BlazBlue - GuiltyGear's next gen cousin

TAGER
- new down status throw called Jet Finger which has magnetize property, 22D (the one like Ragna's 22C)
- Jet Finger can be linked after A driver and 3C
- Command throw immediately after 22D will lead to purple throw
- double the guard libra of other characters.
- new 4D move, magnetizes
- 623C has invincibility against HEAD attribute move
- Walk faster
- jump faster
- 2D is faster
- 5D has guard point and doesn't hit opponent far away, able to combo after it
- 3C pulls opponent back
- C is faster
- 2D, A driver's attracts opponent stronger when magnetized
- Magnetized property lasts shorter (around 3sec)

BANG
- JC is still an overhead (confirmed), J4C is not an overhead(?)
- new command throw DD designed for anti-air 2000 damage, air unblockble(?)
- Furinkazan comes with consumer version song
- D move in general is faster
- Poison does more damage
- 6C combo works on more characters
- C is a bit slower

HAKUMEN
- has new barrier move against projectile (?)
- barrier appears when he cuts the projectile (white circle with 封="Seal" kanji on the center)
- barrier absorbs the projectile and gets bigger
- barrier will last for a certain time and will disappear if opponent gets hit by it
- 2D and 6D lasts longer
- new 4C move, Gatotsu, as long as Litchi's 6B
- new J2A which is old J2C but slower
- Old JC is now J2C
- new JC move looks like second hit of Jin's 214D
- meter is easier to identify
- C 6C is faster
- cannot combo into 5C after 41236C
- JD guarantees knockdown
 
TSUBAKI
- Fast, runs in the same speed as Noel does.
- Order-Sol style character. (what happened to being a Jam style character? T___T)
- Charge with 5D, 2D and JD.
- Charge meter goes down when charged-special move is used.
- Charge Lv.1 command throw does 1800 damage, whereas charge Lv.5 command throw does 5000 damage.


TSUBAKI VIDEO!:


TAOKAKA
- J236B changed to only hit in horizontal direction.
- 3C>JD6>JC>J236B>J2DB doesn't combo.
- 5B counter hit > 6C does not combo.
- CD loop and taunt combo remains.


LITCHI
- 'All Green' now has a slower start up.
- Stick 5A, 2A links to 5B.
- DP is now RCable. (YAY! ^.^V)
- Easier to tech after DP hits, cannot end the combo with DP setup. (AWWWW T___T)

RACHEL
- RUMOR: Supposedly new teenage look and has more... "assets"?
- New projectile Distortion Drive.
- New DD uses up all wind and will change depending on the number of wind left.
- Wind doesn't immediately recover after consumption.
- Easier to tech after JC.
- No frog combo, frog does not activate during the combo.
- 'Sword Iris' command changes to 214C, has mid-air version.
- Can't cancel J2C while recovering from a landing.
- Hard to combo after 3C9D.
- Can not summon new frog immediately after the old one has activated.
- Frog is now also affected by wind, but frog moves very slow without wind.
- Easier to recover after 6B counter.
- J2C can not link to other normals on block.
- New frog meter.
 
So Noel and Rachel are pretty much unplayable right now. Lol. Why does Noel get the Nerf bat so hard? I dunno. It's not like she was overpowered or anything before. But if Noel is still shit in the final build I guess I might try out Tsubaki.
 
Ghengis_John said:
Yeah note the inverted gold crucifixes on both boots, the reinforced toes and the hanging flaps, the use of mantled cloaks:
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She's probably special forces or something. But I can't say I dig the look of the eyes. They're so cartoonish and dopey looking, like they're nodding off to sleep. Perhaps this is going to give them their own character but for sheer design purposes I would have went with something like an Egyptian or Quaker eye.



Any word on the changes to these guys?
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Well, her design is based off the All-Seeing Eye/Eye of Providence schtick. Probably with some Greek mythology in there. I imagine her whole outfit is actually some spell or part of the weapon she wields. If you notice in the character art, her eyes are slightly aglow to match with the other three eyes. She's basically in a state of omniscience.

Jin x Tsubaki = Jinbaki? Tsujin? I dunno what the pairing would be called.
 
DivineChaos97 said:
TAGER
- new down status throw called Jet Finger which has magnetize property, 22D (the one like Ragna's 22C)
- Jet Finger can be linked after A driver and 3C
- Command throw immediately after 22D will lead to purple throw
- double the guard libra of other characters.
- new 4D move, magnetizes
- 623C has invincibility against HEAD attribute move
- Walk faster
- jump faster
- 2D is faster
- 5D has guard point and doesn't hit opponent far away, able to combo after it
- 3C pulls opponent back
- C is faster
- 2D, A driver's attracts opponent stronger when magnetized
- Magnetized property lasts shorter (around 3sec)
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If there is a loving god, this will be true.
 
Yeeeah, Noel and Rachel got the nerf bat rammed into the vag. They were both complete ass the first loke test from the info provided.

