Lizardman - Frame Data - SC5

[Jaxel]

Contents

• Character Notations​
• Horizontal Attacks​
• Vertical Attacks​
• Kick Attacks​
• Simultaneous Press​
• 8-Way Run Moves​
• Edge Attacks​
• Throw Attacks​
• Special Stances​
• Sand Winger​

Aeon Calcos

Character Notations​

• SW = Sand Winger

Horizontal Attacks​

Attack	IMP	DMG	JG	GRD	HIT	CH	GB
Refrain Ax	13	12	-15	-7	+2	+2	(31)
			cancel
Refrain Ax	13	12,12	-13	-6	+6	+6	(21.5)
			NC / Jails (hit/block)
Razor Ax	17	12	-9	-4	+6	+6	(19)
Lumber Ax	16	22	-23	-14	+6	+6	(31)
			iRV[i16-i17] / Opp. FrS
Base Razor Ax	13	10	-11	-6	+8	+8	(31)
			TC[9-38] / ~FC
Sand Current	36	24	-26	-15	STN	STN	15
			TC[25-44]
Symplegades	18	22	-14	-7	STN	STN	16
			STN[14] / hRV[14-15]
Base Razor Ax	12	10	-11	-6	+8	+8	(31)
FC			TC[1-7] / ~FC
Desert Carrefour	15	16	-19	-12	-2	-2	(22)
WR
Desert Carrefour	15,46	16,26	-23	-16	STN	STN	9
WR			STN[12] / NC / Opp. FrC (block/hit) / Non-jailing (block) 83F total duration
Lope Side Ax	24	22*24*26	-13	-6	+8	+8	(31)
**			TJ[3-30] / Opp. ~BT (hit)
Rear Side Adze	15	14	-13	-6	+6	+6	(31)
BT
Rear Base Razor	15	12	-11	-6	+8	+8	(31)
BT			TC[10-40] / Opp. FrS / ~FC
Attack	IMP	DMG	JG	GRD	HIT	CH	GB

Vertical Attacks​

Attack	IMP	DMG	JG	GRD	HIT	CH	GB
Turnus Style Furious Drought	20	16	-23	-12	0	0	(19)
			cancel / Opp. FrS (hit)
Turnus Style Furious Drought	20	16,16	-27	-12	STN	STN	(10.5)
			NC / Non-jailing (block)
Turnus Style Furious Drought	20	16,16,30(53)	-29	-12	KND	KND	6
			NC / Opp. FrC (block) / Non-jailing (block)
Mezentius Style Twin Gravel	15	14	-15	-10	+2	+2	(19)
			Thrust
Mezentius Style Twin Gravel	15,38	14,14	-13	-8	+4	+4	(10.5)
			NC on standing opponent / Thrust / Non-jailing (block)
Rising Grit	19	32	-22	-14	LNC	LNC	12
			Untechable KND RO/W! capable
Sinker Sand Ax	16	16	-15	-8	+2	+2	(19)*15
			Opp. FrC (hit) / TC[18-45] / ~FC Only causes Guard crush when done WL
Mezentius Style Camel Blow	18	21	-23	-8	+6	STN	13
			TC[5-8] / Opp. FrS RO capable
Sand Gale Dart	14	16	-19	-7	+2	STN	(19)*15
			CH STN[16] / iRV[14-15] / Thrust Only causes Guard Crush when done from FC or WL
Sinker Sand Ax	15	16	-15	-8	+2	+2	(19)
FC			Opp. FrC (hit) / TC[17-44] / ~FC
Turnus Style Sand Geyser	21	22	-17	-13	LNC	LNC	12
WR			TC[1-21] Untechable KND Overhead launch RO capable
Lope Grudge Labrys	33	28*30*34	-17	-8	KND	KND	(19)
**			STJ[3-30] / Opp. FrC (block)
Rear Sand Ax	16	18	-13	-6	+4	+4	15
BT
Rear Base Ax	18	18	-15	-8	+2	+2	15
BT			~FC
Attack	IMP	DMG	JG	GRD	HIT	CH	GB

