ZDamned
The cake is a Lie!!!
You need to buffer the 6B8 into the very final frames of the attack, or be super fast about it immediatly after Ivy recovers.
Ivy Combos & Tech Traps discussion
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C4LAMITY
[08] Mercenary
If you find it hard you can do
> instead. It does the same damage but you cannot use a BE for an additional 5 points of damage afterwards.
Alan-ere
[09] Warrior
NH 22_88B BE BT 2B+K = 69-70 dmg
CH bK 8_9 A+B (B) = 36 dmg.
CH bK 8_9 A+B (B) = 36 dmg.
TheNoirEffect
[12] Conqueror
CH 88A ~ 66B BE (W!) ~ 2A+B ~ 1B BE ~ 6B8 BE ~ 6B+K = 115 Dmg [1.5 Meter]
FC 1B ~ 1B BE ~ 1B BE ~ 8A+B {B} = 93 Dmg [1 Meter]
44B B (W!) ~ 2A+B ~ 6B8 = 78 Dmg [Meterless]
44B B (W!) ~ 2A+B ~ 6B8 BE (W!) ~ 7B+K = 96 Dmg [0.5 Meter]
CH 2A+B ~ 1B BE ~ 1B BE ~ 6B8 BE (W!) ~ 7B+K ~ 6B8 BE (W!) ~ 2B+K ~ 66 ~ Bk = 160 Dmg [2 Meters]
6A+B (W!) ~ 8B+K ~ 6B8 BE ~ 7B+K = 141 Dmg [0.5 Meter]
CH 7B+K ~ 88B BE ~ G ~ Bk = 69 Dmg [0.5 Meter] not guaranteed but it looks cool.
6B8 or 6B8 BE is guaranteed after any CH Stinging Souls attack. A 9B+K follow-up also isn't guaranteed from 6B8 BE but is good if the person decides to back ukemi or just stays on the ground.
CH 7B+K OR CH 8B+K ~ 6{A} = 36 Dmg it's not high damaging but it pulls the opponent back in for mixup strats
FC 1B ~ 1B BE ~ 1B BE ~ 8A+B {B} = 93 Dmg [1 Meter]
44B B (W!) ~ 2A+B ~ 6B8 = 78 Dmg [Meterless]
44B B (W!) ~ 2A+B ~ 6B8 BE (W!) ~ 7B+K = 96 Dmg [0.5 Meter]
CH 2A+B ~ 1B BE ~ 1B BE ~ 6B8 BE (W!) ~ 7B+K ~ 6B8 BE (W!) ~ 2B+K ~ 66 ~ Bk = 160 Dmg [2 Meters]
6A+B (W!) ~ 8B+K ~ 6B8 BE ~ 7B+K = 141 Dmg [0.5 Meter]
CH 7B+K ~ 88B BE ~ G ~ Bk = 69 Dmg [0.5 Meter] not guaranteed but it looks cool.
6B8 or 6B8 BE is guaranteed after any CH Stinging Souls attack. A 9B+K follow-up also isn't guaranteed from 6B8 BE but is good if the person decides to back ukemi or just stays on the ground.
CH 7B+K OR CH 8B+K ~ 6{A} = 36 Dmg it's not high damaging but it pulls the opponent back in for mixup strats
K0rN_b4LL
[14] Master
Has anyone found ant decent tech traps yet? The ones in the guide are pretty much useless since you can avoid all of them by teching to the side.
Scitna
[09] Warrior
3K(full charge), 3b tech traps in all directions
Edit: been playing around with how to follow up a non-counter hit 3b, pretty much the best options are..
6k for about 65 damage total after the tech trap
neutral B for about 67 damage total after the tech trap
If you catch them with 3b while teching to the right, you can use A(hold) and the whip state second hit will also connect for about 73 damage after the tech trap.
sillycatsteven
[09] Warrior
6B8 is technically 6b8. ie, slide/fast input speed. i normally just do 698 with D-pad, making sure i hit B quiet fast after the 6.
K0rN_b4LL
[14] Master
tech trap-
CH 2A+B - B+K can be escaped by teching left. I don't know if they can roll out of the way or not.
CH 2A+B - B+K can be escaped by teching left. I don't know if they can roll out of the way or not.
DeathAndHealing
[08] Mercenary
Can you guys tell me if this is a valid tactic?
I've been using
A+B,A,Throw
and for when they start blocking low Ill do A+B,Throw. I also use it mainly when I get a 6+B+K.
Im really cheesing out with Ivy right now because Im not good with her and its been catching a lot of people, was just wondering if I should abandon this now or keep it in the trick box?
I've been using
A+B,A,Throw
and for when they start blocking low Ill do A+B,Throw. I also use it mainly when I get a 6+B+K.
