Slayer_X64
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OBLIVION RELATED WALL OF TEXT:
another thing not to overlook is the range of the weapon you are using. it goes like this from shortest range to longest range. this is also coincidentally the same for slowest to fastest weapon:
-fists
-daggers
-short swords/war axes
-longswords/maces
-battleaxes
-claymores
-war hammers
-ranged weapons/spells
use the weapon suitable for you. anything longsword/mace or longer will allow you to keep your opponent at a distance by striking with the tip of your blade. also just from personal experience it seems that occasionally you can avoid recoiling off of some1's shield when you strike witht he tip of your weapon.
as for skills, i will not interfere here. it is up to you how you play.
instead of using torches, use the spells starlight and night eye to see in the dark(especailly night eye since it has infinite range and other enemies still cant see u)
for attributes just remember their main functions:
STRENGTH - deal more damage, carry more shit
WILLPOWER - more fatigue, faster magika regen
INTELLIGENCE - more magika, increased spell damage
SPEED - you move faster
AGILITY - affects how often you stagger while blocking or being hit. this is almost manditory, and needs to be 90+ at higher levels or you will constantly die from stunlock
PERSONALITY - this one isnt really manditory but it levels up itself once you stop using torches and start using starlight and night eye instead. basically just makes people like u better, and isnt manditory for survival like agility is.
LUCK - again not really manditory. it affects the game and the way it is played yes(i wont get into detail unless u ask) but it does nothing for your survival.
JOIN AND COMPLETE DARK BROTHERHOOD FIRST. that way when you finish all its quests, you dont get kicked out of any of your guilds for killing members of your guild(this is especially problematic with the mages guild)
JOIN THE MAGES GUILD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. the ability to enchant your own items is more valuble than just about anything else in the game. if u cant go do something by yourself, go to the mages guidl, whore out your equipment with enchantments and then go back to what u were doing, you will surely succeed. also the sooner you join the mages guild the easier it is to get into the mages guild because of the way everything in the game levels with you(just for test of knowledge, i believe all guards are approximately 7 levels higher than you)
WHORE OUT THE FIGHTERS GUILD FOR INCOME. its another good way to get paid besides oblivion gates and exploring random dungeons.
it is best to also complete all of the daedra shrines as soon as possible as some glitches prevent some from being completed. this happens randomly, although only with 1 particular shrine(cant remember what its called)
for combat, 1st off, no matter what class you are, or what style, it helps to have a touch style magic attack since it go's through shields and gives your stamina a quick rest, and it helps when you get surrounded by enemies and you find even while ur landing an attack on your opponent, it hits him but also hits his buddies shield beside him. 2nd dont underestimate the power of blocking as stated above u can get 2 free shots, sometimes even 3 with smaller weapons, and at later levels, u sometimes get an automatic recoil attack from blocking that often staggers opponents, and can potentially disarm. not to mention your shield will NEVER break at higher levels, so an enchanted shield that gives extra armor can be the most important piece of equipment in your inventory. also, rely on rings, spells and natural abilities to raise your defense. IMO just adding more armor enchantments to even just clothing is more important, especially since the main barrage of attacks you will encounter are physical. increasing your armor class even on clothes alone reduces the damage you recieve, and with high enough armor class you are almost impervious to physical attacks, even at level 50+.(fully enchanted highest level heavy armor with all 10% shield enchantments still has AC of 60 + shield AC if you've journeyman in blocking, at max block giving you practically max *displayed* AC with broken equipment) there will be magic yes, but that is what higher level items such as the flame ring(100% resist fire) are for. always keep your alchemy and armorer skills up, since u need to carry around as many healing and magic potions as possible at any given time and you need to AT least keep your weapon and shield in good repair. if you ever do get alchemy maxed, you can make especially damaging poisons out of rare ingredients, some of which can flat out kill humanoid enemies such as bandits a few seconds after aplication. eventually you will also be able to make more powerful healing potions than you could ever buy which is important because u can drink them instantly, where as healing spells take time to cast. magic weapons can turn the tide of battle if used at the right time since certain enchantments can effectively double the damage your weapon does.
if you are just starting out, i highly reccomend heavy armor, as it provides much better protection than light armor for most of the game(light armor at master level has equal AC to heavy armor at master level because u get an AC bonus that is not marked on the item. consider it a passive ability almost) and in the end both pieces of armor do not encumber you anyways.
