Missing character discussion
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I hope SCVI would be the event of what had happen in the past 17 years, or they can make a game about what had happen to Cassandra and the journey of her in Astral choas. And put all focuse on her and make a whole new story, that would be good too.
Characters that I really miss is Setsuka, Cassandra, Talim, Zasalamel and Yun Song. I didn't really miss other characters more them these characters, problably because they have been in the series for long enough that I didn't really care if they didn't come back. And besides characters like xianghua or Taki already have replacement characters, Cassandra also have Pat to replace her but the reason I really would like her back is because I want to know what happen to her. And besides she is also one of the characters later in the series, so why not bring her and the others back?
darkwings13
[14] Master
For the topic about Ivy:
Actually, I believe Ivy is only living on borrowed time. She may have saved herself with her manufactured soul but it was far from completion when she used it. This is what it says from her SCIV profile. It's kinda confusing lol.
Ivy lost that deadly fight, and the man nearly consumed her soul entirely, but Ivy had one last chance. She had been searching for the means to fabricate a being that could wield the spirit sword. Ivy used the artificial soul that would have animated that being to save her own life instead, but the research had been incomplete. Death would come to her, sooner or later. Ivy took up the snake sword that was her other half. She had lost much of the soul that connected her to the weapon, but it still responded to her. Yes, she could fight with it. And the new soul she had created, even though mixed with Ivy's own cursed soul, remained pure.
It's kinda confusing lol. But the two most important things to note is that....
1)Ivy will die. She may not die of age, but she will die. How will that happen? I'm not sure. But it might be something related to the pure manufactured soul running out of energy to stay attached to her real soul or something.
2)Even though she's malfested, the manufactured soul is still pure. So it would seem that Ivy has somehow reached a perfect balance. This would imply that she could be able to take care of holy items and maybe even SC, without fear of getting hurt. She may not be at a spiritual level like Kilik or Talim but from SCV, we can see she can perform complicating rituals to revive SC by using the three sacred treasures.
*It could be because of her half pure soul, that she was able to defeat Cervy afterwards. Perhaps the purity helped her withstand his powers during their second fight or something. But who knows? :/
Actually, I believe Ivy is only living on borrowed time. She may have saved herself with her manufactured soul but it was far from completion when she used it. This is what it says from her SCIV profile. It's kinda confusing lol.
Ivy lost that deadly fight, and the man nearly consumed her soul entirely, but Ivy had one last chance. She had been searching for the means to fabricate a being that could wield the spirit sword. Ivy used the artificial soul that would have animated that being to save her own life instead, but the research had been incomplete. Death would come to her, sooner or later. Ivy took up the snake sword that was her other half. She had lost much of the soul that connected her to the weapon, but it still responded to her. Yes, she could fight with it. And the new soul she had created, even though mixed with Ivy's own cursed soul, remained pure.
It's kinda confusing lol. But the two most important things to note is that....
1)Ivy will die. She may not die of age, but she will die. How will that happen? I'm not sure. But it might be something related to the pure manufactured soul running out of energy to stay attached to her real soul or something.
2)Even though she's malfested, the manufactured soul is still pure. So it would seem that Ivy has somehow reached a perfect balance. This would imply that she could be able to take care of holy items and maybe even SC, without fear of getting hurt. She may not be at a spiritual level like Kilik or Talim but from SCV, we can see she can perform complicating rituals to revive SC by using the three sacred treasures.
*It could be because of her half pure soul, that she was able to defeat Cervy afterwards. Perhaps the purity helped her withstand his powers during their second fight or something. But who knows? :/
Talim? She is not in a spiritual level, she still dies just so u know, she is like Sophitia had a little special power in her body but she is not like edge master or Algol. She had those power because she was blessed by the god of wind, if the god of wind banded her, she might end up like Sophitia. Kilik is spiritual because he is the new edge master, but Talim, no. This is a really complicate topic, because just so u guys know even though these people's body are spiritual, that only means that they can live a long time, but it does not mean that they can"'t be kill. Algol's son is just like his father, but he still died. Unless u are nightmare, u can choose someone else to put ur soul in and never dies.
darkwings13
[14] Master
No.
1)In SCIII, during the process where Talim healed the boy at the watermill village, she absorbed the dark aura into her body to pass out to the wind. It wasn't working as it slowly accumulated in her body until she can't even hear the wind's voice anymore. This severely depressed her but she pushed on anyway, even knowing there was a chance she could die along with the kid.
But even without the wind, her compassion and determination helped her overcome the doubts and fears she had and she succeeded. It goes to show that even without the wind, she still has powers and is capable of purification.
*Quite possible that the people of her village has a unique bloodline that also enables them to communicate with the wind. Which means her abilities are also possible inherited since her father was a shaman and her grandmother is the village elder.
2)Sophitia didn't have special spiritual powers. All Hephy did was throw down some holy rocks that Rothion made into a holy weapon. Which wasn't even that amazing since it cracked when Cassy took it and visited Raphael's evil land. She just walked into that place and it cracked, without her even fighting. To add in, Sophi's body contained SE shards after her battle with Cervy and this taint passed on to Pyrrha and Patroklos.