Kick Attacks​

Attack	IMP	DMG	JG	GRD	HIT	CH	GB
Grudge High Kick	13	14	-15	-8	+2	+2	(22)
			cancel
Grudge Front Kick	18	24	-20	-11	+3	+3	10~14
			Delayable (partial charge increases Guard Gauge damage) / Opp. FrS
Grudge Front Kick	45	60	-20	+15	KND	KND	6
			RO/W! Clean Hit: A
Grudge Side Kick	16	16	-15	-8	+2	+2	(31)
			Opp. FrS
Grudge Low Kick	15	12	-15	-14	-2	-2	(31)
			TC[17-44] / ~FC
Grudge Earth Stomp	22	18	-21	-18	-2	-2	(31)
			Opp. FrC (hit)
Mezentius Style Lightning Head Masher	15	26	-13	-8	+6	+6	16
			iRV[15-16] / Opp. FrS / Clean Hit: C
Ire Low Kick	14	12	-15	-14	-2	-2	(31)
FC			TC[14~]
Scale Raiser Kick	16	12	-18	-13	+5	STN	(19)
WR			TC[1-3] / CH STN[18] / Opp. FrS
Lope Ire Shoot	21	22	-15	-6	0	0	(31)
			TJ[3-27] / Opp. ~BT (hit)
Lope Ire Shoot	21	25*28	-15	-6	KND	KND	(31)
*			TJ[3-27] RO/W! capable
Rear Grudge High Kick	15	16	-15	-8	+2	+2	(22)
BT
Rear Grudge Low Kick	17	14	-17	-14	-2	-2	(31)
BT			Opp. FrS (hit) / ~FC
Attack	IMP	DMG	JG	GRD	HIT	CH	GB

Simultaneous Press​

Attack	IMP	DMG	JG	GRD	HIT	CH	GB
Mezentius Style Rocky Smash	30	50	-37	+3	KND	KND	7
			TJ[18-38] / Late STC RO/W! capable Clean Hit: A
Mezentius Style Sand Roll	88	80	-34		LNC	LNC	n/a
			STC[5-135] / Clean hit: C STN on grounded opponent cancel ~FDHT 70F duration when canceled
Rising Revenge ~ Sand Winger	29	28	+1	+11	STN	STN	9
(hit or guard)			TC[4-9] / TJ[10~] / -25 on guard when no SW attack performed / Opp. FrC (block) / Clean hit: C
Rising Revenge	29	28	-37	-25	STN	STN	9
(long distance)			TC[4-9] / TJ[10~] Opp. FrC (block) / Clean hit: C
Sand Revenger	25	36	-17	-10	+4	+4	11
			STC[6-23] / TJ[23~] Opp. FrS / Clean hit: C
Quick Sand Revenger	25	42	-41	-32	KND	KND	11
			STC[6-23] / TJ[23~] Clean hit: C / ~FDHT RO/W! capable
Rolling Revenge	18	20	-16	-7	KND	KND	15
BT			TC[5-49] / ~BT
Attack	IMP	DMG	JG	GRD	HIT	CH	GB

8-Way Run Moves​

Note: A 10 frame quickstep is performed before the attack when ***** 8-Way Run moves are input from neutral.

Attack	IMP	DMG	JG	GRD	HIT	CH	GB
Grit Draft	19	30	-19	-12	+3	+3	(19)
			Opp. FrS
Grit Draft	19	32	-17	-10	+5	+5	(19)
*			Opp. FrS
Double Ire Hatchet	20	14	-29	-22	-12	STN	(22)
*			TC[7-12] / Opp. FrS
Double Ire Hatchet	20	14,14	-22	-16	+2	STN	(16.5)
*			NC / TC[7-12] / Opp. FrS / Jails (hit/block) Delayable 2nd hit RO capable (CH only) 75F duration
Hunting Draft ~ Sand Winger	19	16	-35	-18	-12	-1	(22)
			TC[7-13] / Delayable Opp. FrS
Hunting Draft ~ Sand Winger	19	20	-35	-18	-12	-1	(22)
*			TC[7-13] / Delayable Opp. FrS
Hunting Draft ~ Sand Winger	49	30	-35	-14	+4	+4	8
**			TC[7-47] / Opp. FrS
Camilla Style Dune Riser ~ Sand Winger	23	34	-35	-21	LNC	LNC	9
			TJ / ~SW / Untechable KND RO capable
Mezentius Style Cannon Pelekys	26	36	-22	-14	SLNC	SLNC	10
*			TC[5-13] Overhead launch RO capable
Turnus Style Dune Smash	25	36	-21	-12	KND	KND	10
*			Opp. FrC (block)
Lower Labrys	26	16	-19	-14	+4	+4	(31)
*			STC / Opp. FrS (hit) ~FC
Turnus Style Severing Pelekys	30	18	-27	-21	LNC	LNC	9
Turnus Style Severing Pelekys	30	18,12(27)	-16	-9	KND	KND	6.33
			NC Untechable KND Non-jailing (block) RO capable
Turnus Style Severing Pelekys	30	18,12,25(43)	-28	+12	KND	KND	4.33
			NC Untechable KND Non-jailing (block) RO capable
Mezentius Style Grit Blast	16	42	-25	-16	KND	KND	13
			TC[6-17] / Clean Hit: C Longer KND "roll" on CH RO/W! capable
Mezentius Style Scale Basher	25	36	-27	-10	STN	STN	10
*			RO/W! capable -11 on hit without stun
Grudge Float Kick	20	18	-13	-6	+8	+8	13
*			TJ[9-28] / Opp. FrS
Mezentius Style Sinker Spin Kick	25	20	-26	-23	KND	KND	(22)
*			STC / Untechable KND / iRV[25-26]
Killing Bite	21	20	-23	-16	KND	KND	13
			Opp. FrC (block)
Sand Rage Myrmex	21	20,25	-23	-16	KND	KND	13
			against downed opponent (head side)
Turnus Style Screw Shot	24	40	-26	-13	KND	KND	9
			Thrust Hits * ground rolls RO/W! capable
Sand Drifter	21	26	-25	-22	KND	KND	(31)
RUN			TC[11~] / Untechable KND RO capable
Attack	IMP	DMG	JG	GRD	HIT	CH	GB

