T6BR tier list

spongebob said:
hey thnx a lot for that. The thread also helped me out a lot ill have to try that.

Random question if im holding back to guard wud i be able to do anything like spam a grab break whilst guarding like you do in sc4? I have no idea how to see what hand grabs u they all look the same to me. Add sum input lag and throw breaking might as well be impossible on reaction to me online
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no problem.

if you're holding back to block, any button you press will have the "back-and" modifier. so holding back and spamming 1 to break a 1 grab will give you b+1. so it doesn't work like SC4 at all in this regard, but you might get lucky just the same.

at first it's really tough to tell which grab is which. but, with a bit of time, you can train yourself to tell them apart: go into practice mode -> defensive training, and select both the 1+3 and 2+4 grabs. the computer will randomly choose between them. once you feel more comfortable with 1 and 2 breaks (on both 1P and 2P sides), add a 1+2 break into the mix (these are usually "command throws", meaning you have to enter a more complicated command, like say ff+1+2 or hcb, f+1+2). not every character has command throws, so i'd suggest using Paul as a dummy-- he can take it.

most characters have preferred grabs just like in SC, but instead of RO being a factor, it's wall positioning, oki, or damage. for instance, some grabs, when broken, will have both characters switch sides, so if their back is to the wall, they'll be more likely to try that one since if it hits, yay damage, if not, yay better positioning. so keep that in mind. additionally, lower-level players tend to prefer one over the other, also like SC ;)

unless you have an amazing connection with your opponent, it's quite hard to break grabs online. this was one of the issues that sparked the Online Etiquette train of thought on TZ. there's a thread about it in the DR Online forum.
 
Hey here's some online etiquette, stop playing online. X_X

Everything else there is correct, technically there's a mixup on throws based on positioning/damage/oki. However since the top players just practice throw breaks on seeing the arms all day, throws lose some of their effectiveness at higher levels, unlike in Soul Calibur where they're still very useful. It's done almost entirely on reaction time at that level, not based on any mindgame like in Calibur. The most common grabs you'll see at higher levels are command grabs that just have a tiny break window, something like Julia's mad axes.
 
PANDA said:
you mean the special mid? or the throw?

how is that abusable? lol
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oh ugh i meant the sweeping low that leads to a rolling combo followed by a kick and tail poke. I think its b/d+3 my tekken notations still very poor atm lol.

Anyway few things i want to say:

I agree with jaxel. The lag often isn't that much worse than SC but its the strict timing in juggles etc that seems to make it look worse. In SCIV since i played Algol there wasnt really much hard inputs or strict timing for anything.

In Tekken im playing Bob atm. His juggles arnt exactly hard but online so many things don't hit.

CH df2 d+2,3, 2, uf+1+2,1 B! dash df+1,b+1+2

Even on a 4 ill hit the d+2,3 that d2 will register but the 3 never will lol. Even if it does its hard to finish of the juggle. Then realising this ill try simplifying it maying doing two jabs instead of d23. Then the uf+1+2 comes out too late lol. I really miss the buffering in SCIV :(

I know i shud be expecting this for online but its the only part of tekken thats worth playing to me so i guess ill have to live with it or sumhow find gud players with 5 bars to play against all the time.

Anyway on a random note what was ure favourite character ending?

Spoilersss.....

Most epic ending had to be pauls lol. The face of law as he gets a fist to the nuts made me lol xD

Second wud have to be ganryu's as soon as he looked at the ceiling i knew what was going to happen xD

Barely ever played tekken before but i've always found king/ armor king kinda silly. I know nothing about his story but why does he have to growl to speak? The AK ending where he's talking to marduk just seemed retarded xD

Also Miguels ending was inda fail too imo.
 
spongebob said:
oh ugh i meant the sweeping low that leads to a rolling combo followed by a kick and tail poke. I think its b/d+3 my tekken notations still very poor atm lol.

Anyway few things i want to say:

I agree with jaxel. The lag often isn't that much worse than SC but its the strict timing in juggles etc that seems to make it look worse. In SCIV since i played Algol there wasnt really much hard inputs or strict timing for anything.

In Tekken im playing Bob atm. His juggles arnt exactly hard but online so many things don't hit.

CH df2 d+2,3, 2, uf+1+2,1 B! dash df+1,b+1+2

Even on a 4 ill hit the d+2,3 that d2 will register but the 3 never will lol. Even if it does its hard to finish of the juggle. Then realising this ill try simplifying it maying doing two jabs instead of d23. Then the uf+1+2 comes out too late lol. I really miss the buffering in SCIV :(
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vertical notations first. so its d/b+3. this move doesn't combo into ROC+1+2. however it does combo into d/f+4, 1+2...etc or d/f+1+2 B! ROC+1+2...etc

as for the Bob juggle you listed. its much more easier to connect the following from CH d/f2 and its only a 3 damage difference. 68 instead of 71 i think:

CH d/f2, b+4,1,B! ff+3, d+2,3, b+1+2

where-as online its very difficult to connect the u/f+1+2,1 bounder. However, I hit with this combo everytime. =D
 
LKV said:
at first it's really tough to tell which grab is which. but, with a bit of time, you can train yourself to tell them apart: go into practice mode -> defensive training, and select both the 1+3 and 2+4 grabs. the computer will randomly choose between them. once you feel more comfortable with 1 and 2 breaks (on both 1P and 2P sides), add a 1+2 break into the mix (these are usually "command throws", meaning you have to enter a more complicated command, like say ff+1+2 or hcb, f+1+2). not every character has command throws, so i'd suggest using Paul as a dummy-- he can take it.
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The only problem with that is there is no command playback in Tekken 6.
 
Impending_Doom66 said:
The only problem with that is there is no command playback in Tekken 6.
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There's no command record, but defensive training lets you set the dummy up to do moves from the movelist randomly. So that method LKV posted is correct, go into defensive training, select a 1+3 and 2+4 throw for 1 and 2 breaks, and practice. If you want you can add in the forward versions as well, since you WILL see them in a match, what with all the backdashing.
 
Can u cannot record player matches? If not kinda sucks. Lol sum1 on my friendslist assumed i played spamming uf4444 w/ kazuya cos that was my last match in ranked xD
 
KowtowRobinson said:
There's no command record, but defensive training lets you set the dummy up to do moves from the movelist randomly. So that method LKV posted is correct, go into defensive training, select a 1+3 and 2+4 throw for 1 and 2 breaks, and practice. If you want you can add in the forward versions as well, since you WILL see them in a match, what with all the backdashing.
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I must be blind, because I never saw that in the training menu. Good to know.
 
spongebob said:
Can u cannot record player matches? If not kinda sucks. Lol sum1 on my friendslist assumed i played spamming uf4444 w/ kazuya cos that was my last match in ranked xD
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Who are you talkin about?
Anyway, i dont see any meaning in playing online till juggles can be executed properly
 
This is slightly off-topic, but does anybody know a good site where I can obtain some juggling combos for Bob?

On topic, Bob is awesome, especially when outfitted in shades, a black parka, and a black hunters pants (resembles a very obese Unibomber with matrix-like karate skills) XD.
 
The-Instigator said:
This is slightly off-topic, but does anybody know a good site where I can obtain some juggling combos for Bob?

On topic, Bob is awesome, especially when outfitted in shades, a black parka, and a black hunters pants (resembles a very obese Unibomber with matrix-like karate skills) XD.
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tekkenzaibatsu.com
 
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