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[12] Conqueror
i11: SCH K/SSH K
i12: SCH A
i13: K
i14: 6K
i15: 6A/1K/3K/66K/FC 2K/WS K/a+kA
i16: B6/SBH K
i17: A+G_B+G/3B/4A/WS A/WS B/FC 2A/agA/SRSH B
i18: 4B/A+B/A/SSH A/SSH A+B/SCH B/SRSH K
i19: 3A/4K/2A
i21: 2K
i22: A+K/66A/FC 2B/FC 2A+G_B+G
i23: 2B/11B/SBH A
i24: 1B/B
i25: 6B
i26: SSH B
i27: 1A
i28: 2A+B/SCH A+B

A

H: +4
C: +6
B: -2

[A]~SSH

H: +1~+2
C: +3~+4
B: -4~-3

AA

H: -4
B: -13

AAB

H: KND
B: -14~-13*

AA[ B ]~SBH

H: KND
B: -3~-2*

agA

H: KND
B: +2~+3

ag[A]~SSH

H: KND
B: -9~-8

6A

H: -1
C: KND
B: -16~-15

6[A]~SSH

H: -2
C: KND
B: -16~-15

3A

H: KND
B: -14~-13

2A~FC

H: -8~-7
C: -4~-3
B: -17~-16*

1A

H: -6~-5
B: -16~-15*

1AA

H: KND
B: -16~-15*

4A

H: +0
C: Stun
B: -8

4[A]~SRSH

H: +5
C: Stun
B: -3

FC 2A~FC

H: -8
C: -5
B: -17*

WS A

H: -11~-9
B: -21~-18

WS AA

H: KND
B: -22~-21*

WS [A]~SSH

H: +3~+5
B: -7~-5

8_9A

H: KND
B: -9~-7

7A

H: +4
B: -9~-8

BT 2A~FC

H: +4
B: -8*

BT A

H: +7~+8 (less advantage at tip range)
B: -2~-1

B

H: -2~-1
C: +2~+3
B: -8~-7

[ B ]~SBH

H: +6
C: +10
B: +0

BB

H: -3~-2
B: -15~-14

BBB

H: KND
B: -22~-21

BB[ B ]~SCH

H: KND
B: -8~-7

B2A

H: KND
B: -15~-14*

B2[A]

H: KND
B: +3~+4

B6

H: +1~+3*
B: -9~-6 (less safe at tiprange)

B4

H: Stun
B: +0*

B:4

H: Stun
B: +4*

6B

H: KND
B: -18~-15

3B

H1: KND
H2: -7~-6
B: -22~-20

3[ B ]~SCH

H1: KND
H2: +6~+7
B: -5~-4

2B~FC

H: +0
B: -2

2[ B ]~SBH

H: +6
B: -2

1B

H1: KND
H2: +0
B: -16~-14

4B

H: -2*
C: -1*
B: -13

4BB

H: -2*
B: -14

4BBB

H: KND
B: -14*

236B

H: KND
B: UB

FC 2B~FC

H: +0
B: -8

FC 2[ B ]~FC

H: +6
B: -2

WS B

H: KND
C: Stun
B: -19~-18

WS [ B ]~SCH

H: KND
C: Stun
B: -1~+0

8_9B

H: KND
B: -8~-6*

7B

H: +1*
B: -8*

BT B

H: +4
B: -6

BT BB

H: -7
B: -18*

K

H: +2
B: -8

3K

H: -3
B: -13

3KK

H: KND
B: -20*

3KKB

H: Stun
B: -16

6K

H: -1
C: Stun
B: -14

2K

H: -6
B: -18*

2K(KKKK)

H: -8
B: x

1K~FC

H: -4
C: +2
B: -14*

4K

H: +4~+5
C: KND
B: -6~-5

FC 2K~FC

H: -4
C: +2
B: -14*

WS K

H: +4
B: -10

7_8_9K

H: +4~+5
C: KND
B: -12~-11

BT K

H: +4
B: -4

BT 2K~FC

H: KND
B: -20*

A+B~SSH

H: +0
B: -3

A+BA

H: -3
B: -14*

2A+B

H: KND
B: -16~-15*

2[A+B]~SBH

H: KND
B: -4*

A+K

H: +2~+3
C: +4~+5
B: -10~-9

A+KA

H: +2~+3
B: -8~-7

A+K[A]~SCH

H: +8~+10
B: -2~+0

A+KAA

H: +5~+6
B: -8~-7

A+KA[A]~SSH

H: +1~+2
B: -1~+0

A+kAAB

H: Stun
B: -20~-19*

A+KA2A

H: +3~+4
C: KND
B: -9~-8*

A+KA2AA

H: KND
B: -19~-18*

A+KK

H: -1
C: KND
B: -16

a+kA

H: +10~+11
B: -10~-9

a+k[A]~SCH

H: +17~+18
B: -4~-3

a+kAA

H: +4~+6
B: -8~-7

a+kA[A]