NOTE:
SPIRITUAL POWERS DOESN'T EQUAL IMMORTALITY.
I never talked about the fact that Talim wasn't going to age or anything. I was talking about spiritual abilities. Talim can read the wind, sense things that are abnormal and purify. Kilik has the training to control the evil in his Kali-Yuga and purify as well. But I guess he lost control or something so that staff got passed on to Xiba, who must be learning about the spiritual arts as well. Ivy can perform rituals such as fusing her manufactured soul with herself and to revive SC using the 3 sacred treasures. Another person to note is Taki, who can exorcise demons and wield her Mekki-Maru. Zassy can use magic and and also perform rituals.
So I was/am NOT talking about AGE, I'm talking about spiritual ABILITIES.
*Algol died and he came back because his will to return or something and since he wielded SE and created SC in the past, their powers sort of revived him. He's not even truly alive. He had to wait in the dumb tower of his in SCIV for SE and SC. With the swords, then he can truly be revived.
And Algol's son was nothing like his father. He couldn't wield SE and died for it.
I get what u mean, well our definition of spiritual is different. Your definition of spiritual is people that have special power, but my definition of spiritual is people that won't die in the matter of Age, that's what I meant spiritual, people like Edge master or Algol won't die because of age, but they could die by getting killed ( a lot of people think no one can kill the edge master, but actually he can be killed it's just he is to powerful that no one can kill him ) even Algol can die, but he had the ability to come back to life as long as SC or SE is still there. People that are spiritual can die, it's just some are powerful that people can't kill them.
jtdam09
[13] Hero
Neither of them really classify as spiritual. Spiritual does relate to mysticism, and self (Talim, Ivy, and Kilik qualify), but story-wise, characters not aging and immortality (all of them are mortal, except Elysium) doesn't mean they are "spiritual".
Reincarnation, however, is an exception, but if we go based on "real life", reincarnation was merely a spiritual concept, just like "Heaven and Hell", and the "afterlife". One can still be killed, but reincarnate into anything, or anyone. In case of Zasalamel, it's considered to be a curse, instead of a concept integrated into Zasalamel's mind, but that can be debatable. Too bad no one cares to do so.
Only few care about story just as much as they care about gameplay. It's a game, so....things are subject to change anyways *cough*characters being replaced*cough*.
hwang24
[10] Knight
Wide and open forum discussions. I like how this thread is going. It's almost like reading a sports newspaper article.
Dance, subjects, DANCE!!
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Sorry
[10] Knight
I would buy that game. My love for Cassy knows no bounds!
/cheese
ShaolinTiger86
[13] Hero
Don't let Lang see this. He's crazy over Cassandra.
Pyrrus
[14] Master
So once her fake soul runs out of juice, she'll die? :O If that's how it works, how much juice energy is left in it?
Daaamn girl ! Your like a SC expert :D
ShaolinTiger86
[13] Hero
I doubt that Ivy's fake soul would run out but then again, since it's artificial, and is kinda like a battery to keep her going, I wonder what's going to happen with her.
darkwings13
[14] Master
Thank you (>-^.^-)
As for Ivy, yea. It was the one thing that saved her life when Cervy Beards devoured half her soul so if that thing can no longer sustain her, she'll have to make another one to keep herself alive. As for how long it'll last, I'm not sure. It would make sense if it hindered her fighting ability.
When she attached that 'pure soul' she lost abit of connection with her Valentine. It still responded to her but it seems to imply that it took more effort. Valentine and Ivy both share the same cursed powers and that pure soul probably interfered with their connection to some extent. So the more she pushes herself and exerts herself, the quicker the soul would burn out as she's trying to use a cursed weapon, while that artificial soul was made to wield SC so there would be conflict. (This would be really funny if it tied in with her being more simpler in SCV lol).
*It would also give more meaning to her quote "For better or worse, this sword is my fate." If you get what I mean (>O.O)
Haha, he is fucking crazy over Cassy, I am one of her fans too but I am not that crazy as him, cause I also like other characters such as Amy and Setsuka, how about u? Which character do u like?
ShaolinTiger86
[13] Hero
I'm a Xianghua, Setsuka, Mi-Na, Ivy and Taki guy but you don't see me going over board about it like Lang does.
It seems like u like the Asian characters more, well I like the European characters more, but some of them are tragedies which makes me pretty sad.
jtdam09
[13] Hero
DevilsDisguise
[13] Hero
If Talim were still alive she could just bring back everyone from the dead like she did for Algol. There. Roster Fixed. (Even if the characters were just reanimations of their former selves it would give them a reason not to age physically but mature to the culture of the times as Ivy and Aeon do. Thus give Talim the most importance to the current plot of the game. If Soul calibur is the villain then Im sure they'd need everyone to stop it. The same would go for the evil characters with Zasalamel.)