How would you direct a SC game?

Alpha said:
(They've done it with SC5)
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SCV is theyr SF3
Time skip, we don't need all these old characters, cuz new generation blah blah

Now i hope next SC do a 180° move like Capcom did with SF4, and give me back a more soulcaliburish Soul Calibur

Capcom learned to not alienate fan base

Fuck all these new wannabecool young characters 4kidz, and give me back Zasa,Setsuka,Hwang,Rock,Talim,Taki, Mina. Hell even Yunsuck

Same way Capcom returned to Guile,Cammy,Zangief & Co (wich allowed after get also in SF4 the best of SF3 cast anyway)

Kinda same situation

SC3AE cast + Hilde/LeBello/Algol + BasicPat/Notdarkgaybiker4kidzZwei/Viola/Xiba

Want dat
 
Ryuhza said:
I feel as though this is significant to many of the things people took issue with in 5.

I'm not at all averse to new stages and modes, but kicking old characters to the curb, and significantly altering the mechanics (ala, adding Super Meter) is treading on thin ice, and I think at least one foot fell through in SoulCalibur 5.
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Yeah, I can see what you're getting at, but I'm just speculating based on what PS has done in SCV.
Gatsu said:
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Yeah, I agree with you there, I want the old characters back too. I feel that PS is going to continue the story and start bringing in new chars no matter how much we whine about it.

It's sad that some of the best movesets were cut. Hopefully they'll be in the next installment.

Atleast we get SC2 HD online.
 
Gatsu said:
SCV is theyr SF3
Time skip, we don't need all these old characters, cuz new generation blah blah

Now i hope next SC do a 180° move like Capcom did with SF4, and give me back a more soulcaliburish Soul Calibur

Capcom learned to not alienate fan base

Fuck all these new wannabecool young characters 4kidz, and give me back Zasa,Setsuka,Hwang,Rock,Talim,Taki, X, Li Long, Mina. Hell even Yunsuck

Same way Capcom returned to Guile,Cammy,Zangief & Co (wich allowed after get also in SF4 the best of SF3 cast anyway)

Kinda same situation

SC3AE cast + Hilde/LeBello/Algol + BasicPat/Notdarkgaybiker4kidzZwei/Viola/Xiba

Want dat
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This...ALL of this!
 
Alpha said:
1- Yeah, I agree with you there, I want the old characters back too. I feel that PS is going to continue the story and start bringing in new chars no matter how much we whine about it.

It's sad that some of the best movesets were cut. Hopefully they'll be in the next installment.

2- Atleast we get SC2 HD online.
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1- A lot depend on Daishi destiny with the new producer
If the new producer want can chose to drop the next generation thing and do a SF4 (and i hope so, even if i liked SCV)

2- Ironically many of the peoples that complain about SCV cuts will probably see SC2 with dat nostalgia glasses and forget that basically was'nt that rich too

As much hated, was SC3 to introduce many cool -many dropped in SCV- things
-Zasa
-Tira
-Setsuka
-Sieg/Night split into 2 characters
-Rock unique moveset
-Lizardman unique moveset
-Hwang return as official (3AE)

All these things happened after SC2
 
Gatsu said:
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Adding to this.

PS has a TON of styles and chars they haven't put in the game (Assuming the SC wiki is correct). I wouldn't be surprised if we saw new styles/chars in the future games. If I directed the game, I'd definitely let the team experiment with the styles.

As far as stages, I like and hate some from each game, but imo, SC3 had the best stages. SCV's looked pretty, but I definitely wasn't fond of two of the same stages.

A cool idea would be a non cannon SC tag game, but we all know that won't happen lol.[/quote]
 
Nobody say no to new styles
I will be disappointed with the contrary lol
Mine mains in SCV are Ezio(and usually hate guest), then Zwei(horrible design but cool original moveset), then Mitsu.
1 & 2 are new

What i don't like is cut old head to push into everyone throats new SC faces... specially if the new faces are meh like SCV ones
Daishi is a good guy for wat he have done for SC, but a thing i don't like about him as director is that seem only care about what is introduced by him, and not giving a flying fuck about what was SC before him
Maybe i'm wrong, but i've the impression he will not mind erase all SC was and replace with his vision of it

And if i have to chose between old SC and new SC style... i go with old SC

SF got his classic characters
Tekken too
VF is boring but loyal
Even DoA keep all his bewbs

No reason SC kill his own ones to give space a bunch of teens
Imho SC is still waaay more about have Mitsu, Sieg, Cervy,Ivy and so on... than Pat, LolPat, Pyrrah, LolPyrrah, BieberKilikJr and that girls that are'nt Taki and X

Icons are important for a cast, all other FG don't kill them to give space newcoolshit
I get you need it to catch some mommy money noob kid attention, but nobody said that to be done is necessary drop old fans

Again, SF is King and Father of FG, and he learned that years ago
5 years after SF4, USF4 is going to be released in Q1, and they're going to make good money with it... how? Adding 4 old characters to the cast + 1 new, lol
 
Gatsu said:
1- A lot depend on Daishi destiny with the new producer
If the new producer want can chose to drop the next generation thing and do a SF4 (and i hope so, even if i liked SCV)

2- Ironically many of the peoples that complain about SCV cuts will probably see SC2 with dat nostalgia glasses and forget that basically was'nt that rich too

As much hated, was SC3 to introduce many cool -many dropped in SCV- things
-Zasa
-Tira
-Setsuka
-Sieg/Night split into 2 characters
-Rock unique moveset
-Lizardman unique moveset
-Hwang return as official (3AE)

All these things happened after SC2
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I hope Hoshino, the new producer, makes SC6 like a SF4, and get some new characters like an Aztec Warrior, a warrior from Siam, and a female warrior from Africa.
 