because of the way i play, i reccomend the longer weapons. no there is nothing wrong with using a 2 handed weapon at times, especially when you want to keep your opponent at bay(at times this can work better than what black dog listed above, which i like to call shield wall tactics) you can even win fights without a scratch if u use the length of your weapon to judge how far away they are from you and you keep stepping backwards.
when fighting in groups always use shorter weapons, as it will severely reduce the risk that you hit friendlies(that means daggers and shortswords are good for that situation as well)
therefore on my character i always carry 1 of each type of weapon, short, single handed long, and 2 handed long. they all come in handy for certain situations.
*max displayed AC is 85, however boosting AC above this does still benefit you, at least on the PS3 version(yes i own both PS3 and PC =P). therefore you can theoretically boost your AC well over 200 at higher levels. or you can wear lower level armor if you prefer for appearance effect and still be viable in combat situations(i prefer ebony to be honest. it looks really cool)
*at max level mastery both light and heavy armor STILL reduce your magic spell effectiveness by 5%(ie you will only get 95% of the spells effect) although this is hardly noticable(if ur OCD, wear enchanted clothing for amror)
for ranged attacks i actually reccomend using magic attacks, and depending on your potions for healing unless its an emergancy. whipping out a bow means u cant block with your shield. eventually unless you are centered around magic attacks you will not even require a ranged attack except for certain things like shooting items down from high places.
*bonus - to gain a really effective magic attack for early on in the game go to the mages guild in skingrad and do the quest required to join, but remember to ask the guild leader for assistance before you leave. she will teach you the weak fireball spell which requires less energy to cast than flare yet does more damage. very efficient to learn and well worth it.
as for vampirism i am indifferent. just remember that beggars are a good, free way to feed at night if u need to remain stage 1. and if you ever want to free yourself of vampirism, SAVE THE GAME before you start the quest as the quest does have a very rare bug in it that can prevent you from completing it.
also just take my word for it and dont do the following:
-do not go through the game as a level 1 character
-do not ever enchant armor with the chameleon spell
-do not look up how to exploit glitches for this game
all of this will ruin the game for you.
as for PC vs PS3, yea the PC has expansions, but i wouldnt even care about them until you've done absolutely everything in the PS3 version. PS3 still has knights of the nine and Shivering isles, and that is plenty already. as for mods im also indifferent. there are many ways to exploit glitches to break the balance for this game, but if u remain ignorant to that the game will remain balanced for you. the frame rate is still fine as long as you dont dump ur shit on the floor in your houses. empty out and use a chest in your house instead and use it for storage(i have over 1000 items in a chest in my house in skingrad because im trying to get a complete catalogue of every item in the game for no apparent reason other than im OCD.) note however the game will lag when you open a chest that has that many items in it, but its still possible to browse the items. also u can use display cases to show off your favorite weapons and armor. yea PS3 has SLIGHT framerate problems, but most of the time its not even noticable(i mean come on! a high end computer can run oblivion at over 100fps! be grateful of your 55-60fps) and yes 360 has more DLC than PS3. really ur only missing out on having a tower and getting a dagger that kills people. play on/with whatever you bought 1st, or are comfortable with. once thats all done just hop straight for the PC version(=/ my damn PC makes me play the game in low quality settings WHILE OVERCLOCKED...i need a new CPU)
oh yea NEVER drop more than 2 sigil stones in the same room. dropping like 5 is really loud and 10+ will blow your speakers. trust me from personal experience TT-TT
also my final tip, is that every time you save your game, save it to a seperate save file. that way if something like one of these glitches ever happens you dont lose hours upon hours of work(yes it affects your autosaves too). you only need i'd say about 2-5 save files per character. however if you want to be real crazy about it, or if u play on PC just make a new save every time.
if you ever need to know something but dont feel like reading, ask me. im basically a walking encyclopedia on oblivion. its safe to say i know as much about it as i do about Siegfried. ask me on here in PM, in this thread, or even on PSN.
if you guys want we can start an official oblivion chatroom on PSN and play together. i would thoroughly enjoy that, and i think some of you guys would too.