Edge Attacks​

Attack	IMP	DMG	JG	GRD	HIT	CH	GB
Sandland Battalion	15	18,10x4, 30(65)	-28	-8	LNC	LNC	5.16
:bA+B+K:	x6		NC / Thrust (all but last hit) Non-jailing (block) RO capable
Sandland Predator	18	30,30	-23	+2	LNC	LNC	12
:bA+B+K:			TC[5-55] / iRV[18-19] Overhead launch
Sanddrake Catapult ~ Sand Winger	40	15	+9		STN	STN	n/a
SW			~SW STN[26] -55~ on JG
Sanddrake Catapult ~ Sand Winger	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a
SW			~SW
Devourer of God	14	30,7,7, 7,10,10 (72)	-32	-25	KND	KND	10
	On hit x5		Invincible [12-14] TJ immediately after impact, then TC, then late TJ RO capable -41 when Ukemi JGed gRV[-16~25] jgRV[-23~32] 60F total duration (not on hit)
Attack	IMP	DMG	JG	GRD	HIT	CH	GB

Throw Attacks​

Attack	IMP	DMG	JG	GRD	HIT	CH	GB
Mezentius Style Sand Tomb	17	55*5(chip)	n/a	n/a	KND	KND	n/a
			break RO capable
Mezentius Style Santana Storm	17	50*5(chip)	n/a	n/a	KND	KND	n/a
			break
Mezentius Style Reptile Rumble	17	65*6(chip)	n/a	n/a	KND	KND	n/a
			break Untechable KND
Mezentius Style Scale Brusher	17	65*6(chip)	n/a	n/a	KND	KND	n/a
Left *			* break Untechable KND / ~BT
Mezentius Style Sadistic Rush Lift	17	60*6(chip)	n/a	n/a	KND	KND	n/a
Right *			* break Untechable KND RO capable
Mezentius Style Sand Bomb	17	70*7(chip)	n/a	n/a	KND	KND	n/a
Behind *			* break (Astaroth, Voldo, and Z.W.E.I. only) Untechable KND RO capable
Attack	IMP	DMG	JG	GRD	HIT	CH	GB

Special Stances​

Sand Winger​

Attack	IMP	DMG	JG	GRD	HIT	CH	GB
Sand Winger	n/a		n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a
			TJ[17-44] 27F startup before moves can be performed 55F total duration (no move performed)
Atomic Revenger	26	46	-48	-27	KND	KND	8
SW			TJ / STC / Opp. FrC (block) / Clean Hit: C
Attack	IMP	DMG	JG	GRD	HIT	CH	GB

 

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[notice]Additional properties located here.[/notice]

These are not currently integrated into the wiki, although I am looking into making it happen in the future.

 

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Something interesting about 1B BE came to my attention a little while ago. When you JG 1B BE, highs will whiff right through him. Earlier I had assumed that it has the same TC frames as 1B (F5-8), but apparently not--it's TC for the entire animation. Since 1B BE's total duration is 55 frames, because:
-23 on JG +5 recovery frames on Aeon -19 of opponent's recovery frames from JGing (as per the data provided by Noodalls)=-37, so 37 recovery frames
and
17 startup frames, F18 is first active frame, 2nd active frame is irrelevant here because it overlaps with recovery frames unless first active frame whiffs and 2nd lands

So F18+F37=55 total frames, proven empirically in training with these scenarios:
Aeon blocks Astaroth's 22B (-10 on block), whiffs 1B BE and guards. Astaroth 11A (i36+10F step) hits at F56 and can be blocked. Same setup into 11K (i35+10F step) causes 11K to hit at F55, which Aeon cannot block. And finally, to confirm that the TC window does indeed end on the final frame, I tried punishing it on JG (-23) with two different i23 highs, both of which were blocked. After rechecking to make sure it actually is -23 (it is), I deduced that Aeon was TCing the first active frame of both attacks and blocking the 2nd.

tl;dr: The total duration of a move is its impact frames+(-1)(JG frames - 14)
e.g. Standard K i13, -15 on JG:
13+(-1)(-15-14)
13+29
=42 total frames

As far as I've figured, this simple little method should work for any move in the game as long as it can be JGed.
EDIT: Except for some special cases like Hilde C3A, where the 2nd hit only comes out on hit/block. Or strings in general, for that matter.