H: +11
B: -3

a+kAAB

H: Stun
B: -20~-19*

a+kA2A

H: +3~+4
B: -9~-8*

a+kA2AA

H: KND
B: -19~-18*

a+kA:2A

H: +8~+10
C: KND
B: -15~-13*

a+kA:2AA

H: KND
B: -20~-19*

66A

H: KND
B: -14~-12

33A

H: KND
B: -13~-11

22A

H: KND
B: -18~-16

44A

H: Stun
B: +2~+3

44[A]~SRSH

H: Stun
B: -9~-8

66B~FC

H: KND
C: Stun
B: -20~-18*

88B

H: KND
B: -23~-22

88[ B ]~SRSH

H: KND
B: -3~-2

22B

H: KND
B: -22~-21

22[ B ]~SSH
H: KND
B: -3~-2

11B

H: -9~-7
C: Stun
B: -23~-21

11[ B ]
H: +8~+10
C: Stun
B: -6~-4

44B

H: Stun
B: -18~-16*

44[ B ]~SBH

H: Stun
B: +5~+7*

44BB

H: KND
B: -21~-19

44B[ B ]

H: KND
B: -10~-8

66K

H: -4
C: Stun
B: -16

66KA

H: KND
B: -7~-6

11K

H: KND
B: -12~-11

44K~BT FC

H: KND
B: x

66A+B

H: KND
B: -16~-14*

FC 2A+G_B+G

H: KND
B: -16*

SBH A

H: KND
B: -8~-6

SBH B

H: KND
B: -11~-9

SBH K

H: KND
B: -22~-20

SBH [K]

H: KND
B: -6

SBH A+B

H: KND
B: -12~-10*

SRSH A

H: -5~-4
B: -18~-17

SRSH [A]~SBH

H: +3~-4
B: -10~-9

SRSH B

H: Stun
B: -19~-18

SRSH K

H: Stun
B: -26~-25*

SRSH [K]

H: Stun
B: -9~-8*

SRSH A+B

H: KND
B: -10~-8*

SSH A

H: +0~+2
C: KND
B: -17~-15*

SSH [A]~SRSH

H: +1~+3
C: KND
B: -16~-14*

SSH AA

H: KND
B: -16~-14*

SSH A+B

H: Stun
B: -20~-19*

SSH K

H: KND
C: +16 (Stun)
B: -14~-13

SSH B

H: KND
B: -14~-13*

SSH [ B ]~SBH

H: KND
B: +0~+1*

SCH A

H: -5~-2
B: -5~-2

SCH B

H: Stun
B: -6~-4*

SCH [ B ]{1}

H: Stun
B: -3~-1*

SCH [ B ]{2}

H: KND
B: +4~+6*

SCH K~SCH

H: +2
B: -5

SCH KK

H: +2
B: -8

SCH kB

H: -14~-13
C: Stun
B: -23~-22*

SCH k[ B ]~SCH

H: +4~+5
C: Stun
B: -6~-5*

SCH A+B

H: KND
B: -8~-5
 
What's known of Siegfried's Frame Data is now posted in the wiki... Big thanks to Sacharja... (If I find a mistake or something new it will be corrected/ added)
Enjoy...
Damage and Soul Crush Data are in the next update, when I get around to it...
 
Ahh fuck.... As much as id like to have a smartarse answer your absolutely right :(. The guys I play against havent figured that out yet so SHH!
 
Haha, you should tell them how to punish so you can work on your mixup game =)

Hey does anyone know the difference between 3B and 33B besides the extra damage? I was wondering if there was a difference between either of them in terms of safety, tech crouch frames, speed, and/or tracking?

Any help would appreciated thanks!
 
2B is definetely not -2. 2~SBH K clashes with i18 Moves, so thats right. But 2B alone is more like -7~-8 or something, im too lazy too switch chars to test...
 
Jian: That's an interesting question... and I'm not sure. Most of the time I just see 33 as being particularly useful because it let's you use 3 out of crouch, which can be useful in situations where WS may not be the best option because of issues like range.
 
@Jian:
3B is i17, 33B is i19...
3B TC [6-14]
33B TC [8-19]
33B can be used from FC position and after stepping, but 3B is faster, the grd and hit data are identical...
Also 33B on a midair opponent doesn't knock them away as much as 3B...

About a+kA[A] and A+KA[A]:
It makes no sense to me... When I tested SSH K both times, it was i15 not i11... 4B+K transition is 20 frames and I hope you based it off of that Sacharja... SSH K is i35 after 4B+K, -20 means it's i15... This is what I had for a+kA[A]:
a+kA[A] - i15
G = +0~+3
H = +13~+16
CH = +13~+16
~SSH; NC

Also a+ka2A (slide input) fastest speed is i32...

@Docvizzo:
SRSH A is -20 at closest range...
 
@Zombiebear

Are you sure for 33B ?
For my part they are both the same speed and TC frame (I'm sure that 33B is not TC on lasts frame... it will be so wunderbar !)
But because of the "33" perform, it's seem to be very close to perform an i17 33B.

About SSH K, you're right, it's i15.

You may wrong about a+kA[A] frame : You wrote +16 on hit... so this does mean that a+kA[A], SSH K (i15) is NH combo... and, as far as I tested, this is not combo even in CH. (wich range ?)
For my part this is +14 (NH and CH) and +1 on block.
 
@ Pantocrator,
My mistake, 33B TC [8-16]...
a+kA[A], SSH K is not a NC... Reason being, a+kA[A] gives +15~+16 at tip range and SSH K can't connect, so you will most likely get +14 each time, SSH K will be i1 and can't be parried, it is a very good transition... Closest range is +13, right in Sig's face, that also makes it +0 on grd because of range dependancy... But you did it correctly to begin with, just make sure you test it at all ranges too...
NEW:
SCH A is wierd, it clashes with horizontals from i10 (Taki's A) to i18 (Algol's 6A) etc, it's wierd I don't like it...
 
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