PSN DOWN WTF?!1

yes but when this is over, i can go back to playing. you will still be jumping up and down trying to dash.

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DIME, as i type this, i am watching a bigfoot documentary on netflix.
 
I'll be damned.. I tried logging into Netflix last night but to no avail.

But I googled it just now, and you're right. Thank God, I can watch a movie for the first time in a month besides Grandma's Boy.
 
yes but when this is over, i can go back to playing. you will still be jumping up and down trying to dash.

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DIME, as i type this, i am watching a bigfoot documentary on netflix.
You know what I got to say to that.....
ASS DANCE! ASS DANCE! ASS DANCE!
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You know what I got to say to that.....
ASS DANCE! ASS DANCE! ASS DANCE!
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the "good cause" is about civil rights and privacy protection in the united states. it isn't about linux or piracy at all. the only reason anon is doing this is to protect american PS3 owners who are at risk of having their IP addresses forced by law into the hands of sony, who intends to bring legal action against many many people.

basically sony is trying to force a webhost company to hand over private information so that they can sue people. fuck that. godspeed, anon.
I think it is related to piracy. They want to protect people who were involved in a criminal activity. We all know that Sony won't sue any people who just browsed through GeoHot's website (millions of people), only the ones who were involved in jailbreak construction. Also, they aren't doing it against the law, the court gave Sony permission to collect the IPs.
 
In other news Ford announced that it will prosecute any owner found customising their vehicle.
Unapproved hotrodding and body kits being the most serious crime, Ford has stated that it will even be going as far as seeking court orders to reveal the personal details of anyone who has been browsing auto meet-ups or purchased a pair of furry dice.
u c wat i did thar.

lol
 
I think it is related to piracy. They want to protect people who were involved in a criminal activity. We all know that Sony won't sue any people who just browsed through GeoHot's website (millions of people), only the ones who were involved in jailbreak construction. Also, they aren't doing it against the law, the court gave Sony permission to collect the IPs.

again, it is a privacy thing, not piracy. really, only americans could be affected. the way our court system here works is that they always go by previous precedents. if sony is able to get a court order to obtain IP addresses, then other media companies will likely be able to do the same from sites like isohunt.com and thepiratebay. in a way this does loop back to piracy, but not directly.

there is also a very real threat that if they succeed, sony will bring legal action against people they trace by IP. the idea is that no private company should ever be able to monitor our web browsing, or gain access to records of it. it opens the doorway to specifically targeted advertising, embarrassing exposures of public figure heads and many other things that are violations of our privacy rights.

it bothers me that everyone thinks it is all about sony not wanting us to play burned games. it is a first and fourth amendment issue. anon is acting to protect our rights. they are not concerned with linux or ISOs or PSN or any of that shit. they are concerned with corporations gaining access to and ability to search our browsing history.
 
another problem with sony suing, is geohotz(dude who cracked the ps3) also got sued by apple when he cracked the Iphone.They tried to get the IPs of everyone who jail broke it. apple lost the case...IDK it seems like they are ignoring the previous precedent, imo no way will sony win the case
 
Not only is Lobo right but also its also a matter of ownership. To what extent is a product you buy strictly your own, to do with it as you desire. The PS3 originally came with the ability to run foreign code in it. Much like a computer. So much so that Sony advertised this ability when it first came out. They later updated the PS3 to block many such a features, which brings out the question who is Sony to tell me what I can or can-not do with a product that I buy?. If Microsoft would have told me I cant run Ubuntu on my PC I would have told them to fuck off in the same fashion.

That being said I don't think they tackled this the right way. They are bringing a lot of negative light on themselves by hurting 70+ million PSN subscribers out there as opposed to just corporate Sony.

They do have my support for the most part. Specially regarding the acquisition of IP addresses of the people who visited GeoHotz's website, Youtube and Myspace which is absolutely ridiculous.
 
I thought the fact that people get traced by IP for their illegal activities, be it downloading pirated stuff or even child pornography is very common across the world.

Warui_ne - Sony already reached settlement with Geohot. He agreed that he will not resume hacking PS3 nor any other Sony's devices.
 
Thing is Ring, in no way is visiting his websites Illegal. Shit I myself have been on his blog and YouTube page before because I admired the fact that at 17 he was the first person to jail-break the Iphone. Even downloading his stuff isn't illegal. Actually his method of jail-breaking the PS3 is said to be very un-friendly regarding Piracy because he is against it himself.
 