EDIT: it took me 2 hours to type all this! TT-TT
another thing not to overlook is the range of the weapon you are using. it goes like this from shortest range to longest range. this is also coincidentally the same for slowest to fastest weapon:
-fists
-daggers
-short swords/war axes
-longswords/maces
-battleaxes
-claymores
-war hammers
-ranged weapons/spells
use the weapon suitable for you. anything longsword/mace or longer will allow you to keep your opponent at a distance by striking with the tip of your blade. also just from personal experience it seems that occasionally you can avoid recoiling off of some1's shield when you strike witht he tip of your weapon.
as for skills, i will not interfere here. it is up to you how you play.
instead of using torches, use the spells starlight and night eye to see in the dark(especailly night eye since it has infinite range and other enemies still cant see u)
for attributes just remember their main functions:
STRENGTH - deal more damage, carry more shit
WILLPOWER - more fatigue, faster magika regen
INTELLIGENCE - more magika, increased spell damage
SPEED - you move faster
AGILITY - affects how often you stagger while blocking or being hit. this is almost manditory, and needs to be 90+ at higher levels or you will constantly die from stunlock
PERSONALITY - this one isnt really manditory but it levels up itself once you stop using torches and start using starlight and night eye instead. basically just makes people like u better, and isnt manditory for survival like agility is.
LUCK - again not really manditory. it affects the game and the way it is played yes(i wont get into detail unless u ask) but it does nothing for your survival.
JOIN AND COMPLETE DARK BROTHERHOOD FIRST. that way when you finish all its quests, you dont get kicked out of any of your guilds for killing members of your guild(this is especially problematic with the mages guild)
JOIN THE MAGES GUILD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. the ability to enchant your own items is more valuble than just about anything else in the game. if u cant go do something by yourself, go to the mages guidl, whore out your equipment with enchantments and then go back to what u were doing, you will surely succeed. also the sooner you join the mages guild the easier it is to get into the mages guild because of the way everything in the game levels with you(just for test of knowledge, i believe all guards are approximately 7 levels higher than you)
WHORE OUT THE FIGHTERS GUILD FOR INCOME. its another good way to get paid besides oblivion gates and exploring random dungeons.
it is best to also complete all of the daedra shrines as soon as possible as some glitches prevent some from being completed. this happens randomly, although only with 1 particular shrine(cant remember what its called)
for combat, 1st off, no matter what class you are, or what style, it helps to have a touch style magic attack since it go's through shields and gives your stamina a quick rest, and it helps when you get surrounded by enemies and you find even while ur landing an attack on your opponent, it hits him but also hits his buddies shield beside him. 2nd dont underestimate the power of blocking as stated above u can get 2 free shots, sometimes even 3 with smaller weapons, and at later levels, u sometimes get an automatic recoil attack from blocking that often staggers opponents, and can potentially disarm. not to mention your shield will NEVER break at higher levels, so an enchanted shield that gives extra armor can be the most important piece of equipment in your inventory. also, rely on rings, spells and natural abilities to raise your defense. IMO just adding more armor enchantments to even just clothing is more important, especially since the main barrage of attacks you will encounter are physical. increasing your armor class even on clothes alone reduces the damage you recieve, and with high enough armor class you are almost impervious to physical attacks, even at level 50+.(fully enchanted highest level heavy armor with all 10% shield enchantments still has AC of 60 + shield AC if you've journeyman in blocking, at max block giving you practically max *displayed* AC with broken equipment) there will be magic yes, but that is what higher level items such as the flame ring(100% resist fire) are for. always keep your alchemy and armorer skills up, since u need to carry around as many healing and magic potions as possible at any given time and you need to AT least keep your weapon and shield in good repair. if you ever do get alchemy maxed, you can make especially damaging poisons out of rare ingredients, some of which can flat out kill humanoid enemies such as bandits a few seconds after aplication. eventually you will also be able to make more powerful healing potions than you could ever buy which is important because u can drink them instantly, where as healing spells take time to cast. magic weapons can turn the tide of battle if used at the right time since certain enchantments can effectively double the damage your weapon does.
if you are just starting out, i highly reccomend heavy armor, as it provides much better protection than light armor for most of the game(light armor at master level has equal AC to heavy armor at master level because u get an AC bonus that is not marked on the item. consider it a passive ability almost) and in the end both pieces of armor do not encumber you anyways.
