PSN DOWN WTF?!1

so they may or may not have gotten my financial info? *Sigh* Least is not that hard to transfer all my cash to a diff account. Sucks i have to get a new card and wait a week for it. :\
 
Any ETA on this BS? like... do they even KNOW how long this crap will take to get back up? Like, i know they are re-building PSN security from the ground up, but this is getting RIDICULOUS !~!~!
 
I'm kind of a bit more concerned about my info being compromised. I dunno...something about a groups of hackers that likes to quote nerd meme's and techno sci-fi AND has the power to do what they just did is a bit more concerning. All those plots involving hackers to fuck the "system" up or some shit is not something I tend to worry about givin the lack of practicality and planning needed to do so...but you never expect this brand of hackers to ever do something this big...and I'm actually legitly wondering...will they do some crazy movie plot scheme with this?!? I mean activists will do things to make a point and thus dramatic scenarios are a theme. Is there something really fucked up they can do with all that info that got compromised?

The news is so back and forth is Anonymous to blame or is it a faction of Anonymous, or someone else?
 
IvyFanboy said:
I'm kind of a bit more concerned about my info being compromised. I dunno...something about a groups of hackers that likes to quote nerd meme's and techno sci-fi AND has the power to do what they just did is a bit more concerning. All those plots involving hackers to fuck the "system" up or some shit is not something I tend to worry about givin the lack of practicality and planning needed to do so...but you never expect this brand of hackers to ever do something this big...and I'm actually legitly wondering...will they do some crazy movie plot scheme with this?!? I mean activists will do things to make a point and thus dramatic scenarios are a theme. Is there something really fucked up they can do with all that info that got compromised?

The news is so back and forth is Anonymous to blame or is it a faction of Anonymous, or someone else?
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I wouldn't be surprised if people within anonymous had a hand in it and they backed off so quickly because they realized this was big trouble. I don't think it was an organized thing though, mostly they just run scripts, no real hacking. This was supposedly a genuine hack. That apparently downloaded for three whole days before they realized it was going on. It might just be some other geo-hot activist or somebody looking to use geohot activism as a cover or someone who knew that we'd think that they'ed use geo hot activism as a cover and blah blah blah.

It could even be that there was no hack at all and this is some bullshit that resulted from trying to put Steam on PSN or something and blaming hackers is a convenient way for sony to cover their asses and simultaneously launch some anti-anon pr. Lord knows what it really is. It could be a million things. At this time, just be on the safe side and call your bank.

They did an interesting thing though on the topic of dramatic scenarios in a british newspaper. Some guy had noted that if they took seven cents from every account they'd wind up with something like 53 million dollars. Provided they could do that that would be no chump change.
 
i'd donate 7 cents to someone for bringing down sony. :D

i think john hit it in his second paragraph. if Anon cared about your credit card info, they could get it a million different ways. call me a conspiracy theorist, but i believe that sony simply got brought down by a DDoS from Anon and is redoing their security and saying info may be compromised as a way to sway the public support into their favor in spite of some massive doucher legal bullshit they are trying to pull.
 
Do you really think that Lobo? Having your customers trust you with their information seems like a more important issue.
 
xbox live means, buying a system, controllers, and rebuying all my games that are only really used for online multiplayer. I would love to own both but not in a spot to do it at the moment.
 
It's just a matter of time before they breach the new security. No one is safe in teh interwebs.

Also Lobo nice theory. It's definitely easier to swallow than the fact that 70 mln people lost their privacy ;p
 
They've hired some external security professionals to look into the issue anyway, so hopefully they can give the new PSN a better security framework. As for the cause of the issues, it could lie with:

a) anonymous, but after having talked to them on IRC, that seems unlikely,

b) the Rebug CFW development which allowed mapping from the SP-INT ( Dev servers) to the retail unit servers ( though this was largely limited to select titles, usually Call.of...), though using Rebug it is true that CC verifications were skipped ( as confirmed by Math in a tweet ,http://twitter.com/#!/mathieulh),

C) it was discovered a few weeks ago that each time the ps3 boots and connects to the PSN, it sends data to sony in plaintext ( ie not encrypted, http://pastie.org/private/97oth9v5tspkiztwwdmnga ) so, its likely that gave hackers an idea or two... in light of some research done by SKFU ( http://www.ps3hax.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/psnlog.jpg) , it is suggested that the vulnerability analysis began perhaps in february ( agreed by http://www.ps3hax.net/2011/04/psn-and-credit-card-info-stolen-in-early-feburary/ )... it seems that [DNS] Canonical: a65.197.244.172.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com Numerical: 65.197.244.172 (aka psn) needs to be looked into.

I'm hoping that it isn't a big Sony conspiracy, but im thinking that Sony wouldn't bring this sort of attention on themselves so quickly. Anyways, i'll see you will my 1A happy sophitia in 1 bar ranked when its back online huh, seems like a great way to welcome a new PSN.
 
MS is large about the security(for 60 bones a year, it damn well better) but don't sit there thinking its all smiles. XBL can go down too(it has before) and I know individual accounts can be hacked. Prime examples when MajorNelson and the head of XBL security(yeah, LOL) had their accounts hacked. Of course, issue was swiftly resolved and unless you were paying attention to a gaming news site(or twitter/facebook feed) you never heard about it. Just last night, all modded/hacked Xbox 360s strangely were unbanned for a short time and MW2 players are dealing with ppl phishing in Matchmaking.

So no. XBL doesn't help me sleep better at night either, even if I am a huge supporter of the Xbox console.
Now onto Sony. Im outraged and hella pissed that all this happened, simply from Sony being arrogant douches about their console being(and making sure that it was) unhackable and now, not only has the front door of PS3 been kicked in. The beloved Network has been fucked with ALL AS A RESULT, THANK YOU SONY! As a consumer, I could give a flying McFuck about downtime, maintenance, or hell even rolling out new security. But learning 9 days in, that my personal info may be obtained through this, all because I figured I was on something secure and trustworthy, for convenience sake...FUCK! Sony has lost me as a customer, once and for all. 9 fucking days in, christ.
 
Desperate economic times calls for desperate measures. The hackers are probably out to get money from all the accounts or settle a deal with Sony. i mean if they could hack this security system, whats stop them from hacking a new one?
 
Anon has hacked paypal in the past...did they steal from people? nope. everyone acts as if sony failed big time here...the truth is that ANY company that takes credit cards is just as vulnerable. in all honestly i still think this is just being made into big news because sony wants to draw public sympathy and create a sideshow so that we don't see what is really going on. nobody is getting anything robbed from them. nobody needs to cancel their cards and boycott using them online.

all this talk about Anon and hacking and credit cards and everyone has forgotten what this was about in the first place, which is a major violation of our 4th amendment rights to privacy by a foreign corporation, or any corporation for that matter. this is about private, non government entities gaining access to our browsing history. lets not forget that, or sony has succeeded, and americans have lost big time.

quick politics 101 lesson: open your fucking eyes.
 
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