Thing is Ring, in no way is visiting his websites Illegal. Shit I myself have been on his blog and YouTube page before because I admired the fact that at 17 he was the first person to jail-break the Iphone. Even downloading his stuff isn't illegal. Actually his method of jail-breaking the PS3 is said to be very un-friendly regarding Piracy because he is against it himself.
Yeah, I know that visiting his website wasn't illegal. I was referring to the statement that no one should be able to monitor our web browsing. I actually wonder myself how they managed to convince the judge to get persmission to collect the IPs.

Seems like the is no easy solution to this. Protecting privacy will make people feel safe behind the screen and piracy (And worse) will go on forever, at the same time, monitoring our every move on the internet seems just as bad.
 
So it's finally confirmed ;)



The good cause being piracy? Because we all know if will eventually lead to it. We shouldn't support piracy because it hits mostly developers and in the end, the players. All this being due to lesser software sales. This will definitely not benefit us in the long run =/
I think it is related to piracy. They want to protect people who were involved in a criminal activity. We all know that Sony won't sue any people who just browsed through GeoHot's website (millions of people), only the ones who were involved in jailbreak construction. Also, they aren't doing it against the law, the court gave Sony permission to collect the IPs.
the problem is that piracy will always exist though, and while i can understand wanting to protect against piracy, they have no right to infringe on our own rights to do so. while something like this COULD be used for piracy, not every individual is like that. should we disable a computer's ability to play games simply because someone creates a program/hack that allows them to download/run/crack video games that they pirated? should streaming video players become illegal simply because you can upload copyrighted video to them? why should we lose access to things that are there to enrich our lives simply because they CAN be used for doing illegal things.

the thing is you cant just try to control/monitor a persons activity like that. its like for someone to say "yea you live in a country that has freedom of speech. you can say anything you like" and then adding on a condition like "if you say something i don't like, you will be imprisoned or persecuted for your beliefs."

trying to stop something like piracy through force, monitoring and limiting certain features of a product will never work. there needs to be a middle ground that convinces consumers to legally purchase their content, something more persuasive and less of a threat. im not too terribly good at getting across what im trying to say here, but hopefully you understand. threatening people and taking away features only makes them lash out, only makes them angry, and only persists to make the problem worse. in turn by fighting piracy so hard the way sony does, they're actually giving piracy the spotlight, which in turn simply steers people in a direction that informs them about piracy and on how to do it. of course there will also always be honest individuals who will pay for their products. is there a solution to things? yes, but i cant tell you what that is. piracy is inevitable, all you can do is simply try to reduce the amount of piracy that happens, and this isnt the way to do it.
 
Well, he did violate the law by creating that device, and the device itself was meant to do one thing, which we all know. Kind of like serial/key generators for pirated programs, they "could" be used for piracy but overall they are illegal because the DMCA prohibits it.

The way I understand it, Sony had the right to do what they did. Somone violated the law by hacking their hardware, they had the right to sue him and defend their business. They profit from the fact that PS3 hasn't been "pirated" yet (to a large extent anyways) I also read more about the IP collecting and it appears they did that to prove that he distributed the hack and to resolve the issue of where to sue him and they had no intention of suing people who visited his website or downloaded jailbreak, only the ones who will redistribute it.
 
So after realizng that I can't get any online games in I decided to learn how to do the "running man" and I can now do said dance. Next up I get a rope and hang myself... a pinata.
 
again, it is a privacy thing, not piracy. really, only americans could be affected. the way our court system here works is that they always go by previous precedents. if sony is able to get a court order to obtain IP addresses, then other media companies will likely be able to do the same from sites like isohunt.com and thepiratebay. in a way this does loop back to piracy, but not directly.

there is also a very real threat that if they succeed, sony will bring legal action against people they trace by IP. the idea is that no private company should ever be able to monitor our web browsing, or gain access to records of it. it opens the doorway to specifically targeted advertising, embarrassing exposures of public figure heads and many other things that are violations of our privacy rights.

it bothers me that everyone thinks it is all about sony not wanting us to play burned games. it is a first and fourth amendment issue. anon is acting to protect our rights. they are not concerned with linux or ISOs or PSN or any of that shit. they are concerned with corporations gaining access to and ability to search our browsing history.

If anything, Anon should be attacking the US court then, since it's obviously their decision whether Sony gets access to the IPs or not. Surely it's not illegal to sue and ask for something. Especially not in the US, the most sue-happy people of all.

Sony hasn't done anything illegal. Anon has. Their public threats and skewed views of freedom are comparable to terrorists. Not something I'd be proud of supporting.
 
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