Macro
[09] Warrior
In this thread you will see Raphaels best pokes and will discuss y the the ones we picked are so good.
Raphaels important pokes
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Macro
[09] Warrior
Is good because it is safe and it can be used kind of like Astaroths so its good for pressure and it can be used for frame traps a basic frame trap would be into well that's it for me if you guy's no anything more about go ahead and post it.
FenrisZero
[13] Hero
His best poke is 6GG at the character select.
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Party Wolf
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4B+K hands down
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WuHT
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wrB, wrA and 2K should all have serious looks at.
His other pokes seem less effective compared to SC4
His other pokes seem less effective compared to SC4
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Macro
[09] Warrior
Ya im just doing one poke at a time so i can see what everyone say about all the pokes
but thanks.
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Macro
[09] Warrior
Well i guess we can move on to the next poke wr
wr is good for low punishing moves that are negative 13 to 16 so you can punish them after blocking.
It is also good for a mix up between wr and at the end of a match.
wr can also be good in frame traps like on hit into wr well that's all i can think of but if you guy's no anything else just post it.
wr
is good for low punishing moves that are negative 13 to 16 so you can punish them after blocking.It is also good for a mix up between wr
and at the end of a match.wr
can also be good in frame traps like on hit into wr well that's all i can think of but if you guy's no anything else just post it.Well i guess we can move on to the next poke wr
wr
It is also good for a mix up between wr
wr
According to Mandritti, one should avoid using wrB though it is i13, +4 on hit, and completely safe. I agree because it is vulnerable to step and doesn't give much on hit. Even when you are punishing with it, rethink it. If you a block a low that is -13, why not just do a 2A (if in range) which has a massive +8 with a great setup for a mid/throw mixup? Furthermore, Raph has other options such as FCB, 6BB, and 6K to punish from -13 to -16 which can be done from crouch.
2A makes many options un-interruptable, not just wrB. FC3B, for example, after 2A has a better hit box and damage with stun The only situation where wrB is "useful" is after 2K in the Astaroth MU. 2K makes wrB i15 but Astaroth basically can't beat it.
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Macro
[09] Warrior
Wow thanks i never
Thought about it like that and thanks for the information.
WR B has the benefit of being unsteppable and uninterruptable after a 2A hit (so does 2A itself, but it has less range). I think it catches back step too. Your opponent is forced to block it.
No problem. And I meant i15, not -15 for wrB. My bad.
Thanks. I forgot about this.
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Macro
[09] Warrior
Well i think since we are on the topic of that it should be the next move will do.
Is great for pressure and for frame traps
and it is sometimes good for interrupting natural combos.
And like Fendante was saying is also good for punishing if in range because you get +8 on hit.
And on hit has some fb like fc after like they were saying. Is also good after moves like and well that's all for me.
that it should be the next move will do. Is great for pressure and for frame trapsand it is sometimes good for interrupting natural combos.
And like Fendante was saying
is also good for punishing if in range because you get +8 on hit.And
on hit has some fb like fc after like they were saying. Is also good after moves like and well that's all for me.- Thread starter
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Macro
[09] Warrior
O wow i new i forgot something i feel stupid.
No hard feelings man. We're here to help each other in this SA :)
Btw what are your opinions on AB? It lost the tracking and +2 from SC4 but I still throw it out when they don't expect a low poke from time to time and are more to Raph's strong side.
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Macro
[09] Warrior
So he did lose his tracking on Ab ok i see.Sorry guy's i have bin a bit busy as of late because i'm moving but thanks for all the help on the thread.
Kvasir
[10] Knight
You people are crazy. Raph still has tons of good pokes. 6BB is amazing, 2K is 2K, 2A is 2A, 2B is exceptional, 3A is great, 6K is useful, B works well, aB is alright, and 3B is still stupid fast for it's range.
Real_Bojack
[10] Knight
AB is a better poke than any one here is talking about.
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Macro
[09] Warrior
Explain yourself Bojack.
Real_Bojack
[10] Knight
It can stop step to degree, doesn't seem to have the range issues of AA that cause the 2nd A of AA to whiff even though the first hit hit, the B can actually stop a TC, they DO have to block L so until they block it proficiently it's free damage, it's even on hit, relatively safe on block, AFAIK they're jailed into blocking the L (it may be jGable or GI'able I dunno), and after you do it a bit you can then do empty A's and give yourself some flexibility afterwards due to the inherent speed of the foot poke forcing them to react, it's annoying.
Basically, in many situations you can throw it out and be fairly safe in the grand scheme of things and since it's even on hit you can take the mental advantage to give yourself some breathing room or set up for GI baits. It's not an abusable move but used off and on again you can get some mileage out of the move. I think it's nearly a life save vs. aPat and O.pyszzzha since every God damn move they do is TC, the B will often sometimes tag them in the nick of time.
Basically, mixing up with A, AA, and AB for ranging should be a fundamental part of every Raph's gameplan.