Considering Rachel was one of the top 3 it's somewhat understandable even though it was too harsh. However, Noel (being mid tier AT BEST) getting it as bad makes no sense what-so-ever.

Oh well, all hope was lost in this first loke test. Bring on the next one. If the changes stay, I'll just cheese Haku-men's buffs and bump down Noel to secondary.
 
ShinobiBrown said:
Yeeeah, Noel and Rachel got the nerf bat rammed into the vag. They were both complete ass the first loke test from the info provided.

Considering Rachel was one of the top 3 it's somewhat understandable even though it was too harsh. However, Noel (being mid tier AT BEST) getting it as bad makes no sense what-so-ever.

Oh well, all hope was lost in this first loke test. Bring on the next one. If the changes stay, I'll just cheese Haku-men's buffs and bump down Noel to secondary.
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Seems to me they're just trying to expand her options, but they would need to tone down some of her stuff first.

I mean, 5A, 22C and 6B 6C and the throw-cancel combo were more than over-abused. So in some ways it makes sense to tone these down and buff up some of her other stuff. And while I'd hate to deal with any more Noel D spammers, it would be nice if the stuff were less risky and more combo friendly.

Of course, the fact that 5A, et al, were abused so much speaks volumes of just how awful her other options were.

As for Jin, well, he needed some stuff toned down. j.B is so fast that the few players with anti-air just couldn't punish or anticipate it well enough. I'm glad that Jin's new j.C has horizontal coverage. He really lacked a good air-to-air move.

I'm curious to see what's going to happen to Jin's ground game. He only had a few good ground combos and his air combo game relied on specific (though frequent) cases of being able to punish or hit crouching. With 5C, 6C no longer linking, and his counter hit DPs no longer able to prop up air combos, I'm curious to see how he'll be able to execute combos now.

Maybe Frostbite will last long enough for a 6C to connect? There's also 2D being reportedly faster now.

There's still a few location tests left, so maybe they'll backpedal on some stuff or introduce some new stuff which Jin and Noel can better manage. At least Jin has some new defensive options (Yukikaze) to deal with his lackluster pressure game.


I'm so making Tsubaki my major alt if not my main by the time CS comes out. The idea of powering up a movelist with each attack is quite intriguing for me.
 
Well, they were over abused because, as you said, that's all she had. And even then, that wasn't enough to get her out of mid tier status. Both her and Ragna suffered from the same linear syndrome. Hence, their place on the tier listings.

Now, her few good options were taken away with NOTHING to compensate. They didn't buff anything of her's to give her more options. Faster Optic Barrel start-up with less frame advantage? That will certainly help [/sarcasm]. They simply made the few good options she did have 2x worse rendering her to be trash along with Rachel in this loke test. Like I said, bring on the next loke test. Noel has no positive future with the current one.

Only nerf I agree with 100% that they did with Noel was nerfing her 22C loop damage (it lead to stupid high damage). That's about it.

Only people who could possibly be rejoicing over the Noel news in the first loke test are D spammers who got new D moves to spam.
 
I have no idea what they tried to accomplish with Rachel. She had to turtle quite a bit before she could start her rushdown, but now its as if they want her to turtle even more, with even worse zoning. Her new distortion drive, I can't possibly imagine being good enough to merit costing all wind, when they've already nerfed her wind regen and got rid of frog combos.
 
Keep in mind, that one day of playing with a new character only makes what doesn't work readily apparent. It doesn't present new possibilities as easily. Hopefully they'll get a good balance with this game, the first try didn't work out so hot.
 
iKotomi said:
I have no idea what they tried to accomplish with Rachel. She had to turtle quite a bit before she could start her rushdown, but now its as if they want her to turtle even more, with even worse zoning. Her new distortion drive, I can't possibly imagine being good enough to merit costing all wind, when they've already nerfed her wind regen and got rid of frog combos.
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Well, if there is one good hope for Rachel...

it's hope that her knocked down hitbox is shrunk so Jin's Ice Car can't hit it from across the screen.
 
Hazama uses knives and chains.

Hazama has a flash kick (Dark Flash Kick?)

Wonder if Hazama will be the new scrub character?
 
Hazama/Terumi confirmed. I came.

If Bang is fucking trash tier again, I'm hopping on dat Hazama bandwagon.
 
Rekano said:
hmmm...some system and character changes are re-interesting me.

If I jump back on this, Im using Hazama.
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If it's not a Haku-men, Tager, or Bang character change, I don't know how you could be re-interested, lol.

Anyway, common consensus is that everyone and their mother is going to be using Hazama at one point or another JUST because.

 
Is there any confirmation that this is a sequel to Calamity Trigger, at least in story, or whether it's just a rehash like GGXX#R?
 
ShinobiBrown said:
If it's not a Haku-men, Tager, or Bang character change, I don't know how you could be re-interested, lol.

Anyway, common consensus is that everyone and their mother is going to be using Hazama at one point or another JUST because.

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For some reason, I think of Hazama having a more Jazzy-rock tune.


Though I bet his boss form, Terumi, will have something similar to Nu.
 
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