because of the way i play, i reccomend the longer weapons. no there is nothing wrong with using a 2 handed weapon at times, especially when you want to keep your opponent at bay(at times this can work better than what black dog listed above, which i like to call shield wall tactics) you can even win fights without a scratch if u use the length of your weapon to judge how far away they are from you and you keep stepping backwards.
when fighting in groups always use shorter weapons, as it will severely reduce the risk that you hit friendlies(that means daggers and shortswords are good for that situation as well)
therefore on my character i always carry 1 of each type of weapon, short, single handed long, and 2 handed long. they all come in handy for certain situations.
*max displayed AC is 85, however boosting AC above this does still benefit you, at least on the PS3 version(yes i own both PS3 and PC =P). therefore you can theoretically boost your AC well over 200 at higher levels. or you can wear lower level armor if you prefer for appearance effect and still be viable in combat situations(i prefer ebony to be honest. it looks really cool)
*at max level mastery both light and heavy armor STILL reduce your magic spell effectiveness by 5%(ie you will only get 95% of the spells effect) although this is hardly noticable(if ur OCD, wear enchanted clothing for amror)
for ranged attacks i actually reccomend using magic attacks, and depending on your potions for healing unless its an emergancy. whipping out a bow means u cant block with your shield. eventually unless you are centered around magic attacks you will not even require a ranged attack except for certain things like shooting items down from high places.
*bonus - to gain a really effective magic attack for early on in the game go to the mages guild in skingrad and do the quest required to join, but remember to ask the guild leader for assistance before you leave. she will teach you the weak fireball spell which requires less energy to cast than flare yet does more damage. very efficient to learn and well worth it.
as for vampirism i am indifferent. just remember that beggars are a good, free way to feed at night if u need to remain stage 1. and if you ever want to free yourself of vampirism, SAVE THE GAME before you start the quest as the quest does have a very rare bug in it that can prevent you from completing it.
also just take my word for it and dont do the following:
-do not go through the game as a level 1 character
-do not ever enchant armor with the chameleon spell
-do not look up how to exploit glitches for this game
all of this will ruin the game for you.
as for PC vs PS3, yea the PC has expansions, but i wouldnt even care about them until you've done absolutely everything in the PS3 version. PS3 still has knights of the nine and Shivering isles, and that is plenty already. as for mods im also indifferent. there are many ways to exploit glitches to break the balance for this game, but if u remain ignorant to that the game will remain balanced for you. the frame rate is still fine as long as you dont dump ur shit on the floor in your houses. empty out and use a chest in your house instead and use it for storage(i have over 1000 items in a chest in my house in skingrad because im trying to get a complete catalogue of every item in the game for no apparent reason other than im OCD.) note however the game will lag when you open a chest that has that many items in it, but its still possible to browse the items. also u can use display cases to show off your favorite weapons and armor. yea PS3 has SLIGHT framerate problems, but most of the time its not even noticable(i mean come on! a high end computer can run oblivion at over 100fps! be grateful of your 55-60fps) and yes 360 has more DLC than PS3. really ur only missing out on having a tower and getting a dagger that kills people. play on/with whatever you bought 1st, or are comfortable with. once thats all done just hop straight for the PC version(=/ my damn PC makes me play the game in low quality settings WHILE OVERCLOCKED...i need a new CPU)
oh yea NEVER drop more than 2 sigil stones in the same room. dropping like 5 is really loud and 10+ will blow your speakers. trust me from personal experience TT-TT
also my final tip, is that every time you save your game, save it to a seperate save file. that way if something like one of these glitches ever happens you dont lose hours upon hours of work(yes it affects your autosaves too). you only need i'd say about 2-5 save files per character. however if you want to be real crazy about it, or if u play on PC just make a new save every time.
if you ever need to know something but dont feel like reading, ask me. im basically a walking encyclopedia on oblivion. its safe to say i know as much about it as i do about Siegfried. ask me on here in PM, in this thread, or even on PSN.
if you guys want we can start an official oblivion chatroom on PSN and play together. i would thoroughly enjoy that, and i think some of you guys would too.
EDIT: it took me 2 hours to type all this! TT-TT
