Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate

So I give up on Legend Arcade, Legend Time Attack and all of Survival. Can't do'em.

Every time I start to start an attack I eat a counter hold. Every time. Its either the opponent sidesteps me, or holds my attack. I can't put any sort of pressure on the opponent or even get many hits in when the computer starts reading inputs like crazy. It's just plain stupid.

And I can't even get ten wins on rookie survival.
 
oh and i also found out that Kokoro's 214P has a glitch that happens regularly. at the tip of the hit box of the attack the opponent will glitch suddenly just outside of it and then glitch back to where they were. this leaves Kokoro wide open to being punished where she normally shouldn't have because the attack would have landed. this needs to be fixed if this is a regular occurring problem.
 
Windstar said:
So I give up on Legend Arcade, Legend Time Attack and all of Survival. Can't do'em.

Every time I start to start an attack I eat a counter hold. Every time. Its either the opponent sidesteps me, or holds my attack. I can't put any sort of pressure on the opponent or even get many hits in when the computer starts reading inputs like crazy. It's just plain stupid.

And I can't even get ten wins on rookie survival.
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God bless Youtube....

 
My sole complaint is that costume packs cost too much. Not all of them are winners, your favorite character might not have enough and a lot are recolors. At this point owning all the costumes will run you 60 some dollars, which is effectively doubling the cost of the game. TN should do something about those price points. Also, sexy as that white dress of Helena's is (which she borrowed from lei fang but looks better in), Greek Dress still = take my money.

So far Rig and Elliot have one DLC costume a piece and Helena has only one I'd use.
 
I could get past the recolor/borrowed costumes shenanigans if I knew that everyone could see them! I made the mistake long ago (around the first DLC pack) of buying the costume pack with Kasumi in her cute overalls. Then I found out i'm the only one that sees this shit? Fuck is that, Team Ninja?

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one question, do you guys know where can I find a decent tier list? all I have found are tier list made by casuals that are 0 accurate.
 
The community is still in discussions over the tier list as the meta-game is still being defined (the game hasn't been out for more than 3 months yet.

Right now though, the general consensus is top would be Lei Fang, Gen Fu, Kokoro, Helena, Jann Lee, and possibly Ayane.

Of course, still subject to change.
 
Yeah I guessed so, is just that in the DOAworld site a guy posted Ayane as the lowest tier so kind of made me question what is up with that community?
 
For those still having trouble picking up the game, FSD has been working with Emperor_Cow in preparing a tutorial video series for DOA5. Here's the teaser trailer, we've been spending the past 3 months working on it with a few notable names helping out in explaining the system:

 
I hate helena, and it's no doubt that her best tool is her force tech game that can be done in any juggle.

It's basically Bass' pickup with better advantage, better looping, and better options after the pick-up. So I hate it, because it's better than Bass.

I think the core issue is 1) the number of ways she has to juggle/put you into it (every juggle), 2) the options she has after the tech including tracking sweeps that reset the entire situation, a throw that launches you from the same position, and linear mid attacks that launch you, or she could play the stun game and do any of the three at any additional time, string delay also makes it difficult to guard/throw punish, and the bokuho duck avoids all normal poking requirements.

So yeah, hate her, but mainly it's because I hate the force-tech system, not so much hate Helena.
 
Saw her winning NEC XIII, so I kind of understand your hate, after watching the finals it does seem annoying :P
 
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