Gatsu said:
Nobody say no to new styles
I will be disappointed with the contrary lol
Mine mains in SCV are Ezio(and usually hate guest), then Zwei(horrible design but cool original moveset), then Mitsu.
1 & 2 are new

What i don't like is cut old head to push into everyone throats new SC faces... specially if the new faces are meh like SCV ones
Daishi is a good guy for wat he have done for SC, but a thing i don't like about him as director is that seem only care about what is introduced by him, and not giving a flying fuck about what was SC before him
Maybe i'm wrong, but i've the impression he will not mind erase all SC was and replace with his vision of it

And if i have to chose between old SC and new SC style... i go with old SC

SF got his classic characters
Tekken too
VF is boring but loyal
Even DoA keep all his bewbs

No reason SC kill his own ones to give space a bunch of teens
Imho SC is still waaay more about have Mitsu, Sieg, Cervy,Ivy and so on... than Pat, LolPat, Pyrrah, LolPyrrah, BieberKilikJr and that girls that are'nt Taki and X

Icons are important for a cast, all other FG don't kill them to give space newcoolshit
I get you need it to catch some mommy money noob kid attention, but nobody said that to be done is necessary drop old fans

Again, SF is King and Father of FG, and he learned that years ago
5 years after SF4, USF4 is going to be released in Q1, and they're going to make good money with it... how? Adding 4 old characters to the cast + 1 new, lol
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You sir, have became my best friend.
 
Gatsu said:
Daishi is a good guy for wat he have done for SC, but a thing i don't like about him as director is that seem only care about what is introduced by him, and not giving a flying fuck about what was SC before him
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if this were true we'd still have setsuka.

[my shift keys aren't working so do forgive the lack of basic grammar here.]
 
Le_Bello said:
if this were true we'd still have setsuka.

[my shift keys aren't working so do forgive the lack of basic grammar here.]
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True
So we don't have Setsuka (great chara design), but we have the New Mainstream Young Hero Cooler Alternate Version using Setsuka style
Basically AlphaPat is supposed to have the ultimate style of SCV, is'nt kinda self blowjobbing and boosting my pov? :D
 
Gatsu said:
True
So we don't have Setsuka (great chara design), but we have the New Mainstream Young Hero Cooler Alternate Version using Setsuka style
Basically AlphaPat is supposed to have the ultimate style of SCV, is'nt kinda self blowjobbing and boosting my pov? :D
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Hmm, Gatsu, when you say mainstream you mean that the new characters too pop?
 
@LeBello
And as usual i'm extreme at explain simple concepts making it sound different

Keep the
"and not giving a flying fuck about what was SC before him"
concept but soften it into
"and don't seem so worried about keep classic stuff if he can trade it with his own"

Wich basically is a nicer version of the same thing
Sound that wrong watching SCV cast choices?
 
Ramus said:
Hmm, Gatsu, when you say mainstream you mean that the new characters too pop?
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I say that Pat is the new face of SCV

Wich is ok
Tbh basic Pat (with lynx and asshole Lannister attitude) is by far the best new char chara design, very SCish...

Creative problem is'nt him at all
Creative problem is that as variety also all others even without being pushed by "being the hero" are there just to be "generation change", all pushed on the wannabe cool/young side of the chara design

Where on the previous (3-4) entries you got big variety Hilde,LeBello,Algol,Setsuka,Zasalamel,Tira

Even without artistic background it's kinda easy spot how one group of new entries is different from the other
 
No, you are right.
I think is one of the things I found most amazing on Soul Calibur, they characters were they own persona.
Actually, in my humble opinion, Z.W.E.I covers for this, his personality is not of an anti-hero unlike what he looks to be.
 
Gatsu said:
Now i hope next SC do a 180° move like Capcom did with SF4, and give me back a more soulcaliburish Soul Calibur. Capcom learned to not alienate fan base
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They also need to have a standard and structure to what image they are trying to potray with their game, as hated as SC3 might have been, it at least knew what it was. SC5 just tried to add whatever it could just to compete with SF in a "see guys we can do it too, play our game!" type thing instead of trying to say "Oh yeah? this is soul calibur; people play us when they're bored with you." like they used to do. They aren't trying to prove their compitence or be the Tekken alternative they used to be but want to be commercial. I don't blame them for wanting to get some attention beyond it indie audience but how they did it to me just as said. Alienated its actual fans in faour of newbies that aren't growing into the series as we did through investing and choosing SC as its own entity.
I just dont like the changes the SC5 producer did by changing the prioroties and messing up the image SC was.
SC used to be a psudo-realistic medieval fighter like Tekken and DOA but with swords and culture... No flash, no fire balls, no crystal balls, no flying wolves, nothing but the basic swords and shields.
 
Gatsu said:
True
So we don't have Setsuka (great chara design), but we have the New Mainstream Young Hero Cooler Alternate Version using Setsuka style
Basically AlphaPat is supposed to have the ultimate style of SCV, is'nt kinda self blowjobbing and boosting my pov? :D
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You know what? You're right there.

Gatsu said:
@LeBello
And as usual i'm extreme at explain simple concepts making it sound different

Keep the
"and not giving a flying fuck about what was SC before him"
concept but soften it into
"and don't seem so worried about keep classic stuff if he can trade it with his own"

Wich basically is a nicer version of the same thing
Sound that wrong watching SCV cast choices?
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Nah man I got what you meant. It's ok to have new characters and heck, even remove older ones, as long as the newer ones make up for it and aren't just "Younger version of X".
 
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