 

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Corrected some errors in the impact frames of 8wayrun moves, including:
44B
33K
11B
44[A]
22A
as well as verifying all the others.

Also found out that 11K STCs under Sieg 66K. That's nice to know.

 

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Added guard "burst" values. These are values in the wiki that indicate the number of times it takes for a move to "break" the guard. This can be seen in-game as a special effect that occurs on the opponent's guard meter indicator that shows they've reached the breaking point.
These values are indicated as GB values in parenthesis.
For moves that have multiple GB values due to the jump/crouch guard burst values, they are notated as (n)*m, where (n) is the number of blocks required to put the opponent at the breaking point, and *m is the number of blocks required to break the opponent using the jump/crouch bug.

 

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Conferred the wiki with the frame data from this. Much of it was accurate but there were a few OBOEs that have been corrected.

 

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Update:

• Find end of TJ window for 8B+K
• Find STC and TJ window of SW K
• Verify 1B+K impact frame change i87 → i88
• Find impact frame for 2nd hit of AA (very difficult to test due to AA's 2nd hit having less range than the first)
• Find impact frames for 2nd and 3rd hits of BBB
• Find impact frame for 2nd hit of 22AB
• Find stance transition frames for 44A, 44[A], and 66B
• Find impact frames for 2nd and 3rd hits of 44BAA
• Find TJ and TC frames on CE (good fucking luck with this one)

 

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A note on what it means for a string to "jail":
"Jail" in the context of fighting games is a term adopted from Tekken. In its strictest definition, jailing refers to a property some strings have where, despite subsequent hits being high, they cannot be ducked if the previous hit was blocked. A relatable example would be Pyrrha's AA versus Astaroth's AA: hers jails, Astaroth's does not. However, one of the most common complaints I see regarding SCV is the necessity of memorizing canned countermeasures to strings, especially countermeasures that are counterintuitive. This is my justification for adopting a looser, inferred definition of jailing for the purpose of the notes. Generally, if it refers to a string in which a subsequent hit is high, jailing will refer to the opponent's inability to duck the high, as per the standard definition. In the context of vertical strings, however, I will be using it to describe whether a subsequent vertical hit can be avoided by 8wayrun, sidestep, or quickstep. The major flaw with this is that some formal clarity is lost from the definition, but I consider it a worthwhile compromise to facilitate the reader's ability to learn countermeasures to specific moves exclusively through information on the wiki. In the cases where this fails, such as a specific case of a string that is only steppable by certain characters, character-specific punishment guides located in their respective Soul Arenas can and should be consulted for further information.

Regarding redundancy of information:
Owing to the nature of the wiki's layout, it is desirable to maximize the density of information presented in the wiki's note sections for each move so as to avoid markup issues and the general unreadability that comes with verbosity. A large aspect of this is the extirpation of redundancy; however, I believe that it is an ancillary concern to the necessity of clarity in the information's presentation. It should not be necessary for a reader to have to consult a language specification to decipher the meaning of the notes, and due to the recency of my wikis' adoption of this standard, some redundancy has been conserved for the purpose of presenting new information in an intuitive way. These include:

Jails (hit/block) // Specifying that a string jails on hit for a natural combo is redundant with both the definition of Natural Combo and information regarding hit levels and forced standing states

Non-jailing // Redundant with the provision of positive jailing information; it can be inferred any string not specified as jailing is non-jailing. However, this is necessary until jailing information is comprehensively adopted into the wiki, because currently the absence of information regarding this property is not enough to imply the information of absence of this property.

Keep in mind that this is still in its baby steps so there may be inconsistencies as I start rolling it out. When in doubt, standard rules of inference apply, specifically:

• If a string is NC, it jails on hit
• If a string jails on block, there's a possibility it does not jail on JG
• If a string jails on JG, it will almost certainly jail on block
• If a string does not jail on block, then it almost certainly will not jail on JG

tl;dr: I'm adding more info on how to beat strings to the wikis. PM me if you have questions or concerns.

 

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Added that 33K without a stun (e.g. after landing the 33K → 33K tech trap) is -11 on hit.