Im really cheesing out with Ivy right now because Im not good with her and its been catching a lot of people, was just wondering if I should abandon this now or keep it in the trick box?
Sora
[11] Champion
It's basic, but valid. A+BA gives frame advantage, so nothing wrong with attempting a throw after.
A+B then throw, not so much. That first hit is not -as- safe nor good on frames. It's still good to throw out from time to time to be unpredictable, but not anymore than that.
Aurongroove
[08] Mercenary
Hey guys new to the notation so go easy. Found this neat little trick out in a few matches where I started forcing my opponent to block busy multi-hits (7/8/9 A+B, here and there, or 4 [A+B], B on wake up, or what have you) and then guard bursting
Poor Ivy needs all the help she can get this time round, and this works a treat:
When an opponant's guard burst gauge is red, the first hit of 44B,B,B always guard bursts on block and the rest of the chain is guaranteed
AND(even better):
the first hit of 44B+K bursts and the unblockable launcher is guaranteed (edit: though the first hit of this isn't guaranteed to break, so only use it if it's been red for a hit or two) .
so I've been using 7/8/9 A+B, or 4[A+B], B, in situations where the opponent can block, but surely MUST block, and 'punishing' with moves just slow enough to block, but not to counter ( B(hold) and 6B8/2 is handy for it),
Once the gauge is flashing red I use one of her launchers/stuns, but instead of doing the rest of the combo (1+k, 214+B for example) just don't do the 214+B and instead immediately begin:
44B,(Guard burst) B,B, 6B8 or 6B8 BE
OR
44[B+K](Guard bust), U!, 6B8, or 6B8 BE (with 6B8 BE, damage is about 125 plus whatever you got for the initial knock down/set up)
opponents can roll away from 1+K, so if someone could look into a stun/launch in which the opponent is forced to block on recovery and cannot evade, then the combo will be bulletproof.
potential awesomeness
Poor Ivy needs all the help she can get this time round, and this works a treat:
When an opponant's guard burst gauge is red, the first hit of 44B,B,B always guard bursts on block and the rest of the chain is guaranteed
AND(even better):
the first hit of 44B+K bursts and the unblockable launcher is guaranteed (edit: though the first hit of this isn't guaranteed to break, so only use it if it's been red for a hit or two) .
so I've been using 7/8/9 A+B, or 4[A+B], B, in situations where the opponent can block, but surely MUST block, and 'punishing' with moves just slow enough to block, but not to counter ( B(hold) and 6B8/2 is handy for it),
Once the gauge is flashing red I use one of her launchers/stuns, but instead of doing the rest of the combo (1+k, 214+B for example) just don't do the 214+B and instead immediately begin:
44B,(Guard burst) B,B, 6B8 or 6B8 BE
OR
44[B+K](Guard bust), U!, 6B8, or 6B8 BE (with 6B8 BE, damage is about 125 plus whatever you got for the initial knock down/set up)
opponents can roll away from 1+K, so if someone could look into a stun/launch in which the opponent is forced to block on recovery and cannot evade, then the combo will be bulletproof.
potential awesomeness
Paranormal_Oreo
[12] Conqueror
ONLY WITH ELYSIUM:
CH 22_88A. 66B BE(w!). 3B(w!). iFC 1, B. 6B9 BE. CE.
CH 22_88A. 66B BE(w!). 3B(w!). iFC 1, B. 6B9 BE. CE.
Paranormal_Oreo
[12] Conqueror
ONLY WITH ELYSIUM:
CH 22_88A. 66B BE(w!). 3B(w!). iFC 1, B. 6B9 BE. CE.
CH 22_88A. 66B BE(w!). 3B(w!). iFC 1, B. 6B9 BE. CE.
I think 3b>1b be x3>6b8 be works on guard break but very conditional. 1 you have to have 2 full bars 2 they need to be angled on a wall not straight on because if you are not right next to them on the initial 3b it will push them to far out for the 1b be. worth having as an option pulled it off a couple of times, but not sure if it is something to rely on because i think it only does 85
d3troitr3d2k
[08] Mercenary
Does anyone have a consistent followup for WR A+B,A? 2_3B+K works but they can tech away from it...
Sora
[11] Champion
Tried 9B?
d3troitr3d2k
[08] Mercenary
Didn't think of that...ill try it out...thanks
Sora
[11] Champion
WR 1B (near) - BT B - 68B
Catches all aerial control and is a lot easier to do than buffering 68B from G. Someone can try to test this out on their own, but I've had no problem hitting Algol with this every time.
Catches all aerial control and is a lot easier to do than buffering 68B from G. Someone can try to test this out on their own, but I've had no problem hitting Algol with this every time.