a
18b
19a
20a
21
22
23
24
25
26
27a
28NO
29b
30
31
32a
33
34
35
36a
37b
38b
39b
40b
41
42a
43b
44b
45
46b
47
48
49b
50a
51
52a
53
54b
55
56
57a
58a
59b
60a
61
62a
63
64b
65
66c
 
SYSTEM CHANGES:

1 NO
2 NO
3 AB
4 B

CHARACTER CHANGES

5
6
7 A
8
9 A
10 A
11
12 B
13
14 A
15 A
16
17
18 A
19
20
21 A
22
23
24
25 A
26
27 A
28 A
29
30
31 A
32 A
33 A
34 - Personally, I want the old dodge window back, and scale WR B BE, BT B+K, 3B damage up to 70, CE damage to 85.
35 A
36 NO
37
38 AB
39 AB
40
41
42 B
43 A
44 B
45
46
47
48
49
50
51 A
52 A
53
54 B
55
56
57
58 A
59 AC
60
61 A
62 A
63
64 B
65
66 AB

And a thank you, Belial, for doing the work for all this. I know not many people have actually thanked you, but thanks. Namco doesn't listen to many of us who aren't at the top.
 
SYSTEM CHANGES:

1 A
2 A
3 A (I would prefer health increase over damage decrease.)
4

CHARACTER CHANGES

5
6
7 No
8
9
10
11
12
13
14 A
15
16
17 A
18
19
20
21
22
23
24 A
25 A
26 A
27
28
29 A
30
31
32 A
33 A
34 A
35 A
36
37
38 B
39 A B D
40
41
42
43
44 No
45
46
47 No
48
49 No
50 NO!!!
51 NO!
52 A B
53 A
54 B
55
56 No
57 No
58 A
59
60
61
62 A
63
64 No
65 No
66 A B D


Not voting on characters I know little about <_> And ya, this must have taken a lot of work. Thanks. Hopefully they listen and the results don't come out stupid.
 
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